TEDxSydney – Katherine Samaras – Starve to Survive


I’m Katherine Samaras, your most humble servant, and a messenger from the front line, I bear ill news. As a doctor and a scientist observing disease, I’m treating people in their 20s, 30s and 40s with the diseases I would associate with advanced age. Diabetes, heart disease, cancer, why? I bear news of the culprit, obesity. A relative newcomer A relative newcomer on the human survival time line. Well, this is rather antiquated view of Australia now. The folkloric poetry of the bronzed Aussie: Carefree. Healthy. This is our reality. And this is our tragedy. Obese parents, obese children, obese domestic canines, and who are these people? When we look at this picture do we embrace this as a picture of ourselves, our loved ones, or do we actually judge these people? They’re obese, they’re weak. Do we really understand, do we have compassion and do we have any interest? The Venus of Willendorf, the “it” fertility girl about two and a half thousand years ago but at the moment she’s too frequent a guest at our hospitals. Obesity basically decimates our health, it exhilarates and causes most preventable diseases. It will cause heart disease, it is the major cause of diabetes, it is the most common cause of dialysis dependant kidney failure. And, when we look at this picture, and we think well is she nobody we know, well she is really. She might be our sister, she might be our grandmother, she might be the neighbour. Some woman bore her in pain, people raised her without some difficulty and her family would walk over hot coals for her. We have an investment in her, and her future is our future, she is part of our tribe. When we think about health how do we define it? Do we define it only when we start to lose it? Do we define it in negatives? Do we define it as a cost, the health budget? Is that really a cost or is that really the disease budget? Why do we never think about health as a resource? We are miraculously, and rather democratically, born with good health and then life comes along with its travails and it gradually robs us and it gradually erodes our health. Don’t we see health as a resource, a human resource, a public resource, the nation’s resource? Why can’t we put it on a register as an asset, and then we might protect it a little bit more, like we’re keen on protecting whales, or rainforests, or the reef, or the soils of the Murray Basin? My view is, that health is our most valuable public resource, and we should do our very best to actually protect it. So, when I go to work, it’s a bit like this. I’m actually facing the wave and I’m going into it though, and cresting over us is heart disease, profound heart disease, cardiac transplantation, kind of requiring heart disease at my hospital, and there’s diabetes, preventable kidney failure, preventable blindness, preventable amputation, preventable diabetes, preventable, preventable, preventable. And so it breaks my heart every day when I go to work and I say to myself why can’t we do anything about this? And I think it’s really important to think about why this has developed. Obesity was not wide scale 30 years ago, it should be preventable, so why does it actually occur? Why do we see obesity today? Well, sure, we eat too much, that’s it, we just eat too much, but, you know, here we go, what are we doing about it? Whose fault is it that we’re eating too much? Let’s actually blame the individual, let’s blame the fat person, again, the victim. Come on, that’s a cop out, we’re smarter than that, aren’t’ we, I hope we are. Hasn’t our environment changed? Now this is a hands up, audience participation please. Who caught dinner last night, hands up. Who climbed some mountains or foraged and got some seeds and nuts for the family. Come on, are there no hunter gatherers in the TED demographic? Come on there must be, one please. Who has ploughed a field recently? No, of course, none of us do, not any more. This is the Oktoberfest, by Pieter Bruegel, the Elder, and it captures the annual autumnal feast, we only ever had one and the, to earn the right to sit at that table and enjoy ourselves, freely, we earned the right to. Two seasons of hard work in the fields and at home, but today, for 12 bucks, you can eat all you want, any time you want, really. Isn’t this our problem? It’s a very major part of our problem, and to get to our feasts, we sat in a car park, didn’t we? Well, let’s recognise that we are all caught in this one environment. I have patients who, they live in dormant suburbs, who I’m treating them for obesity and usually a myriad of other health problems. And they live in a community where, it’s a dormant suburb, they’ll have to drive, they might drive for 4 hours, they ‘d actually rather live in Stanmore or Paddington but they can’t afford it. So, they get into their cars and drive for 4 hours a day and when they get to the sort of the being closer to home, rather than being accosted by organic vegetable providores or a market garden stall, which they’d rather prefer, they have instead, the highest density of fast food outlets that are strategically placed at their, their exits. And when they get home, they’d like to go for a walk, but the women perceive it’s actually not safe to go out, so they don’t, the women would rather live in Neutral Bay or Double Bay, but they can’t afford to, and the kids, they don’t go out and play in a park because there aren’t any nearby. And, well, wouldn’t we all rather live on the Northern beaches, but they can’t afford to. And finally, when we look at their communities, there should be planners and local governments and state governments but they don’t give a stuff about the environment that people live in, and they have no obligation to, unless, of course, these people lived in a swinging electorate, but again, they can’t afford to. So, here’s the problem, it’s half the problem, our genes are the other. Our genes describe ,or our genes explain about 60 percent of the difference in body fat between me and everybody else, genetic differences. And it’s our genes that have actually gotten us into trouble. We have survived the travails of biology and history and agricultural calamity, because good survivor genes have been able to hold onto the energy and get us through. So the people with these really strong genes for energy conservation and the seeking of food, have been the ones that have sought the food, gone out over the mountains, walked for 50 kilometres and gotten the food and brought it back for the rest of the tribe. They’re the reason why we have survived and come to this point in time. And yet, these are the people that we beat up, and yet these are the people that are the victims and we seek to discriminate against. We know obesity discriminates, not just because it destroys our health and creates disability. It discriminates in other, much more covert ways. An obese child will be marked lower and thought to be dumber. An obese person will be paid and promoted less for whatever level of qualification. We also know that, on the Jane Austinesque criterion of feminine survival, obese women marry down the social ladder. And so these are really important key factors, so that, in this wonderful history of our evolution and surviving the environment, surviving the famines and the wars and the blockades, the people that have actually gotten us there are the ones now struggling the most when we find ourselves in this environment of excess energy in and very little energy out. So, what are the solutions? Well, part of it is individually, we have to stop eating, we have to cut back on what we’re eating. But, what if we can’t, and what if we won’t? Do we, as a society, have an obligation, to stop people from eating? This is a big question. Do we have that right? Well, when we look at different other areas, we actually already do this. Think about smoking restrictions, think about alcohol restrictions. You can’t just buy any amount of alcohol when you’re a 12 year old and consume it where you like, when you like. Let’s also think about anorexia nervosa. It’s the contra distinction, it’s in contra distinction to obesity. These people are starving themselves to death. Because we believe we are a humane society, we will deprive these people of their civil liberties and we will ram a tube down their nose and force feed them, because they’re gonna die. Why don’t we think about that with the obese person? My personal view is that the individual has to take some responsibility and the first responsibility is to the the right to decline. We have the right to decline fast food, we have the right to decline junk. We have the right to say to our children “no darling you can’t have that” when we’re at the supermarket checkout. We have that right to say no to the 5th drink, no to dessert when it’s the 50th time we’ve eaten out this year and, let’s face it, it’s not our birthday and we haven’t ploughed a field recently. [ audience laughter ] So we have that and that’s an individual right but what about society? Shouldn’t society also play some role in this? Imagine if we had really enlightened people leading us and saying at a government level well all those high fructose, high sugar foods, we know that they are appallingly bad for us we know that they cause food addictions and eating addictions and we know that they create insulin junkies, let’s legislate against them. Hell, we do it for heroin don’t we? But there’s more to it. Do we need a state that acts like some super nanny that watches every little bit of food that we put in into our mouth and says no when we request second breakfasts like some aimless hobbit. It’s a really interesting question to ask and this is now where I’m going to now start talking about why we should starve a little bit, we need to starve to survive. We know when people follow the old faiths, if they follow the, the intermittent fasts that you see in the old religions that they live for a lot longer and that’s when you control the other things like wowserism and alcohol. We know that the Greeks that we see here were the longest livers in the 60s and the 70s and you might say that that’s the Mediterranean diet, you might say that that’s the extra virgin olive oil, yeah maybe sure a bit of hard labour helps as well, but these people would have been following the orthodox calendar and they would have fasted for about 200 days a week, sorry 200 days a year. Imagine, now that’s light eating, bread and cheese, bread and olives, bit of fish and vegetables, lentils if you’re taste and righteousness suits you. So this is what we’re talking about we’re talking about starving a little bit. It’s really about eating light, and I really want to sort of say, is this the scenario we have to accept? Do we have to accept this? Is our economy so dependent on stuffing younger and younger and younger people? Is this what we need? Don’t we have economists, leaders, corporations that can say we don’t have to do it this way? I suppose it’s not a question it’s a challenge a messenger has thrown down a rather elegant challenge, a gauntlet that is a challenge. My actual feeling is that it takes partnerships between these three entities. The individual has to show discretion and restraint when they’re eating. Corporations need to show some inspired thinking about the foods that they’re producing. What if the foods that they produced were an investment in the health of the nation? That they built, not decimated, the health of the nation? And what about government? Couldn’t they show much more leadership? For about ten years the union charter on the rights of the child has been talking about legislation against advertising and marketing to children, why can’t we adopt that? Why can’t we make it compulsory for new communities to be built in a way that people would love to live there, not have to live there? So, I think these are the solutions. So, when I come back to looking at my centenarians, who appear now on command, I look at their eyes and think what have these eyes seen. Two world wars, they have seen a great deal of scarcity, they have seen a great deal of physical hardship, and I wonder wouldn’t we benefit wouldn’t we live longer to a troublesome rather than troubled old age? First thing with that thing we are born with: excellent health. I thank you. [ applause ]

45 thoughts on “TEDxSydney – Katherine Samaras – Starve to Survive

  1. What a great speech, interesting take on – makes perfect sense.

    Although Katherine, bit presumptuous to think that we would all like to live on the Northern Beaches – I certainly wouldn’t!

  2. i bet shes selling a brand of foods.meds from doctors are probably the cause,chemical spaaaaaaaarays from gov.airoplanes,anti phychotics that have given me severe distonia,doc.never warned me i thought the pain was me being lazy,now my condition is ireversable and perminnant agony,they didnt even invent a cure.lookwhat the world gov.all of them in power did to their people;unit371ww2.abortions,curcumsition to baby and kids girls they cut everything and sew up with just enough to pee.

  3. meds make you fat.jobs,stuff in the food they put so you cant stop till you fini whole pack,and the other packs.they even put food craving product in lettice,do your own studys you all have to start working the truth out for yourselves and stop letting everything control you,you all are special so treat yourselves that way.im not saying this lady is wrong,just be careful,every body believe there own thing,i have to watch this now.i may have to eat my words,i love fat people they are kind & happy

  4. and then i see balimics who are nutritionists…minimum wage people who are working so hard,not enough money to by healthy,doing a job like cleaning toilets,heavy lifting,overtime,hate of the job,abuse in all ways,major reasons meds,as the doctors know nothing half the time as they dont try them for themselfs,then when told of a side effect,they say no imposible it would not do that,why would the patient lie, patients would also lie,dr's do kind of interigate,so tell them anything and get out x

  5. i would love you to reply to all i said…i just had an atkins breackfast/dinner…i am basicly a vegetarian,but do eat meat but hate it,the taste and the cruelty leaves me wanting to be sick,but i swallowed it all,i had;scrambled egg=10 small pieces cooking bacon,1 tomatoe,1 small onion,mixed herbs,pepper,(hate salt,enough in bacon)ground garlic,paprika,raw sliced mushrooms,little oil,marg,vinigar.1/2 fried,1/2 microwaved together.yuk…..& no (carb)bread.should do well,never want to eat again.

  6. i still havent watched it yet,so will now,i am not blaming you for anything.i'm just so bitter with medical at the moment.all my meds;olanzapine & risperidone was on but bad restless legs with it,now on quetiapine-which causes everything that you are warning against,i can't understand why there is so many side effects to be given,why are herbs not used anymore they have no or minimal side effects,a theory is punishment and death on low life people casting them out of society by genocide meds.xxx

  7. that was wonderful,maybe its time all world gov.agree together to swap food i mean give the starving pizza ect. and fat nations the same but low calerie with out us knowing the differance coz at the moment low cal is disgusting and doesnt have to be this bad.everything is done so extreme these days,i'm planning suicide,i wish for legal assisted suicide done cheaply,wouldnt that genocide be better that death by torcher what gov. do now,a little of what you fancy is good too.you look pretty ok.xxx

  8. Her argument is,' hey look, our self ownership is violated in all these other areas, so now its ok to violate self ownership when it comes to food too.'

  9. So… starve to survive and show a starved woman talking hahahaha probably dr katherina samaras should not follow her own advice couse she looks anorexic

  10. Kathrine has been my doctor for 20 years and kept me alive with a tremendous medical talent, enrapturing bedside/deskside manner, inspiration, wit and great wisdom/love. She is not influenced by the drug detail pushers (you won't see her desk clotted with med-branded items and she truly cares). I do owe her my life and look forward to every time I'm in her presence and care.

  11. Thank you…very thought provoking. I try to fast intermittently (for my health) but find it hard to do. Your talk has motivated me to try again.

  12. close but missing the point about fasting which also reduces the hunger hormone. Discretion and restraint dont work… look around you at diet companies and gyms… thousands of them .Understand the hunger hormone insulin and you will find the answer in reducing appetite and then add back healthy fats to satiate and reduce hunger/insulin drive.

  13. If we follow these doctors religiously won't they be out of job? They survive because of our faulty way of life..so I wonder what is their purpose?

  14. Isn't this a little contradictory? You seem to imply that it's wrong to ostracize people for being obese, but then say that society as well as the individual should have a say as well, is ostracizing not the standard way society has it's say?

  15. One correction: "Obesity" is not the cause of any disease. It is a symptom of bad eating habits & like a fever, it is a tell-tail sign of something else more nefarious going on.

  16. Government intervention brought us to this unhealthy state… (food pyramid is upside down for example). Advocating more government intervention is absolutely insane and inappropriate.

  17. Educate people that simple carbs turn on insulin production which promotes grelin (the hunger hormone, and that eating higher healthy fats (to satiate), moderate protein, and complex carb veggies and greens only (in other words get rid of processed foods, sugar in all forms, grains including corn, and rice) plus limit your eating window to eight hours a day or less, you will lose weight, promote autophagy, and get your body in balance.
    The old 1950s-2000s nutritional pyramids are way wrong as the latest research shows. Unfortunately, they were based on assumptions, not science.

  18. I eat one meal a day for how many days now, I don't feel hungry at all and I feel good. I don't crave for food anymore. I only eat when I'm hungry.

  19. The sculptured figurine is most likely a depiction of plasma figures from an ancient sky. All the weird figures on rock painting from various cultures around the ancient world look like the phenomenon plasma scientists are very familiar with. Check it out.

  20. It's very hard for people working and being the working poor to get healthy food. When the food supply stops being contaminated, has nourishment in it, water and air are cken, a lot of cancer won't happen. Obesity will decrease with better nutrition for all. The governments absolutely do not care about this as much as they care about bombs…And folks that are working poor or just poor or disabled on disability support cannot afford medicine and food. I'm so hopeful people will stop blaming victims and change reality of nutrition depleted food, bad food availability and better medicine and a cleaner environment will happen. I hope you make waves!!!

  21. The Government should listen to her and regulate the fast food industry and ban fast food advertising as it did with tobacco life is more precious than profits for franchises and corporations.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *