The Dr. Nisha Jackson Show – What Does My Thyroid Do? Part Two

(upbeat music) – Welcome, my friends. It is The Nisha Jackson Show. Thyroid, stress, stress, thyroid, they go together. What does that mean and how bad is having something
wrong with your thyroid? I’m Rusty Humphries. I’m your humble MC. And it appears I am
the worst case scenario for every single one of Nisha
Jackson’s programs lately. Low thyroid. What was the other one? Oh, low testosterone. I’m the poster boy. So if you look like this, you better go see her in the office. – We’re getting you back on track, though. And I’m really excited
for this journey for you. – Okay, I’m excited. – We’re gonna overhaul your whole… Everything. – Okay, good. Now, last time we talked, we talked about thyroid,
and what it meant, and what were the symptoms. And I did a lot of, yeah,
check, sleepy, check. Rage, check. So there’s a lot of that. I think a lot of people can check marks and think that maybe
they have low thyroid. – Low thyroid, just to
recap from last time. Your thyroid is a butterfly-shaped gland that’s in your neck. Right in the middle of your neck here. It is very vulnerable to stress. It’s very vulnerable to
different types of stress. That would include not sleeping
chronically well at night, not eating well, having your
blood sugar go up and down because your diet stinks. It could be that you have
a lot of emotional stress. It could be that you’re
suffering from something else. It could be that your
medication is causing, other medication is causing
stress on your body. There’s a lot of things
that go on with people that over time causes your thyroid to not function in an optimal level. So, some of the symptoms of low thyroid. And I always focus on low thyroid, Rusty, because it’s by far the
most common problem today with the thyroid. Some of the symptoms of low
thyroid would be fatigue. I just want to go over
these really quickly. Fatigue or exhaustion. Especially hitting the
wall in the afternoon. Your hair is really dry and falling out. By the way, hair. I was just thinking today, this is the most incredible
phenomenon for women. You can start out looking in the makeup mirror in the morning and you have no chin hairs. And then, I swear to you, by 5:00 o’clock you
could have a chin hair, one hair that’s like four inches long. – You’ve never had a
chin hair in your life. – I swear to you, of course I have. Like every woman has. But of course we have to get to it. And this is how women help each other. Like, “Hey, there’s a hair there. “You gotta get it. “You gotta get it off your face.” – So you’ve got that. We’ve got the ear hair, which is just, I don’t get it at all. I mean, I’m a big supporter of the Lord. But there’s a couple of bad design flaws that I’d like to have a
little chat with him about. – By the way, your hair
looks really good right now, just sticking up. – That’s really nice. That’s working for me. All right, keep going. I’ll fix the hair. – So anyway. But we spend, what, thousands
of dollars on hair products and we can’t get our hair to grow. But we can get a chin hair to grow in like eight hours, four inches? I mean, it’s the craziest thing ever. How does that even happen? – You should study that and
find out why it does that, and put it on the top of my head. – I know. I’m gonna patent that one
chin hair and figure out. It’s like chin hair on steroids. Okay, anyway. Hair loss is a big
problem with low thyroid. Cold hands, cold feet,
dryness of the skin. Cracky heels, cracking elbows. Body pain, even pain on
the bottom of your feet when you get out of bed in the morning. Cold intolerance, or
even heat intolerance. Excessive sweating, cold hands, cold feet. Racing heart or irregular heart rate. For women, often they have
problems with their periods. Heavy periods, heavy
bleeding, irregular bleeding. Puffy eyes. I didn’t say this on the
last show, but puffy eyes. When I look at people’s face
when they come into the office, I often notice, like, they have puffiness right
here under their eyes. And that can be a real
obvious sign of low thyroid. Anyway. Water retention, bloating, constipation. Depression, irritability, mood swings. These are all related to your thyroid not functioning optimally. Anyway, often I think when you
go into the medical office, it gets met with, oh, you’re
just under a lot of stress. So just try to get your
stress under control and give me a call later. – And is there a pill that
goes along with that, usually? – Well, no, not typically stress. But I think that one of the things that we’re not doing very well
today in the medical office is really understanding how stress can completely ransack
your endocrine system. And thyroid is what we’re focusing on today because stress… And I want to emphasize. Stress is not just running around like you got your head cut off, or too many things on your to-do list that you can’t possibly get to. Trust me, I get that. Or having a stressful environment. It might not be any of those things. Because I see women in
their 60s in my office that are retired and
actually have a great life, but they’re not sleeping at night, they’re completely hormonally imbalanced, and their diet stinks. That is a form of stress. There’s a lot of different forms of stress that people experience that
can affect the thyroid. I thought it would be kind
of cool today to talk about how does stress affect the thyroid. Like what is the connection between stress and making your thyroid go low, and causing all of these symptoms that I showed last time on this diagram. These are the symptoms of low thyroid. It affects your entire body. This is for men and women. – [Rusty] Loss of eyebrow hair? – Oh my gosh, that’s like
a really obvious one. I developed low thyroid after
my second child, 25 years ago. And I’ve had this ever since. I cannot grow hair on this
end of my eyebrow right here. – It just looks like
it’s perfectly quaffed. – Well, I have eyebrow pencil there. I correct it. Or I hide it.
– Hide your hair, okay. – But yeah, if you’ve lost the hair on the outer 1/3 of your eyebrows, that is very likely low thyroid. Unless you’ve shaved it off or something, but I don’t know why you would do that. But anyway. – Whoopi Goldberg does. And like you said, I don’t know why anybody would do that. – Anyway. Low thyroid is a real problem for people. And I think that you’ve got to be able to make the connection. I want people to make
the connection between high stress lifestyle
or poor lifestyle habits and making your thyroid go low. Because when your thyroid is low, who wants to feel like that? Who wants to gain weight, have their hair fall
out, and get depressed? – Is it an easy fix? Or does this take a long
time to fix low thyroid? – I think it’s very easy to fix, but it’s much more advantageous for somebody to fix their thyroid and fix the other things that are surrounding
it that are not right. Including lifestyle changes,
optimizing vitamin levels, and fixing other hormones
that are not optimal. Let’s talk about what is the connection between low thyroid and stress. First of all, stress unfortunately
depresses the signals from the brain to the thyroid. Just remember, everything
starts in the hypothalamus. The signaling hormones
start in the hypothalamus. They send signaling hormones down, releasing hormones down to the pituitary in the middle part of the brain. And then that pituitary
gland sends signals out to the thyroid in the neck for the thyroid to make hormones. It also sends signals out
to the adrenal glands, which are your stress glands that sit on top of your kidneys that help manufacture stress hormones to basically keep you alive. And it also sends signaling
hormones from the pituitary down to the gonads for men, the testes, to make testicular hormones, sex hormones, and also to the ovaries. Isn’t that cool? That’s cool. Then, once the endocrine
system gets the signals, those glands get the
signals from the brain, then it starts making hormones and they circulate out into your body. This is a very simplified
fashion explanation. And then those signaling hormones go back to the brain,
just like a thermostat, and it gives it messages back to the brain to make more or less, depending on how much is being produced. Now that we’ve got that
little simplified picture, I want to say that, with stress, stress actually changes the signals that are coming from the brain. That ain’t good, Rusty. Because when it suppresses the signals coming from the brain, that means less signals
are going from your brain, the pituitary, to the thyroid. And then the thyroid is like, hey, cool, I don’t have to make
as much thyroid hormone because I ain’t getting the signal. If you don’t get the signal then you don’t make
enough thyroid hormone. And then you end up with these problems. That’s a very… That is kind of like, it’s
much more dramatic than that. It’s much more complicated than that. But that’s exactly what’s happening, is it’s messing up the hypothalamic-pituitary access
to the endocrine system. It’s changing the signals,
it’s suppressing them. – Okay. And obviously that is
wide-ranging in the body. It’s not just one little thing. This is almost everything, right? – This is not a theory, Rusty. There have been countless
studies that have shown that high stress or poor lifestyle, which is also stressful for the body, changes the signals from the brain to the endocrine system,
particularly the thyroid. That’s why we have people
walking around with low thyroid that are perfectly healthy people, because they’re too stressed out. – Does zero plus zero equal zero? What if I have bad diet and high stress? Does that cancel each other
out and make it better? – That does not neutralize.
– That does not help? – That’s not neutral. That’s negative-negative. – Just making sure. All right. And I’m guessing a lot of
people have that issue. – Yes, absolutely. It’s becoming an absolute
worldwide epidemic. Just look around at people. It’s becoming more and more of a problem. The next one, which I
think is really profound, and I’m probably gonna step on some people’s toes saying this, but I’m gonna say it anyway. The adrenal stress. Remember the signals go from the brain to the stress glands also, and they go from the brain to the thyroid. And they go from the brain to the ovaries or the testes. The signals are going out
to those three glands. Which means if the signals
are not normal in the brain, it can affect all three glands. The stress glands, the thyroid gland, and also the sex hormone glands. That means that you can have the symptoms that affect your whole body. The thing that’s happening here that I’m most concerned
about with stress is that your body, your thyroid, makes T4. That’s a storage thyroid hormone. Not a big deal, not really that important. Except for the T4 uses your body to convert into the active
thyroid hormone called T3. T3 is really the thyroid
hormone that’s most important because it’s the active thyroid that’s really affecting
at the cellular level. Unfortunately, the conversion from T3… Excuse me, T4 to T3, the active thyroid, there’s certain things that have to happen for that conversion to take place. Stress interferes with the
conversion of T4 to T3. Again, not a theory. Countless studies have shown
that there is an interruption between T4 converting to T3, which is your active thyroid
that you need to feel well. Stress interferes with that conversion. Not with everybody, but with many people. And it happens especially
if stress is prolonged. – Is that one of those things that some doctors just
aren’t gonna agree with you, or they don’t want to
hear that kind of thing? How dare you suggest that hormones are gonna be affected by stress. – Well, when I first started
practicing medicine in 1990, we checked all the thyroid levels. And somewhere along the line, I don’t know when this
actually started happening because I’ve been
practicing for a long time. I don’t know when it started happening. But somewhere along the line, they stopped teaching in med school that medical providers and practitioners, they don’t need to test the whole thing. They just need to look at the TSH because everything should
be based on the TSH, which is just the signal from the brain. It’s not what’s circulating in your body. It’s not the end result. It would just be like
looking at a thermostat… Again, I don’t want to step on any toes, but I’m gonna say it. It would be like looking at
the thermostat on the wall and saying, oh, it’s 75 degrees in here. But it isn’t 75 degrees in here. It’s 68 degrees in here, or
it’s 102 degrees in here. And you’re like, wait, that
doesn’t make any sense. It feels like 102, but
my thermostat says 75. Something is haywire. – Whose toes are you stepping on here? What are you worried about? – All I’m saying is, what
is standard of care today, what we see most prevalent
in the medical offices today, if somebody comes into the
medical office and they say, hey, I researched low thyroid and I have 10 of the 12
symptoms of low thyroid. Now, there’s way more than 12. But if they come into the
medical office and they say, I have all these symptoms of low thyroid, they’re going to most
likely get just a TSH test. And that is, my opinion, my humble opinion, it’s not enough. They need to look at the whole picture so that we know what we’re dealing with. The thermostat example is a
really good example because sometimes how hot it is in the room is not necessarily what
the thermostat is saying. So, something went haywire, which means we have to look at
what’s happening downstream, what is circulating in the body. And this little example I gave of the thyroid with stress does not convert from T4 to T3. Well, unless you’re testing T3, Rusty, you’re not gonna pick it up. How are we gonna know what’s
wrong with the patient if we don’t actually order the test and see what’s going on downstream? – I guess I don’t even understand why that’s something that would
be seen controversial. Why would you not want
to test more things? – I don’t know why we are training medical providers today to
not test the whole picture. Because I believe we would
be identifying problems and getting people healthier. Low thyroid causes high cholesterol. Why in the world would we put people on high cholesterol meds instead of just treating their thyroid? Why, tell me why. There’s no excuse for that. There’s no excuse that we would
put people on a statin drug that has very significant side effects when you can just treat the low thyroid if that’s the problem. But that’s my whole point. – Is that a Big Pharma thing? There’s more money in statin drugs than there are in thyroid drugs? Or is it just easier? What do you think, what’s your hypothesis? You don’t have to say it’s fact. – I don’t have any comment on Big Pharma. But I’m just saying, we’re here, I was put on this Earth to help patients. I wasn’t put on this Earth to figure out what insurances cover and what standard, what all of a sudden
somebody changed the rule that we should never check
circulating thyroid hormones. If somebody has symptoms of
low thyroid, we’re not doing… All I’m saying is we’re
not doing them a service by not checking the whole picture. Because we’re gonna send
them on their merry way if the TSH is normal. And it could be normal because the range for a TSH is so broad that if you’re sitting all the way down at the upper end or the lower end, you’re gonna be told,
most likely, you’re fine. But then you’re gonna walk away with all of these symptoms of low thyroid on that graph I just showed you. And it’s not fair to the patient. They shouldn’t have to live like that. Anyway, I’m really going crazy
right now talking about this. – No, you’re doing great. This is important stuff. And we want to hear the truth. I think that’s what most people who are honest with themselves says. Just tell us the truth. We don’t want to hear a bunch of baloney. We don’t want to hear stuff that’s gonna help sell products for the pharmaceutical
companies or whatever. I’m not saying that they’re all bad. I don’t know. I’m just saying, we just
want to hear the truth. And that’s why we listen to
your show, Dr. Nisha Jackson. Because you tell us this even though it maybe puts you and your
career in jeopardy sometimes. – I don’t put my career in
jeopardy because I think… There’s so much research out there, Rusty, to show that these are important tests. And this is something we
have to take very seriously. Our environment is affecting the thyroid. And our stress is affecting the thyroid. And all I’m saying is, I would much rather do a
service for my patients. And all of the other
practitioners that work for me, I’d much rather them do a
service for their patients and find out what is going on underneath rather than just sugar coating
it with a bunch of drugs. I think that’s a better
way to treat our patients. – I agree. Let me ask you one thing. I think this environmental
thing is a big deal. We don’t have enough time to get into how the environment affects
hormones in this show. But maybe in the next show we do. Am I right? From everything that I’ve read, your hormones are really affected by what’s going on in
the environment today. – Yes, absolutely. We’re gonna do a show on plastics. Like how even drinking
from plastic bottles, and heating up things in
a microwave in plastics, and all of the exposure. Getting into a car that’s hot. And all of the plastics,
our cars are plastic. All of the heat that’s
heating up the plastics is emitting even fumes
that you’re inhaling because you absorb really
well through your lungs. All of these things cause
your hormones to be disrupted. We’re gonna do a whole show on that because that’s fascinating how it completely disrupts
your endocrine system. – Does the big red cup
that you have at parties, does that just get your
hormones all juiced up? (Nisha laughing) – The red Solo cup probably
causes some damage. Yes. So anyway, there’s a number of ways that your stress is
affecting your thyroid. It can affect even your gut. The substances that are
coming from the environment going through your gut can
weaken your immune system, which then can cause thyroid disruption. There’s all sorts of issues
that can happen with stress. Stress can even cause something that is more of a newer syndrome called thyroid resistance. Now your body is resistant to even the thyroid hormones that it’s making. It’s not being active
at the cellular site. There’s so many things that can happen. But the most important take
home message on this show today is that if you’re under a lot of stress… And again, I don’t care
if it’s emotional stress by dealing with negative
people in your life, not sleeping well at night. It could be stress from your diet where your diet is just really toxic and you have too much sugar
and flour in your diet, and your blood sugar is going up and down. It could be that your to-do
list is just too long, and you can’t get through it, and you’re putting so
much pressure on yourself. Maybe it’s just that you
have too much on your plate. You’re going to have an
endocrine problem at some point. You are going to either have low thyroid, a gynecological issue
with your female hormones or your male hormones, your
testosterone is gonna… Something is going to
happen at some point. Nobody can get away with long term stress and not having an endocrine issue. I guess the take home
message, Rusty, on this, is we’ve got to take this stuff seriously. And even if you just make
one tiny change a week, like I’m going to really focus on getting sugar and flour out of my diet and use it more as a treat
rather than a staple. – You keep harping on sugar. Sugar, sugar, sugar. It’s like every couple episodes we’ve gotta talk about sugar. Come on, is sugar really that bad? – I’m never gonna stop talking about sugar because it is absolutely the devil. It’s the big lie. It’s a big lie for people. And I love sugar. I’m a major sugarholic. I come from four
generations of sugarholics. I do, I love sugar. Ask any one of my friends. I love chocolate, I love
dessert, I love sugar. But I can only have a little bit of it. Not only do I feel
terrible after eating it, but I can only have a little bit. And it has to be used, literally, as a once or twice a week treat. It cannot be used as a daily staple. And people are ODing on bread, which is just like eating sugar, and flour, chips, all sorts
of pancakes and Eggos. They’re ODing on this stuff, and they’re giving their kids it too. Sugary drinks, juices,
all of those things. This is a problem for your
entire endocrine system. If you want to be on the fast track to ransacking your endocrine system, and that’s including your stress glands, your thyroid glands,
and your sex hormones, your female and male hormones, just keep eating a lot of sugar and flour because you will be on
the fast track to do it. It’s not good. – You said that you get
sick after eating chocolate. – No, I did not say that. I did not. – You don’t feel as good. – Strike the record. I never said chocolate. I actually believe in chocolate. I have one ounce of dark
chocolate in the afternoon, every single afternoon. I actually think dark
chocolate is good for you. I’m talking about sugary
things, sugar or flour. – How about two great tastes
that taste great together, the chocolate and peanut butter? Now that’s probably okay. Because peanuts are from the ground. – I don’t have a problem
with natural peanut butter. I don’t. – But Reese’s probably not on your list. – Probably not Reese’s. Although they are very good, but no. It should be something
you should take a bite of and then throw the rest of away and stomp it in your garbage. (Rusty laughing) – There you go! And you know what, I’ll bet you the Reese’s
people would agree. Buy one, stomp it out,
buy a whole bunch more. That’s a great selling point. Stomp out the Reese’s. We’ll make more. We’re running short of time here. Anything you wanted to wrap
it up with here, Nisha? – No. I guess the other thing I
want to say about thyroid is really consider talking
to your medical provider, whoever you see, about
just the possibility of looking at all the levels. And then asking for the test results. And then questioning, if
your levels are all the way at the bottom with your
circulating thyroid, not the TSH. Because the TSH would actually be at the high end if it’s low because that means the signal is like, hey lady, or man, make
some more thyroid hormone. So that signal would be high. But the thyroid hormones that
are in your body would be low. We’ll have transcripts of this show. It’s really important that people know. You can also go to page 109 in my book. It’s a whole chapter on thyroid. It’s really important that
people understand more. Get a little bit more
depthness of thyroid, like really what does it do. I have great graphs in here. It will tell you what tests to request. And I guess that’s the thing. Be autonomous about your health and ask for what you want. And step in and be partners
with your medical provider instead of just accepting
that everything is fine. – The name of the book, by the way, and I suggest you get it,
it’s called Brilliant Burnout: How Successful, Driven
Women Can Stay in the Game by Rewiring Their Bodies,
Brains, and Hormones. And this is okay for men too, right? – Yes, absolutely. Actually, most of the chapters in the book are relevant to men and women. It is kind of a chick book, but, you know, I mean, I wrote it that way. But men can learn a lot
about the endocrine system by just reading certain chapters. – Please do us a favor, would you. And that is, subscribe to
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affecting your hormones. And that’s very important too. We’ll catch you next time. Thank you so much for being here. is
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