City of Boulder City Council Study Session/Special Meeting 7-23-19


I GET A CALL TO ORDER THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE BOULDER CITY COUNCIL ON JULY TWENTY NINE TWENTY EIGHTEEN.CAN YOU CALL A LITTLE CRACK IN AN EMBRACE. OKAY HEREORCOUNCILMEMBER CARLISLE HERE JONES MARCEL. NAGEL WEAVER FOR YATES THEIR YOUNG PRESENT WE HAVE A QUORUM IF THEY QUEUE. WE HAVE ONE MATTER BEACH BEFORE WE TURNED OUR STUDY SESSION TOPICS AND THAT MATTER IS EMERGENCY RESOLUTION TO DECLARE FIND EMERGENCY AND WHILE EATING THIS OR STAFF. I’M LEADINGOK WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A TOP PRIORITY FOR CITY WHO RECENTLY HAD A STUDY SESSION ABOUT UP HERE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. AND WE ARE MOST HONORED TO BE THE SITE FOR THE FIRST HEARING FIELD HEARING OF THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON CLIMATE FROM THE US CONGRESS AND SO WE THOUGHT. GIVEN THE URGENCY OF THE ISSUE AND THE PRIORITIES FOR CHE IT WE SHOULD HIGHLIGHT THAT AN EMERGENCY RESOLUTION WHICH WAS SENT OUT TO EVERYONE.UM WHAT I WANTED TO POSE ONE WORDING CHANGE WHICH I ENLISTED HIM TO HELP THE WORD SUMMER TO TURN IT OVER TO HIM.KATIE ORIGINAL WORD HAS A LITTLE BIT AWKWARD. AS WELL AS INCREASED AND INTENSIFIED WILDFIRES. FLOODS RISING SEAS DISEASES DROUGHTS AND EXTREME WEATHER BROUGHT ON BY CLIMATE CHANGE DEMONSTRATES THAT THE EARTH IS TO OUGHT TO BE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT. IS AND I THOUGHT WE MIGHT RE READ THAT TO SAY THE DROUGHTS AND EXTREME WEATHER BROUGHT ON BY CLIMATE CHANGE DISRUPTS THE ABILITY OF CIVILIZATION TO SUPPORT HUMAN HEALTH AND WELLBEING. SO SEEMS LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE BROAD AND GENERAL. HELP OUT MORE THAN JUST HUMANS SPECIES HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT’S AFFECTING ALL PLANTS ALL SPECIES LIFE ALL OF LIFE ITS. FUTURE WILL READ WHAT I HAVE BEEN IF WE WANT TO EDIT MORE WE CAN. IN EXTREME WEATHER BROUGHT ON BY CLIMATE CHANGE DISRUPTS THE ABILITY OF CIVILIZATION TO SUPPORT SPECIES HEALTH GENERAL BEING THE CLOSEST PONDER THAT FOR SECOND.THAT IS AT WORK AND IT WAS A LIL BIT ON THE FLY WHICH IS WEIRD TO SAY THAT IT IS TOO HOT. TO BE A SAFE ENVIRONMENTS IT’S GOING TO BE LIVING HERE FOR THE NEXT FEW DECADES. WE HOPE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS I’D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION AND I’D LIKE TO. POINT NOW AND THINK BEEF KIMBALL WHO BROUGHT THIS TO OUR ATTENTION AND INTERESTING TO REPORT THAT. HE SAYS YES SO I’D LIKE TO MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION TWELVE SIXTY ENDORSING THE DECLARATION OF THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY.IN REAFFIRMING BOULDER’S COMMITMENT TO CLIMATE ACTION SECONDED AS AMENDED AND AS AMENDED.OK ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. WEEK WE DID TALK AT LENGTH THE OTHER NIGHT ABOUT THIS. JUST REMIND EVERYONE OF JULY THIRTY FIRST. AUGUST FIRST WILL BE WHEN THE SELECT COMMITTEE IN THE CLIMATE CRISIS WILL BE MEETING I BELIEVE IT’S GOING TO BE FIRST COME FIRST SERVED AT THE UNIVERSITY ON. THE MORNING OF AUGUST FIRST AND I AM.YES AND I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT I PASSED OUT LITTLE ROLLED UP DRAWINGS THAT WERE FROM THE UNIVERSITY CU ART MUSEUM HAD AN EXHIBIT ON CLIMATE CHANGE THAT JUST. CLOSED ON THE TWENTIETH OF THIS MONTH BUT EACH ONE OF THOSE IS DIFFERENT DRAWN BY STUDENTS.THEY WERE PART OF THE EXHIBITS THEMSELVES AND I GOT THINGS THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT BE. SORT OF APPROPRIATE EACH OF YOU SEE AND YOU’VE GOT ONE ON RECYCLING THEY ARE SO. THAT IS COOL I LIKE MY SCOOTER OR A UM ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR THE RESOLUTION. IT IS UNANIMOUS AND WITH THAT GOING AND MOVE INTO OUR STUDY SESSION I Q WITH THAT WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO OUR STUDY SESSION WE HAVE THREE TOPICS TONIGHT.ONE IS TAKING A LOOK AT FIVE G AND UP IN OUR UNDERSTANDING ABOUT IT.BOMB THE SECOND WILL BE ABOUT THE MIDDLE INCOME DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND THEN THE THIRD IS OUR BALLOT A DISCUSSION OF OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION AND RELATED BOUT BATTLE. BALLOT ITEMS SOLD IN THE SPIRIT OF THAT I THINK IT’S A WOULD BE FORGIVEN A YET TO. DO TONIGHT TO HAVE A BRIEF PROCESS DISCUSSION AMONGST US ABOUT HOW LONG WE WANT TO ALLOCATE FOR THIS DISCUSSION. WE HAVE A PANEL OF EXPERTS THAT WE DEFTLY ONE HERE FROM. WHAT’S BEING PROPOSED IS THAT EACH EACH OF THE EXPERTS GETS TEN MINUTES AND THAT WILL WORK TO DISABLE IT LIKE A CONGRESSIONAL HEARING WILL GET USED TO. GET READY FOR OUR FIELD HEARING COMING UP AND HOLD YOU TO THAT TIME ME AND INCLUDING THE FOLKS ON THE PHONE WHEREVER YOU ARE. AND THEN ALLOCATE OUR SCH OURSELVES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END WE KNOW THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT THIS TOPIC FOR. SEVERAL DAYS ON WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT WE DON’T HAVE A PENDING DECISION ON THIS PER SE.I GUESS I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU QUICKLY WHAT DID WE REALLY WANT TO SPEND A HUNDRED EIGHTY MINUTES DOES THAT FEEL RIGHT.WE WANT TO GIVE ME THE PARAMETERS AND WE CAN MANAGE TODAY.CAN WE JUST LISTEN TO EXPERTS ASK OUR QUESTIONS AND THEN CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE THOUGHT OF HOW OF WHAT WE’D LIKE TO DO HOP.WE WILL ASK QUESTIONS UNTIL MIDNIGHT THIS WE ARE QUITE CAPABLE OF SO IT’S MORE ABOUT HOW MUCH WE WANT TO SPEND ON THIS TOPIC TO ME.I’M SO ITS TOP TEN MINUTES BEFORE THE END IF WE WANT IN COLLECTIVE THOUGHT.BUT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME IN AND TALK ABOUT THIS TOPIC.THIS IS AN UP AND COMING EMERGING TOPIC WE DON’T HAVE A PENDING DECISION ABOUT A PURSE A CELL.IT’S HARD TO MANAGE YOU GUYS WHEN I DON’T KNOW. HOW WE WANT TO SPEND. ONE OF THE ONE OTHER SUGGESTION I HAVE IS THAT WE. THINK WE ALL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE PICK OUR TOP PRIORITY QUESTION WE GO AROUND EVERYBODY JUST ASK A QUESTION AND WITH MORE ON AGAIN. AND WE RUN OUT OF TIME AND THEN HAVE TO SEND IN THE REST OF OUR QUESTION TO SELL HERE AND LISA. SITTING FOR DAYS AND I MET I’D. LIKE YOU SEE SINCE WE DON’T HAVE A PENDING ITEM ON THIS ARE NO ORDINANCES PREPPING OR IN PREPARATION WERE LEARNING ABOUT A TOPIC FOR BACKGROUND INFORMATION. AND GIVEN THAT WE HAVE OTHER WEIGHTY TOPICS ON THE AGENDA PARTICULARLY. BOTH OF THEM ARE IMPORTANT BUT THE FINANCIAL ONE IS GOING TO COME LAST I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD BE FRESH FOR THAT SO I’D ADVOCATE FOR US. GETTING CLOSER TO OUR SAFE WEEK AND I’M CERTAINLY WILLING TO TO PARTICIPATE IN KEEPING QUESTIONS TO A MINIMUM. BUT THE MEMOS REALLY GOOD AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME NEXT STEPS WE COULD DO SO I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE MAYBE FIFTEEN MINUTES OR. SOMETIMES SO THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT SOME STEPS THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER THE CITY AND I WOULD JUST DO WHAT LISA SAID AND ALSO IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS.I KNOW SOME OF THEM THAT I HAVE HAVE FOLLOW UPS. SO BUT IT’S SAME QUESTION BUT TO BE WHAT THE ANSWER IS SO I DON’T WANT TO JUST LEAVE SOMETHING HANGING IF IT WILL CLARIFY WHAT IS THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.I HOPE THE ANSWER IS CLEAR AND I DON’T MEAN TO HAVE A TEN MINUTE QUESTION. AND LINKS ON THIS JOURNEY OF OURSELVES BECAUSE WE’RE NOT LIMITING OUR EXPERTS BE ON THEIR TEN MINUTES WE’RE LIMITING OURSELVES BLESSED US ON THIS LARGE.OK SO TOO ARE SWIMMING LIKE OK AND WITH FIFTEEN MINUTES AT THE END JARS FOR FIFTEEN MINS.YES I MEAN I THINK I THINK THE MEMO WAS REALLY GOOD AND I APPRECIATE. AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME REAL AND CONCRETE NEXT STEPS WE COULD DO THAT DOESN’T BUY THAT DON’T VIOLATE STATE OR FEDERAL LAW LEAST. SIXTY MINUTES AND BY THE MEMO YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT GRANT WILSON’S PIECE FEELS THAT THE USE AND OR OTHER PART TWO THAT WERE HELPFUL.OK SO WITH THAT LET’S JUMP IN I GUESS ONE OTHER THING OF IT I WOULD JUST OFFER IS UM. I WAS TOLD THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ARE TAKING UP AND THAT. MAY BE WATCHING US DELIBERATE TONIGHT AND I INVITE US TO SHOW HOW LOW THE BODY WITH DIVERSE OPINIONS CAN TACKLE A COMPLEX TOPIC IN A VERY CIVIL AND DISCIPLINED WAY.I’M JUST GOING TO FALL THAT OUT THERE IS AN ASPIRATION MAY FIND WE DON’T DISAGREE AND IT’S FINE IF YOU DON’T AGREE BUT LET’S. MAKE SURE WE ALL WALK OUT HERE KNOWING MORE THAN WE CAME IN PHYSICAL WITHOUT A TURNOVER CHEF. TEEN COUNCIL AND JULIE RICHMOND THE CITY’S CHIEF INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY OFFICER TO SERVE AS FACILITATOR FOR THE SESSION TONIGHT. I’M JUST KIND OF WANTED TO TALK YOU THROUGH THE PURPOSE OF THE SESSION THE GOALS. I WILL BRIEFLY INTRODUCE OUR PANELISTS ALTHOUGH ALL SKIP DETAILED BIOS THEM BECAUSE YOU HAVE THOSE NEAR PACKING MATERIALS. ON AN AS A REMINDER WE HAVE THREE PANELISTS WERE ATTENDING VIA CONFERENCE CALL AND SAY OH THIS ROOM IS NOT SET UP FOR THAT.IT’S NOT A GOOD ACOUSTICS FOR THE PARTICIPANTS ON THE PHONE AND THERE’S A BIT OF A DELAY. AND SO AS YOU’RE ASKING QUESTIONS IF YOU CAN GIVE EXTRA TIME AND I’M SECRETLY CLEARLY I THINK THAT WILL HELP. AND THEN FOR PARTICIPANTS ON THE PHONE ALL CHEW YOU UP BUT YOUR SLIDES AND WHEN IT’S YOUR TURN IF YOU COMPRESS STAR SIX TON YOURSELF WILL GO FROM THERE. AND WHAT’S THE TIME KEEPING POLITICAL.OH YEAH SO THEN I’M I’M MASTER TIME KEEPER. ON MY PHONE AND CALL AND SCHEDULE AN ALARM FOR TEN MINUTES AND THE WARNING FIVE MINUTES AND THEN WILL ASK YOU TO STOP TALKING I’M AT THE END OF THAT TEN MINUTES.OK AND SO THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT’S SESSION TO IMPRESS HIM AND BUTTONS.THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT’S SESSION WAS REALLY TO SET SOME BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF HOW FIVE G WORKS. FOCUSING ON FIVE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS HOW DOES THE TECHNOLOGY WORK WHAT WILL BE USED FOR WHAT IS THE CURRENT LEGAL AND REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THE CITY MUST FOLLOW. WHAT HAS THE CITY DONE ABOUT THIS FROM A CODE AND PLANNING STANDPOINT. WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE HEALTH IMPACTS AND THEN AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMUNITY WE’VE ADDED TWO ADDITIONAL COUNTS COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND TO PROVIDE OPINIONS ON THESE TOPICS AS WELL.TML GOING TO CANCEL QUESTION SO. WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE CAC AND MONDAY IS WAITING FOR ALL THE PANELISTS TO CONCLUDE AND THEN GOING INTO QUESTIONS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT THERE. AND SO JUST BRIEFLY INTRODUCING OUR EXPERTS THAT WE HAVE AT STAFFORD EVER SUFFERED FROM THAT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW. DEPARTMENT AND WORKS AND HE OVERSEES A LOT OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY ENFORCEMENT TIME AND WORKS TO HELP. MANAGE PERMITTING FOR CELL SITES TO JULIA CONTAGIOUS ENERGY SUMMIT AS THEY SPEAK ARE HAPPY TO DO THAT.OK SO LET’S START OFF WITH OUR FIRST PANELIST KEVIN GIFFORD IS AT FACULTY AT CU IN THE TECHNOLOGY CYBER SECURITY AND POLICY AREA. HAS A FOCUS ON WIRELESS ENGINEERING AND OUT WITH THE ALTERNATE OVER TO YOU. THANK YOU LEO I WAS HOPING THAT WE SHOPPED A BIT BIGGER BUT YOU GUYS WILL STILL GET. THE JIST YEAR I HAVE FIVE FLIES SOMEONE TALK THROUGH THIS HAMLET IN TO TALK ABOUT. FIVE SHE IS AND COMPARE IT TO FOUR G AND LTE WHICH YOU ARE HAVE SEEN FOR THE PAST TWENTY YEARS.THIS IS ONLY TIME WHEN HE USES LASER POINTER CAN BE VERY CAREFUL. SO THIS IS THE ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM YOU GUYS AND STARTED THIS IS NOT SHOWING UP IS BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE BUT REALLY WHAT I WANT TO SHOW IS THAT. THIS ERA’S WERE VISIBLE LIGHT IS OKAY AND WERE BATHED IN ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION. OUR ENTIRE LIVESOK WE HAVE.AM RADIO WE’VE GOT FM RADIO AND TV THIS IS JUST A FREAKIN STUDENTS OUT. IN PARTICULAR OF THE SHADED AREA IS WHERE ALL THIS ALL YOUR COMMUNICATION SAYS OK. THAT INCLUDE HER THREE G IN YOUR FOUR G LTE PHONES THEY’RE ALL IN THIS PARTICULAR FREQUENCY SPECTRUM. BY G IS IN THE SAME FREQUENCY SPECTRUM FROM ONE TO GET A HEARSE AND THEN THERE’S A MILLIMETER WAY WHICH IS TWENTY FOUR TO SIX TO GET HURTS. SO THE TAKE HOME LESSON HERE IS THAT FIVE G IS GOING TO BE IN THE SAME SPECTRUM. FOR G AND LTE S AND THAT’S CALLED THE SUB SIX OF HER SPECTRUM ARE. CALM AND SO IT HAS THE SAME TRANSMIT POWER LEVELS AS WIFI YOU WOULD EXPECT FOR FIVE G IN THE SUB SIX GIG FOR SPECTRUM TO HAVE THE SAME WITH SAY. BOB HARMS AS WIFI OR LTE OVER THE PAST THIRTY YEARS.THAT’S JUST THE PERFECT ANALOGY TO MAKE THIS IN THE SAME SPECTRUM MESS UP THE SAME POWER LEVELS SO YOU HAVE A BASIS FOR MOE BANDY AND MIB AND FIVE G. HIGH BAND FIVE G IS IN THE TWENTY FOUR TO SIXTY GIG HEARSE AND THIS IS CALLED MILLIMETER WAVE TECHNOLOGY.OKAY AND I’M GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT MILLIMETER WAVE SO. I JUST WANT TO RE EMPHASIZE THAT. FOR THE LOW BAND IN THE MID DAY AND TAKE ON THE SINISTER SO MORE POWER LEVELS AND YOU WOULD GENERALLY EXPECT THE SAME HEALTH EFFECTS. AS WIFI AND LT THAT YOU’VE SEEN FOR THE PAST THIRTY YEARS.THIS SAME ANALOGY BROAD STATEMENT. THE MILLIMETER WAVE BAND. HONESTLY IS LESS WELL STUDIED THERE HAVE BEEN AMASSED THE SUBJECT OF TONIGHT’S DEBATE.MOM THERE’S REALLY NO CONSENSUS TO DETRIMENTAL HEALTH EFFECTS BUT CERTAINLY MORE STUDIES WOULD BE WELCOME SOLD US THE HIGH LEVEL TAKEAWAY FROM THIS PARTICULAR GRAPH CAN HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.SO I JUST WANT TALK A MINUTE I HAFTA FORK WHICH LIES ON ROUTE FIVE G IS GOING TO GIVE EVERYBODY.K SO AGAIN SOME WIFI AND OR SHOULDER TUNIC ISSUES RIGHT NOW ARE DOWN IN THIS FOUR GB AND ONE K. AND THE INITIAL FIVE G BO BE IN THE SAME BAND EXACT SAME BAND. THE HIGH BEAR IS ABOVE SIX CAME TO HER STILL TWENTY FOUR TWENTY EIGHT SO THAT THIS IS THE MILLIMETER WAVE BAND SO THAT IS THE BAND WHERE YOU CAN GET A LOT MORE BANDWIDTH.OK SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW MILLIMETER WAVE TECHNOLOGY IS JUST ONE PART OF WHAT FUTURE FIVE G NETWORK FOR TUESDAY. IT WILL USE THE LOW BEAR WHICH IS BELOW ONE GET HURTS AND THE SUB SIX CAN. GET HER SPAN WHICH I JUST TALKED ABOUT WHERE WIFI AND LT R L T E R RIGHT NOW SAME BAN SO. THE THING ABOUT MILLIMETER WAVE AT THE HIVE AND WAIT IS THAT YOU CAN HAVE VERY VERY HIGH BAND LIST YOU CAN REALLY PUMP THROUGH A BUNCH OF DATA. AND THE OTHER THING IS DOWN IN THESE MOMENTS HERE WHERE LTE FOUR G AND WIFI ARE RIGHT NOW IS THEY ARE MUCH HEAVILY. MUCH MORE HEAVILY CONGESTED TO BE TV SIGNALS CAN BE OTHER FOUR G NETWORKS.SO THE INDUSTRY WANTS TO MOVE TO THE HIVE AND JUST GET MORE BANDWIDTH DOWNLOAD HD VIDEO IN FIVE SECONDS.THAT’S WHAT THEY WANT TO GO UP TO THE TOP AS AN EXAMPLE TO THE HIGHWAY HIGHWAY PICS NEXT LIFE IS. SO UM YOU KNOW THE BIG THING HERE IS MILLIMETER WAVE. FROM TWENTY FOUR TO ONE HUNDRED HERTZ IS LIKE AN INCREASE TO THE DEMAND WITH BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS IS IT DESTROYS GOING UP BY OVER A SMALL DENSELY POPULATED AREAS.WHEN YOU THINK OF A STANDARD CELL TOWER NOW RIGHT YOU SEE THOSE BIG OL’ BEHEMOTHS CELL TOWERS. THOSE COVER ON THE ORDER OF SEVERAL MILES A DIAMETER OF FOUR TO FIVE MILES SOLDIER COVERING A BIG AREA.MILLIMETER WAVE ARE GOING TO COVER A MUCH SMALLER AREAS ON THE ORDER OF ONE HUNDRED METERS. SO THAT IS SO FIVE G WILL BE A KEY PART TO ROLL OUT IN CITIES WHERE YOU GOT DENSE URBAN AREAS.OK THAT IS GOING TO BE WHERE FIVE G AND THE MILLIMETER WAVE WILL INITIALLY BE ROLLED OUT IN SUBURBIA AND IN THE RURAL PARK. WILL ROLL OUT FIVE G BUT THEY WILL JUST USE THE FREQUENCIES THAT ARE USING NOW FILLED.THERE’S GOING TO BE NO DIFFERENCES COMMIT THE SAME FREQUENCIES SO THEY ACTUALLY WHAT THEY SAY YOU KNOW FIVE G. GO ONE WAY TO THINK ABOUT FIVE G YOU GUYS ARE JUST AS AN ANALOGY. TO THINK ABOUT THE STADIUM PROBLEM WHERE YOU GOT EVERYBODY A CU STADIUM RIGHT AND YOU KNOW EVERYBODY YOU. WANT TO DO IS TO NOT WATCH THE GAME THERE TAKING PICTURES AND UPLOADING PICTURES FOR EVERYBODY AT THE FAMILY TO SEE SO WHEN YOU HAVE THESE HIGH DENSITY SPORTS EVENTS.YOU’VE GOT A BIG IMPACT ON THE NETWORK. AND FIVE G IS REALLY MEANT THIS ALL THE PAPER PROBLEM THE STADIUM PROBLEM OR WHEN YOU’RE IN DENSE URBAN CANYONS SUCH AS DOWNTOWN DENVER DOWNTOWN NEW YORK CITY. OR POTENTIALLY IN A DENSE URBAN AREA HERE IN BOULDER BUT IN REALITY IT’S REALLY JUST FOR VERY CONCENTRATED WITH VERY HIGH BANDWIDTH BANDWIDTH NEEDS.OK THE NEXT LIGHT PLACE.SO JUST A COUPLE MORE SLIDES SO I JUST WANNA SAY A MINUTE ABOUT WHAT FIVE G IN GENERAL WILL GIVE YOU GUYS. UM SO YOU KNOW IT’S AN INCREASE FROM THE LTE FOUR G. THIS COULD HAVE DECREASED OF LATE AND SEE WHAT’S IMPORTANT HERE IS. THE WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS IS WHAT FIVE G WITH LEGACIES AS LOW AS ONE MILLISECOND BUT DOES THAT MEAN YOU COULD DO REMOTE SURGERY WHO SEES THAT LOW.OK HE CAN’T DO THAT WITH THREE G OR LTE RIGHT NOW YOU CAN HAVE MANY MORE CONNECTIONS SO REAL YOU CAN ENABLE I OT FOR YOUR CITY. OR FOR YOUR SCHOOLS YOU CAN USE I OT FOR TRANSPORTATION.UM YOU KNOW A COUPLE OTHER THINGS JUST TO FINISH THIS UP.THERE REALLY THAT YOU CAN HAVE MUCH BETTER SPECTRUM OFFENSIVE EFFICIENCY.FIVE G IS MUCH MORE EFFICIENT AND FOUR G OR LTE SO IT’S MORE EFFICIENT FROM A BALANCED PERSPECTIVE AND IT’S ALSO MORE EFFICIENT FROM AN ENERGY PERSPECTIVE.SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE YOU MIGHT CALL FIVE G A GREENER TECHNOLOGY THE LTTE. AND LASTLY PLEASE CHILLY AND SO JUST A QUICK HIGH LEVEL ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF FIVE G. YOU CAN GET SCREAMIN DATA RATES YOU REALLY THE WAY TO THINK ABOUT IS YOU COULD DOWNLOAD HD MOVIE IN A FEW SECONDS PROBABLY TEN DISADVANTAGES AS A VERY SHORT RANGE APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED METERS.SO A CITY BLOCK SO THAT MEANS GOING TO HAVE A BUNCH MORE ANTENNAS. SO YOU CAN HAVE A BUNCH OF MINI NEW SMART APPLICATIONS AND I OT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE MARKET APPLICATIONS TO FIVE G IS GOING TO ENABLE. ONE DISADVANTAGE OR ONE CONCERN IS WHAT IS THE AVAILABILITY OF THE LOW BAND AND BAND SPECTRUM THE SPECTRUM FROM ONE TO SIX KICKER HURTS. SOME OF US ALREADY USE SOME OF WHAT’S ALREADY ALLOCATED IS. A COMMERCIAL ENTITIES OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE THE SPECTRUM SUCH THAT MORE BOB AND SERVICES COULD RESIDE IN THE SUB SIX BAN. AN ADVANTAGE OR FIVE G IS FROM YOU DON’T HAVE THOSE GOD AWFUL CELL TOWERS YOU CAN MOUNT THESE VERY SMALL DEVICES WITH SMALL ANTENNAS REALLY ON. YOUR STREET LIGHTS STREET LIGHTS ARE ALL NOW POLLS AND THEY WILL BE MUCH MORE WOULD SAY FROM THE VISUAL PERSPECTIVE LESS OBVIOUS DISADVANTAGE IS YOU SHOULDN’T NEED ONE EVERY HUNDRED METERS.OK SO YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF UM THE COVER WHAT’S A DOWNTOWN BOULDER AS AN EXAMPLE. BUT TEBOW BE YOU KNOW HUGE CELL TOWERS THEY WILL JUST BE A FIXED OR STREETLIGHTS AND OR SHOW US YOUR GLAM POST. SO YOU KNOW AUGUST IN WITH OUR KIND OF A GENERAL CHART SHOWS DON’T HURT THE BOTTOM YOU KNOW YOU’RE REALLY LOOKING AT A TENFOLD INCREASE IN DATA RATE. PAID US A BIG THING THAT ARE LOOKING AT YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE BIOTECH THE CAPABILITY BUILT IN THE FIVE G SO YOU CAN HOW. YOU KNOW WHETHER STREET LIGHT SENSORS OR WEATHER SENSORS OR RIVER FLOW SENSORS THE FOG GOING TO BE PART OF THE FIVE G ARCHITECTURE. SO HIGH LEVEL GO TO THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF FIVE G. I THINK THE BIG TAKE HOME LESSON I WOULD SAY IS REMEMBER FIVE G CAN BE ROLLED OUT IN THREE DIFFERENT BANDS. MO BAN WHICH IS BELOW ONE GET HURTS MID BAND WHICH IS ONE OF SIX GOOD HURTS AND HIGH THAN. LOW IN THE MID THERE ARE EXACTLY EXACTLY LIKE FOUR G LTE AND WIFI TODAY THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE SAME POWER LEVELS. SO THE BIG CONCERN OVER FIVE G IF THERE’S A CONCERN IS WHAT MIGHT BE THE HEALTH EFFECTS OF RADIATING OUT THE MILLIMETER WAVE FREQUENCIES.THANK YOU SO MUCH HURRY SO MOVING INTO WHAT WILL IT BE USED FOR ANDREW.MAYBE YOU CAN PRONOUNCE HER OWN LAST NAME SO I DON’T WRECK IT AND UPLOADING IT TO SYMPATHY THANK YOU. THE KEY IS THE DIVISION CHIEF AT THE INSTITUTE FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS SERVICES GAS AT THE NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS INFORMATION ADMINISTRATION JUST APPEAR AT THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE. IN BOULDER SO WITH APPLE TURNOVER TO YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.SO WHY THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IT’S REALLY IMPORTANT TALK ABOUT IS LIKE ANY OTHER TECHNOLOGY THAT AND THEY USE THE TECHNOLOGIES BEING DRIVEN BY THE MONEY. AND SO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED MY PARTICIPATE IN THE STANDARDS DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION RESPONSIBLE FOR CREATING THE FIVE STANDARDS THE SOFA HE WOULD MIND GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE. WIN WIN FOR GP WHICH IS THE STANDARD DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION WAS CONSIDERING WHAT FIVE HE WAS GOING TO BE. A NEED TO LOOK AT WATER ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHT AND SO CERTAINLY YOU KNOW WE HAVE COMMERCE MOBILE NETWORK OPERATORS. ACROSS THE GLOBE THAT DEPLOY LTE RIGHT IN WHITE ASH TRAYS TO GET LARGE COVERAGE YOU KNOW REALLY GOOD POPULATION COVERAGE. OF LTE AND SO THEY KNOW RIGHT THAT YOU KNOW WE HAVE OUR TIER ONE SERVICE PROVIDERS AS AN EXAMPLE IN THE UNITED STATES ARE DEPLOYED. FORTY THOUSAND PLUS CELL SITES RIGHT FOR LTE IN THE UNITED STATES. RIGHT AT THE COST OF FORTY PLUS BILLION DOLLARS. AS YOU HEARD KEVIN SAY RIGHT WITH FIVE G. FIVE G AT THE MILLIMETER WAVE OR SO ABOVE SIX TO GET HERS IS GOING TO REQUIRE QUITE A BIT MORE DENSITY IN CELL SITES. BECAUSE OF ASPECT BECAUSE ITS PROPAGATION. THAT WE SEE AN LTE BELOW SIX FIGURES AND SO WHEN THEY WERE CONSIDERING THAT THEY HAD TO LOOK AT OK WATER ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WHAT CAN WE LEVERAGE. OUR EXISTING INVESTMENT IN LTE TO TRY TO ROLL OUT FIVE G’S QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IN RIGHT TRY TO GET OUT THERE. AND SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS OF HOW YOU COULD PUT TOGETHER THREE FUNDAMENTAL PIECES OF COURSE MOBILE NETWORK.I HAVE WHAT’S CALLED CORE NETWORK. NEXT SLIDE.REALLY WHAT THEY CONSIDERED IS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT KIND OF OPTIONS WHEN YOU PUT THESE TOGETHER.THESE WERE THE BEGINNING CASE RIGHT WHICH IS LTE ON THAT ON THE SIDE SO EE PCS EVOLVED PACKET CORE LT IS YOU KNOW AND THUS THE SMART DEVICE. ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS WHAT YOU’D CONSIDER A PURE FIVE G NETWORK IT HAS A NEXT GENERATION CORE NETWORK HAS WHAT’S CALLED AN R. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE JARGON BEEN INCLUDED IN HERE BECAUSE. THEY ARE MY PROPELLER HAT WORLD A LOT OF TIMES YOU DON’T ACTUALLY HEAR PEOPLE CALL THIS FIVE CD CALLED NEW RADIO OR IN OUR. SUITE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF EXPOSURE TO SOME OF THIS DISTURBING CASE YOU COME ACROSS A LAYER. OR SO THE RIGHT SIDE IS PURE FIVE G. SO THAT WAS REALLY YOU KNOW WHERE THEY WANT TO GO BUT THE QUESTION IS DO THEY NEED TO STOP SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY IF YOU WOULD MIND GOING SLIDE.SO REALLY THIS OPTION THREE HERE WAS WAS WITH THE MOST FAVOURED OPTION AMONGST THE COMMERCE MOBILE NETWORK OPERATORS WHEN THREE GP WAS CONSIDERING WHAT’S THE FIRST SET OF STANDARDS WE ACTUALLY DEVELOP.THIS IS WHAT’S CALLED NON STAND ALONE AND THE REASON WHY AS YOU CAN SEE. IT’S LEVERAGING EXISTING INVESTMENT IN LTE SO THERE’S A PRESUMPTION THAT I MIGHT HAVE AN LTE EVOLVED PACKET CORE THE CORPS NETWORK.IT’S BASICALLY GOING TO SERVICE. NEW RADIO OR FIVE G CELL TOWERS. AND SO THIS ALLOWS OUR EXISTING LTE OPERATORS TO DEPLOY A FIVE G AND THEY’RE GOING TO CALL IF I G SITTING ON TOP OF AN EXISTING LTE INVESTMENT. SO THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT ACTUALLY TAKES TO GET FROM LT TO FIVE G FIVE G NETWORKS ARE ALREADY BEING DEPLOYED WHEN I WAS IN. ITALY FOR MEETINGS IN DECEMBER THEY ANNOUNCED THE FIRST FIVE G CITY IN THE WORLD RIGHT.FIVE G COVERING THAT ENTIRE CITY OF SUFFERING TO ACTUALLY WAS A STREET OR SOMEWHERE ELSE RIGHT SO CC THESE TYPES OF DEPLOYMENTS BECAUSE YOU CAN LEVERAGE THINGS LIKE LT IN THAT EXISTING INVESTMENT. THE REASON WHY I’M SHOWING YOU THIS IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU CONSIDER THEN YOU KNOW WHAT FIVE G IS BEING USED FOR.IT’S REALLY FOR COMMERCIAL MOBILE NETWORK OPERATORS TO GO AFTER BUSINESS FOR A CAUSE THAT THEY DIDN’T SUCCESSFULLY PENETRATED AND PENETRATE TO THEM. TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY WANTED TO WITH LTE. AND SO I GUESS TO SOME OF THOSE BENEFITS THE CABIN WAS TALKING ABOUT ABOUT LOWER LATENCY GREATER BANDWIDTH AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND I’LL GET TO SOME OF THE SPECIFIC USE CASES AND NEXT I PLACE SO WHAT IS FUNNY REALLY.THIS WAS THE SLIDE THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY THE ITU YOU. TO CREATE THE BEGINNINGS OF WHAT WE CALL I MT TWENTY TWENTY PROCESS WHICH IS BASICALLY WHERE. CANDIDATE TECHNOLOGIES ARE BEING SUBMITTED TO THE ICU FOR CONSIDERATION IS BEING LABELED AS FIVE G PA AND THESE WERE THE USE CASES THAT WERE DEVELOPED TO WRITE AND THAT BASICALLY THEY INTENDED.IF IG SOLUTIONS TO TRY TO MEET THESE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO DO THESE TYPES OF THINGS RIGHT AND SO MANY THINGS THE YEAR KEVIN TALK ABOUT RIGHT.AUGMENTED REALITY INDUSTRIAL AUTOMATION ALL USE THAT ONE IS A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE SO YOU KNOW WHAT I DON’T THINK YOU’RE REALLY GOING TO SEE IN THE MILLIMETER WAVE FANS. ARE NOT GOING TO SEE. THE KIND OF COVERAGE TO LAND COVERAGE WITH FIVE G ABOVE SIX FIGURES THAT YOU SEE WITH LTE SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE TOO EXPENSIVE. RIGHT IF YOU’RE DEPLOYING TWO HUNDRED SITES FOR FIVE G ABOVE SIX FIGURES FOR EVERYONE LTE SITE BELOW SIX YEARS. AND IT COST FIFTY BILLION DOLLARS TO ROLL OUT LTE NOBODY’S GOING TO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY DEPLOYING FIVE OF SIX TO GET HER TO CROSS THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.SO WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO DO IS THEY’RE GOING TO GO AFTER REALLY TARGETED BUSINESS PARTICLES EITHER DIDN’T SERVE IN AREAS YOU KNOW. DOWNTOWN YORK CITY BOWL OR WHATEVER WHERE THEY THINK THEY’RE GOING TO GET A LOT OF WHAT THEY CALL MOBILE BROADBAND USERS ARE IN BB. OR THEY MIGHT GO AFTER STUFF LIKE THAT INDUSTRIAL AUTOMATION WHERE THEY CAN WHERE THEY DO. INDUSTRIAL I OT WHERE THEY BASICALLY DEPLOY FIVE G IN A FACTORY SPECIFICALLY TO ALLOW FOR. AUTOMATION OF WHATEVER THAT INDUSTRIOUS. AND SO REALLY TARGETED DEPLOYMENTS GOING AFTER VERY SPECIFIC SET OF OF OF MARKETS IS WHICH IS REALLY WHAT’S DRIVING THIS AND AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER THEY’RE SMART CITIES.MOM IS ONE OF THOSE AS WELL BECAUSE IT MAKES THE PRESUMPTION THAT. YOU KNOW I’M TALKING ABOUT A CITY. YOU KNOW I CAN RECOUP MY INVESTMENT INTO PLAYING YOU KNOW THAT TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE THERE’S AT LEAST ENOUGH POPULATION THEIR SAUCE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MOBILE BROADBAND. NUMBER OF THE OTHER TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU SEE UP THERE THAT YOU COULD DEPLOY IN ADDITION TO SMART CITY.NEXT I PLEASE AND THANK YOU SO WERE THINGS THAT SO THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THREE GP JOB SECURITY SLIDE. YOU KNOW WE CAN SEE FIVE G. AND TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IN THE STANDARDS YOU ACTUALLY SEE THE TECHNOLOGY SHOP AND PRODUCTS EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY FOUR MONTHS AFTER THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES ARE COMPLETED. BY THE WAY THREE GP WENT ABOUT SANITIZING FIVE G IS THEY DID IN TWO RELEASES RELEASES FIFTEEN AND SIXTEEN. SO WHAT YOU SEE UP THERE. AS YOU SEE THAT THERE WAS AN EARLY DROP FOR RELEASE FIFTEEN FOR THAT NON STANDALONE MODEL BUT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. IT WAS COMPLETED IN THE FIRST HALF OF TWENTY EIGHTEEN SNAPPY THINK ABOUT THAT WE HAD A FIRST SET OF COMPLETE DINNERS FOR FIVE G IN THE FIRST HALF TWENTY TEAM.SO YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY SEEING REAL DEPLOYMENT OF FIVE G TODAY. RIGHT THAT’S ABSENT ITS REALISTIC RIGHT SO YOU CAN SEE THESE THESE PRODUCTS SHOW UP IN A LESS THAN EIGHTEEN MONTHS.IF THERE’S ENOUGH MONEY TO BE MADE AND CERTAINLY THAT’S WHAT WE’RE SEEING RIGHT NOW PEOPLE THINK THERE’S ENOUGH MONEY TO BE MADE IN THE DEPLOYMENT OF FIVE G. TO ACCELERATE THE DEPLOYMENT SCHEDULE FASTER THAN THAT IF A GIRL TYPICAL EIGHTEEN TO TWENTY FOUR MONTH TIME. NOW IN THE MAIN DROP THERE YOU SEE THAT’S REALLY SIFTING THAT STAND ALONE SO THAT ENABLED. ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAD YOU KNOW WHAT WE WOULD CALL A GREEN FIELD DEPLOYMENT RIGHT WHERE THERE WASN’T AN EXISTING LTE DEPLOYMENT THAT THEY CAN LEVERAGE. THAT ALLOWED YOU IN THE LATTER HALF OF TWENTY EIGHTEEN A COMPLETE SET OF STANDARDS TO GO BUILD A STANDALONE FIVE G NETWORK.SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN THAT MEANS THAT YOU KNOW IT’S WORTH EXAMINING THIS QUESTION WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS THEY’VE DEPLOYED FIVE G WHAT IS THAT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN RIGHT.IS IT ABOUT SIX K KURTZ IS BELOW SIX K KURTZ IS A STANDALONE FIVE G IS BASED ON LTE. IS USING THINGS LIKE A BEAM STEERING. OUR MASS OF MY MORTAR SOME OF THE OTHER RADIO TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE REALLY ARE ENABLING FIVE G TO GET THOSE DATA RATES THAT KEVIN TALKED ABOUT. AND SO FIVE G DOESN’T MEAN ANYONE THINK IT MEANS LATINA PICKING AND CHOOSING FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT CAPABILITIES IN ORDER TO SATISFY THOSE USE CASES ON THE PARCEL TAX I PLEASE.HARRY TURNING IT OVER TO THE QUESTION OF WHAT IS THE CURRENT LEGAL AND REGULATORY FREE MARKET THE CITY MUST FOLLOW. WERE JOINED BY KEN FELL MAN WHO IS THE CITY OF BOULDER’S LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE ON TO TELECOMMUNICATIONS ISSUES THROUGH THE COLORADO COMMUNICATIONS AND UTILITY ALLIANCE.THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. THANK YOU GOOD EVENING AMERICA ALSO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME IT’S NICE TO BE HERE THIS IS THERE’S A VERY COMPLICATED. FEDERAL STATE AND LOCAL LEGAL REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT WE HAVE TO NAVIGATE AROUND AND TRY TO COVER. IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES OF HIGHLIGHTS WHAT WE RECENTLY DID A NINETY MINUTE CAR A MINUSCULE ELEVEN ARE SO HOPEFULLY I’LL HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS WE HAVE. A STATE SMALL CELL BILL THAT WAS PASSED IN TWO THOUSAND AND SEVENTEEN. THE BILL MAKES SMALL CELL FACILITIES NOT TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE ARE IN THE FUTURE SIDE A USE BY RIGHT IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT. THOSE USES ARE SUBJECT TO LOCAL POLICE POWERS WOULD INCLUDE YOUR ZONING AUTHORITY.WE HAD AN EXISTING STATE SHOT CLOCK WHICH ACTUALLY MIRRORED THE FEDERAL SHOT CLOCK FOR OTHER KINDS OF WIRELESS FACILITIES THAT WERE NOT. SMALL CELLS AND APPLIED THAT SHOT CLOCK TO SMALL SMALL CELL FACILITIES ALLOWS FOR BATCH APPLICATIONS SO THEY CAN PUT A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS TOGETHER UNDER ONE PERMIT APPLICATION.IT AUTHORIZED THE USE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT POLLS FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT IMPOSE OUR STATE LEGISLATURE HAS AUTHORIZED THE USE OF ANY POSE OF THE CITY MIGHT HAVE. AND IT DOES NOT LIMIT FEES FOR THE ATTACHMENTS THAT CAN BE CHARGED TO GOVERNMENT STRUCTURES UNLESS. THOSE FEES WOULD BE LIMITED IF THE CITY WERE REGULATED PURSUANT TO THE FEDERAL POLITICS WHERE RULES WHICH IS A SEPARATE RABBIT HOLE THAT WE’RE NOT GOING TO GO INTO TONIGHT.SO NEXT I’M THE ONE IN TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHTEEN IN SEPTEMBER THE FCC CAME OUT WITH AN ORDER. UNDER THE TELECOM ACT TO INTERPRET WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO PROHIBIT OR EFFECTIVELY PROHIBIT. THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICE WHICH IS LANGUAGE FROM THE NINETEEN NINETY SIX TELECOM ACT AND THAT. THEY INTERPRETED IT IN A FAIRLY UNIQUE WAY THAT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH SOME COURT CASES FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY AND CONSISTENT WITH OTHER COURT CASES. IT CONFLICTS WITH OUR STATE LAW IN CERTAIN RESPECTS WHICH I’LL DISCUSS IN A SECOND. INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TESTS WERE IT CREATES THE PRESUMPTION IS THAT IF CERTAIN THINGS HAPPEN. THAN IT IS PRESUMED THAT THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS MATERIALLY INHIBITED AND THEREFORE PROHIBITED IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW A COMPANY’S ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICE SO THEY HAVE TEST FOR. WHAT THE MAXIMUM FEES CAN BE FOR PERMITS BUT HOW AESTHETIC REQUIREMENTS OR IMPOSE WHAT KINDS OF SEPARATION AND SPACING UNDERGROUND REQUIREMENTS YOU CAN HAVE WHAT IT MEANS TO ACT IN A TIMELY MANNER.IT CREATES TWO NEW SHOT CLOCKS.IT REDEFINES THE TERM CO LOCATION AND IN THESE RULES ARE BEING APPEALED IN FEDERAL COURT RIGHT NOW BY HUNDREDS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY.THE CC TO A GROUP WHICH BOULDER IS A MEMBER IS ONE OF THE PARTIES THAT IS. CHALLENGING THESE RULES SO MORE NATURAL ONLY GOING TO BE HERE WILL HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR THAT IN ABOUT SIX TO NINE MONTHS ACTUALLY. SO CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE STATE LAW AND AND THE FCC ORDER LET ME SAY AT THE OUTSET THAT. THE INDUSTRY FOLKS WHO NEGOTIATED THE THIS PILLOW. BOOK OF GOVERNMENT AND NOT THINK WE NEEDED STATE LOSS EMAIL THIS POST TO AND CC I WAS SUPPOSE TO ACC WAS OPPOSED TO IT. BUT WE WERE TOLD THERE’S GOING TO BE A BILL AND THEREFORE WE NEGOTIATED.WE CAME UP WITH A COMPROMISE.OUR BILL IS NOT GREAT BUT IT IS NOT NEARLY AS BAD AS MANY OF THE OTHER STAPLES AROUND THE COUNTRY. THE INDUSTRY HAS MOST MANY IN THE INDUSTRY HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED TO ME. THAT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE THEY AGREE IT WAS A COMPROMISE THEY TOLD THE LEGISLATURE IN COLORADO THAT THEY CAN LIVE WITH THE STATE LAW. AND THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE HAVE CONFLICTS BETWEEN THE STATE LAW AND THE FEDERAL RULES THEY WILL LIVE WITH THE STATE LAW WHICH IS. GIVES YOU MORE FLEXIBILITY GIVES ALL MUNICIPALITIES MORE FLEXIBILITY. SO CO LOCATION UNDER STATE LAW IT MEANS CO LOCATING SORT OF WHAT YOU THINK IT WOULD MEAN TO ADD ON TO A FACILITY WHERE YOU ALREADY HAVE FACILITIES. UNDER THE FCC RULES THAT MEANS MOUNTING EQUIPMENT ON ANY STRUCTURE. THAT MIGHT BE CAPABLE OF HOUSING IT EVEN HAS NOTHING AND IT HASN’T BEEN APPROVED FOR ANYTHING SO IF YOU WANT TO PUT ONE ON YOUR HOUSE. AND WAS CAPABLE OF HOLDING IT UNDER THE FCC RULES THAT WOULD BE A CO LOCATION.GO FIGURE THE STATE DEFINITION OF WHAT IS A SMALL CELL ANTENNAS NO MORE THAN THREE CUBIC FEET OR WOULD FIT WITHIN A THREE CUBIC FEET ENCLOSURE. ALL OF THE ANCILLARY EQUIPMENT NO MORE THAN SEVENTEEN CUBIC FEET AND THEN THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS THE FCC RULES THREE CUBIC FEET FOR THE ANTENNAS BUT TWENTY EIGHT CUBIC FEET FOR THE ANSWER EQUIPMENT.WHAT AN IMAGE IN YOUR MIND WHAT’S TWENTY EIGHT CUBIC FEET. GO TO GOOGLE IMAGES TYPE AND TWENTY EIGHT CUBIC FEET AND WHAT WILL POP UP WILL BE HUNDREDS OF ADS FOR REFRIGERATOR FREEZERS LARGE ONES.SO IMAGINE YOUR REFRIGERATOR FREEZER CUT UP INTO FIVE PIECES AND PLANT THOSE ON PULSE AND THAT’S WHAT THE FCC CONSIDERS A SMALL CELL.THE FCC ALSO SAYS THAT CAN BE CAN BE ON THE STRUCTURES UP TO FIFTY FEET HIGH. WHICH I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST MOST PEOPLE WOULD NOT CONSIDER SMALL ESPECIALLY IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS ACCESS. SO STATE SHOT CLOCK AS I MENTIONED. TO THE EXISTING SHOT CLOCKS FOR NINETY DAYS FOR WEATHER CO LOCATION OR LOCATION OF NOOSE. ALSO FACILITIES THE FCC RULES SAY FOR CO LOCATING SO AGAIN PUTTING IT ON ANY EXISTING STRUCTURE SIXTY DAY SHOT CLOCK.IF IT’S A NEW STAND ALONE STRUCTURE NINETY DAYS IF YOU REQUIRE A PRE APPLICATION MEETING IN YOUR CODE. AND THE APPLICANT WANTS TO TENDER THEIR APPLICATION WHEN THEY COME TO THAT MEETING THE SHOT CLOCK STARTS BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN THIS APPLICATION. SO WHEN THINGS THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE STARTING TO DO IS THEIR MOTTO. MODIFYING THEIR COACHES TO MAKE PRE APPLICATION MEETINGS OPTIONAL AND IF A COMPANY IS WILLING TO GO THROUGH ONE BECAUSE IN THE LONG TERM THAT USUALLY MAKES THINGS WORK FASTER. AND A WAY OF THE SHOT CLOCK STARTING UNTIL THE APPLICATION ACTUALLY GETS FILE.NEXT MY LICENSE AND PERMIT FEES UNDER STATE LAW AND THIS IS NOT NEW TO ANYONE HERE. WE’VE HAD THE LONG COLORADO FOR A LONG TIME NOT JUST TELECOM ANY KIND OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT PERMIT FEES MUST BE LIMITED TO COST RECOVERY.THE COUNCIL PROBABLY ADOPT A NEW FEE SCHEDULE EVERY YEAR. AND YOU STUDY WHAT THE COSTS ARE TO UNDERTAKE CERTAIN ACTIVITIES AND WHATEVER THOSE FEES ARE IS WHAT YOU CARE OR KA SAR IS WHAT YOU CAN CHARGE IN YOUR FEASTS. THE FCC RULES I MENTION THEY CREATE PRESUMPTION IS THAT IF YOU GO BEYOND THEM.IT’S PRESUMED THAT YOU’RE VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW THEY SAID FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ALL FEES WHETHER IT’S THE APPLICATION FEE FOR THE PERMIT CONSTRUCTION PERMIT A LANE CLOSURE PERMIT. TOTAL NO MORE THAN FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR UP TO FIVE FACILITIES YOUR OR YOUR YOU ARE PRESUMED TO BE VIOLATING FEDERAL LAW.IT’S A THOUSAND DOLLARS IF IT’S A NEW POLLING OUT OF CO LOCATION AND THEN FOR GOVERNMENT OWNED POLES INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO CHARGE RENT WHICH STATE LAW WOULD ALLOW. THE FEDERAL RULE CAPS ATTACHMENTS TO GOVERNMENT FACILITIES AT TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY DOLLARS PER POLE PER YEAR.NEXT UNDER STATE LAW AS I SAID THERE’S A RIGHT GRANTED TO USE LOCAL GOVERNMENT STRUCTURES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY BUT THEY ARE SUBJECT TO. THE GOVERNMENT’S LOCAL POLICE POWER SO YOU CAN IMPOSE ZONING REQUIREMENTS ON IT IF YOU HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.LET’S SAY YOU’VE GOT SAFETY EQUIPMENT ON IT AND SOMEONE ONCE PUT A SMALL SELLER MIGHT INTERFERE OR YOU CAN SAY NO.IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES THE FEDERAL RULES BASICALLY SAYS ANY LOCAL GOVERNMENT STRUCTURES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT ARE SUITABLE FOR HOSTING THE SMALL CELLS. CAN GET THEM AND IT’S NOT LIMITED TO LOCAL ZONING LAWS LOCAL POLICE CAR RESTRICTIONS NEXT AESTHETICS BIG ISSUE.UNDER STATE LAW AGAIN BECAUSE LOCAL ZONING IS PRESERVE THAT MEANS WE CAN IMPOSE A STATIC REQUIREMENTS. THE FCC RULES ACKNOWLEDGE THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN IMPOSE A SET OF REQUIREMENTS AND THOSE WILL NOT BE PRE PRINTED IF THEY ARE AND THESE ARE THE FCC DESCRIPTIONS OBJECTIVELY REASONABLE.NO MORE BURDENSOME THAN WHAT YOU APPLY TO OTHER TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE DEPLOYMENTS AND OBJECTIVE AND PUBLISHED IN ADVANCE.PUBLISHED IN ADVANCE IS EASY WE CAN PUT HIM IN THE CODE YOU CAN PUT HIM IN DESIGN STANDARDS AND PUT MY LINE.THERE’S LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN PUBLISH IN ADVANCE WHAT IS OBJECTIVELY REASONABLE IF THE FCC RULES ARE UPHELD.I GUARANTEE YOU THAT WILL BE BEFORE A COURT IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE BECAUSE OF HER TRYING TO PROTECT A VIEW CARTER. AND YOU’VE GOT A PARK WITH A VIEW TO FLAT IRONS. A POLE BLOCKS THAT LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND IF YOU’RE PUTTING THE SAME POLL IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE IN FRONT OF A MANUFACTURING PLANT. AND I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU SAY THAT SUBJECTIVELY THE SAME.ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH FEDERAL RULES NEXT LIFE. UNDER GROUNDING UNDER STATE LAW AGAIN FOR AESTHETICS AND FOR SAFETY WE HAVE A NARROW RIGHT OF WAY MORE YOU DON’T WANT TO PUT ABOVE GROUND EQUIPMENT YOU CAN REQUIRE. CHANCELLOR EQUIPMENT TO BE PUT UNDERGROUND THE FCC SAYS UNDER GROUNDING MIGHT BE OKAY BUT IT MIGHT ALSO BE PREVENTED IF IT MATERIALLY INHIBITS THOSE MAGIC WORDS THE PROVISION OF WIRELESS SERVICE SPACING REQUIREMENTS. THOSE ARE PERMITTED UNDER STATE LAW A GANDER RELATED TO AESTHETICS AND COMMUNITY CHARACTER UNDER THE FCC RULES AGAIN. IF SOMEBODY CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT THEY’RE NOT OBJECTIVELY REASONABLE THEY COULD BE OVERTURNED EXCITED ARCH AND I THINK THIS IS MY LAST LINE SO. THERE HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT INTEREST ON THE PART OF THE WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND OR RESPECT ABOUT HOW DO. ANY OF THESE FACILITIES IMPACT HEALTH AND AS YOU HEARD FROM THE EARLIER PRESENTATIONS WERE TALKING ABOUT MILLIMETER WAVE TECHNOLOGY WHERE THERE HAS NOT BEEN AS MUCH RESEARCH DONE AS. SOME OF EARLIER VERSIONS OF WIRELESS SERVICES.I’M NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD BUT I WILL TELL YOU THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK UNDER THE NINETEEN NINETY SIX TELECOM ACT WHILE IT PRESERVES LOCAL ZONING AUTHORITY ON SITING. THERE ARE FEW LIMITS A FEW LIMITATIONS AND ONE OF WHICH SAYS THAT WE ARE PRE EMPT IT FROM. MAKING ANY REGULATIONS BASED ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS OF RADIO FREQUENCY EMISSIONS AND THAT INCLUDES A HEALTH EFFECTS. AND THERE IS CASE LAW AROUND THE COUNTRY IN A PARTICULAR ONE IN THE TEN CIRCUIT OF WHICH COLORADO IS A PART WHICH HAS SUPPORTED THAT VERY BROAD FEDERAL PREEMPTION. THE FCC IS THE AGENCY THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO SET THESE EMISSION STANDARDS SO WHAT HAS HAPPENED AT THE FCC. THEY HAVE HAD STANDARDS IN PLACE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND THEY HAD AN OPEN DOCKET. TIME TO UPDATE THOSE STANDARDS AND HAS BEEN OPEN FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS SO CONSIDER THE IRONY OF THE FCC. DOESN’T MIND TELLING US THAT WE HAVE TO ACT AND SIXTY OR NINETY DAYS BUT THEY DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM KEEPING A DOCKET OPEN FOR SIX YEARS BEFORE THEY UPDATED.THERE ARE SOME COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE CREATED RESTRICTIONS I’VE SEEN SOME ARTICLES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT OUT THAT SAID THE CITIES OF THINGS TO STOP FIVE G. IN SOME OF THE CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN CITED IN THOSE ARTICLES I’VE CALLED THEIR ATTORNEYS WHO HAVE WORKED. WITH OR FOR THEM OR KNOW MORE ABOUT THOSE CASES AND BASICALLY WHAT I’VE BEEN TOLD IS SOME OF THOSE. FACTS ARE NOT BEING PORTRAYED ACCURATELY IN THE PRESS WHAT A SURPRISE. AND FOR OTHERS THEY SAID YEAH THEY’VE DONE IT BUT THERE’S A LAWSUIT WAITING TO HAPPEN AND THERE WILL BE RECKONING WHEN THAT TIME COMES.SO YOU COULD IMPOSE RESTRICTIONS BUT I WOULD TELL YOU THAT MY READING OF THE LAW. AND WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF IT COMES TO THAT AS YOU MOVE FORWARD TO THE CITY ATTORNEY’S OFFICE LOOK AT IT AS WELL AS I I THINK WE HAVE. VERY VERY LITTLE AUTHORITY YOU CAN REQUIRE AN APPLICANT TO CERTIFY THAT THEY’RE GOING TO COMPLY WITH FEDERAL REGULATIONS.YOU CAN REQUIRE THEM TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY’RE IN COMPLIANCE. BUT YOU CAN NOT REGULATE BASED ON THE HEALTH EFFECTS AND OR SAY WHAT WE DON’T WANT THESE NEAR A SCHOOL OR READ A LOT THESE NEAR PARKER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.THE ONE THING YOU CAN DO TO ADVOCATE AND AGAIN THE C C TO A AND C AND L HAVE DONE THIS IS CONGRESS CAN PUT PRESSURE ON THE FCC TO GET THE STOCK IT.DON AND SENATOR GARDNER SITS ON THE COMMITTEE THAT HAS OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITY OVER THE FCC. CONGRESSWOMAN TO GET SEATS ON THE HOUSE COMMITTEE THAT HAS OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITY OVER THE FCC. AGAINST TCU AND I THINK SAM L HAVE SENT LETTERS URGING THAT THEY PLEASE COMPLETE THE STOCK IT BECAUSE. THE FCC CAN ACTUALLY HELP US IF THEY WOULD FINISH. THIS WORK AND COME OUT WITH RULES THAT INCORPORATE. FIVE G TECHNOLOGY IN NEW STANDARDS IT WOULD GIVE ALL OF US IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT A BETTER TOOL TO USE TO HELP EDUCATE AND WORK WITH OUR PUBLIC. BUT THE FCC HAS NOT SIMPLY DOESN’T YOU KNOW I CAN SAY WHY THEY HAVE NOT ACTED.I SERVE ON AN FCC ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND I’VE BEEN URGING THEM FOR YEARS TO PLEASE FINISH OF STOCK IT AND I HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL. THE TWO SITES HERE ARE SOME MATERIALS THAT YOU MIGHT FIND HELPFUL IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK AND OF THE SEC’S RF EMISSION STANDARDS AND I’M HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS LATER.THANK YOU GREATOK LET’S MOVE INTO WHAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY DONE OR IS DOING FROM A CODE OR PLANNING STANDPOINT AND WERE JOINED BY EDWARD STAFFORD AND DEVELOP MEMORY MANAGER FOR WORKS.THANK YOU JULIE GAVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION TO POST THIS INFORMATION WAS ALSO PRESENTED.WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT ABOUT THE SOUTH BOULDER RECREATION CENTER.SOME OF IT ALSO INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET MY DIDN’T INTEND TO COVER ALL OF THAT TONIGHT. AS YOU KNOW WE HAVE REGULATED WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES FOR QUITE SOME TIME IN BOULDER AND HAVE HAD SOME OF THE MOST STRINGENT REGULATIONS IS AKIN TO THE AESTHETIC APPROACH. TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE I BELIEVE LESS THAN A HANDFUL OF MODEL POLLS CURRENTLY IN THE CITY. MOST OF THE REGULATIONS REQUIRED THEM TO GO ON EXISTING BUILDINGS AND PRIVATE SITES UNTIL MOST RECENTLY NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.AS YOU MAY RECALL WE SHOULD THIS IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION. IN THE PERIOD OF TWO THOUSAND AND TWO DOZEN EIGHTEEN HUNDRED AND TWELVE PERMITS WERE PROCESSED FOR WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION FACILITIES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.THIS IS BY NO MEANS LIMITED. TO ONLY FACILITIES OUT THERE. ARE CERTAIN ONES AND BEFORE THAT THE EARLIER PERMITS. SOMETIMES ALSO THERE’S MORE THAN ONE PERMIT AND SITE AS THEY COME IN AND DO UPDATES PUT IN A DIFFERENT ANTENNA PANELS MORE INTENSE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND AS TO WHERE WE ARE READY TO SEE FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY LOOKS LIKE PLEASE.BOULDER’S REGULATIONS WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW PROCESS BASED ON BOTH THE TITLE A TEN TITLE MY NUMBER CODE. REGULATIONS ARE INDEPENDENT OF THE TECHNOLOGY BEING USED SO WE DON’T EVALUATE WHETHER ITS THREE G FOUR G LTE FIVE G OR THE OTHER ACRONYMS WE’VE HEARD TONIGHT. ITS TECHNOLOGY THERE’S LOTS OF ACRONYMS TO IT.WE ARE PRIMARILY LOOKING AT REGULATIONS BASED ON AESTHETICS COMMUNITY CONCERNS LAND USE POWERS LOCATIONS THOSE TYPES OF THINGS AND HAVE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.NEXT I PLACE JUST TO REMIND YOU THERE WERE SOME UPDATES THAT WERE MADE FOR REGULATIONS IN OCTOBER OF TWO DEAD AND SEVENTEEN. IN RESPONSE TO THE STATE BILL AND SOME PREVIOUS FCC RULINGS WANTED TO ENSURE WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH. THE WAY WE WENT ABOUT WORKING ON THAT WAS NOT TO START FROM SCRATCH BUT ACTUALLY REVIEWED THE BEST PRACTICES OF OTHER JURISDICTIONS CAN FILMS WORK WENT INTO THAT MODEL. ORDINANCES THAT ARE SUGGESTED AFTER WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY’S OFFICE.I SHOULD SAY THE CITY ATTORNEY’S OFFICE WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH STAFF THEY DID A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING ON THAT TO GET. OUR UPDATES AND THOSE WERE INTENDED TO PROVIDE SOME UPDATES IN THE LAND USE REGULATIONS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE ABILITY FOR UPGRADES TO BE MADE. TO EXISTING SITES AND A SHORTER PROCESS THAT WE’RE REQUIRED TO HAVE IN THE BIG CHUNK OF THIS WAS ADDING SOME NEW. LANGUAGE IN TITLE EIGHT WHICH IS WE’RE REGULATING THE PLACEMENT OF THINGS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. IS PRIOR TO THAT THESE ANY OF THESE TYPES OF DEVICES WERE PROHIBITED THE CITY’S RIGHT OF WAY. IN SO THAT SUBSECTION OF CODE INCLUDES LOCATION REQUIREMENTS WORK AND GO WITH IT AND RESIDENTIAL WHAT CAN THE HEIGHTS BE. HOW FAR DOES IT NEED TO BE FROM SIDEWALKS HAVE IS OUT BUT IT CAN INTERFERE WITH OTHER TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES THE AESTHETICS OF COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS ARE LISTED IN THERE.IT ENCOURAGES THE REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING FACILITIES EXISTING STREET LIGHT POLES OVER IN U S TO ALLOW FOR BOTH ALSO UPDATED OUR PERMIT REQUIREMENTS AND APPLICATION FEES TO ENSURE WE WERE GETTING WHAT WE NEEDED. KEEP IN MIND THESE REGULATIONS WERE BEFORE THE FCC IS CURRENT QUARTER THAT TECH AND FILM WHICH JUST TALKING ABOUT FOR EXAMPLE OR APPLICATION FEES ARE NOT THE SAME AS WHAT’S IN THAT ORDER.I’M NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.JUST AN UPDATE OF WHERE THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING RECENTLY. AGREED WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS STILL INFORMED OF WHERE SMALL SO ESPECIALLY OTHER WE ARE STILL ALSO SEEING AND PROCESSING APPLICATIONS TO MODIFY EXISTING SITES AND BUILDINGS. YOU WILL SEE IN YOUR MEMO GET FIFTY TWO SMALL CELL SITES SINCE THE MEMO WAS WRITTEN.WE’VE GOT A FEW MORE WE’RE NOW AT FIFTY SIX. OF THOSE FORTY OUR APPROVED LIST OF THOSE APPROVED LOCATIONS IS POSTED ON THE CITY’S WEBSITE. AND INFORMATION IN THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AREA ON SMALL SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON AN UPDATED MAP TO BE ABLE TO POST. AND THEY’VE BEEN SEVEN APPLICATIONS JUST THIS YEAR ON NON SMALL CELL ON THOSE EXISTING BUILDING MOUNTED SINCE WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR REGULATIONS.LOOK WE NEED TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS ARE NOT. AS WE’RE UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS ARE ALSO LOOKING AT HAVING TO CHANGE SOME OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSING. PER LOT ABOUT THE SHOT CLOCKS THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE HAD IS ADMINISTRATIVELY. THE ABOVE PROCESS THAT RUNS CONSECUTIVE RYDER CAN COMBAT CONCURRENT RIGHT NOW TO BUILDING PERMIT AND FREQUENTLY EXTENDS BEYOND THE SHOT CLOCK.WE’RE LOOKING AT DOING UPDATES IN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSING TO DO THESE. CURRENTLY THAT WE CAN BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH US SO THAT’S THE VERY HIGH LEVEL OF WHERE WE ARE IN OUR REGULATIONS TODAY. I THINK YOU ALSO ADD THAT EDWARD AND I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS WITH. TELECOM PROVIDERS IN PREPARATION FOR THIS MEETING BECAUSE COUNCIL IS PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE TIMELINE IS FOR POTENTIAL DEPLOYMENTS IN BOULDER. AND NONE OF THE TELECOM PROVIDERS THAT WE HAVE MET WITH PLANS TO DEPLOY FIVE G IN BOULDER AT LEAST IN THE NEXT YEAR.SO IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW THAT TIMELINE WE SAW BEFORE WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY INDICATION THAT THIS IS THE PLANNED SITE FOR FIVE G IN THE SHORT TERM. ARE TURNING IT OVER TO DOCTOR SAM BETH WHO SHOULD BE ON THE PHONE AND DOCTOR SAM AT THE CAN HEAR US. PLEASE JUST ON YOURSELF BY PRESSING STAR SIX. AND THE DOCTOR IS THE DEAN AND PROFESSOR OF THE COLORADO SCHOOL OF HEALTH. AND THE INVERSE OF COLORADO ANSCHUTZ MEDICAL CAMPUS AND CSU AND THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTHERN COLORADO SO WE’RE PLEASED TO HAVE HIM JOIN IN HERE SO K. ARGUMENT CAN HEAR ME OK WE CAN HEAR YOU AND I GOT YOUR SLIDES UP SO JUST TELL ME ONE TO ADVANCE THE SLIDES ON MY MONITOR FOR SLICE OR GRATE. ON THE BEING OF THE COLORADO SCHOOL OF HEALTH AND ACTUALLY A BOULDER RESIDENT AND START KICKING HE WOULD START A PROFESSIONAL MEETING IN. SAN DIEGO THE NEXT SLIDE OF THE EVOLUTION OF MOBILE PHONE AND ENDED UP ONLY TO. TALK ABOUT THE CHALLENGE OF UNDERSTANDING THE HEALTH IMPLICATIONS OF THESE DEVICES THEY CHANGE OVER TIME AND REMARKABLY THE IPHONE IS NOW ONLY TWELVE YEARS OLD.I’VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS. ISSUE OF THE HEALTH CONSEQUENCES OF PRETTY OF CHICKEN TO ADD A MAGNETIC RADIATION. BECAUSE OF AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST OF SOMEONE WHO STUDIES DISEASE IN POPULATIONS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN STUDIES OF RADIATION HEALTH. CHECKS AND THAT LED ME TO BE THE CHAIR OF THE TWO THOUSAND AND ELEVEN WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION GROUP. AT THE INTERNATIONAL AGENCY FOR RESEARCH ON CANCER HAS LOOKED AT THE CARSON MISSED IT THIS TYPE OF RADIATION. ONE CHALLENGE THAT THE ALLERGIST IS IN FACT WE’RE NOT STARTING ONE THING BUT SOMETHING THAT CHANGES OVER TIME AND I’LL COME BACK TO THAT IF YOU THINK ABOUT CIGARETTES. THE SAME IN NINETEEN HUNDRED FANS TO SHAME IN NINETEEN EIGHTY MORE LUSH AND SO SPOKE. TO THE TRIUMPHS OF MY CHILL FINDING SMOKING CAUSED LUNG CANCER BUT. IT’S A DIFFERENT CHALLENGE FOR THE NEXT LINE IN THE MATERIALS ALREADY BEEN SHOWN THE SPECTRUM OF RISING AND I DURING RADIATION. FROM THE HELPFUL INTERVIEW TO CAUSE THE EYE KNOCKING RADIATION AND X RAYS IT’S HARD TO CALL THAT COME WITH RADON EXPOSURE DELIVERED UP THE ENERGY THAT SELLS DAMAGE TO. A BREAK TODAY AND THE KIND OF BREAKS AND MUTATIONS ARE WHAT LEAD TO CANCER. ARE NOT RISING RADIATION NOW COME BACK TO A LOT OF THE QUESTION IS ABOUT HOW THIS KIND OF RADIATION WHICH DELIVERS MUCH LESS ENERGY TO THE BODY. DAMAGE CELLS COULD DAMAGE DNA AND WHEN BACK IN TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN WE LOOKED AT THIS THERE WERE THOSE PEOPLE COMING FROM THE EXCITED JOHNSON SAID ON FIRST PRINCIPLES.IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE FOR NON DIAGNOSTIC RADIATION AT LEAST TO CAUSE. CANCER AND YOU COULD HEAR A PETITION AND FIVE SHE OUGHT TO BE BIRTHED RICHNESS EXPECTS HIM. TO THE NEXT FLIGHT TO HAVE TO PUT THIS IN BECAUSE OF THE NEW YORK TIMES SHE WEEKS AGO UM TALK ABOUT SOME OLD ARGUMENTS ABOUT. CHEATING IN THE RELATIONSHIP OF CHEATING FROM THIS TYPE OF RADIATION TO. TREAT CANCER WAY PLAY TO THE ROAD TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS KIND OF CONTROVERSY AND DISCUSSION HAS BEEN. GOING ON FOR AWHILE YOU SHOULD BE FOR MAKING MR. DISCUSSION REGARDING THE NEXT LINE SHOULD BE A TO RE STUDY HEALTH EFFECTS OF USING ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION HERE OR THERE. THE US FOR THEIR GOOD FAITH OF THE STUDY SHOWS I MENTION THAT THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE WOMB. THE CONTROVERSY BEGAN ABOUT CANCER AND QUICKLY BRAIN CANCER PEOPLE THAT STUDIES THAT. WERE POSSIBLE THAT NOT POSSIBLE NOW THEY’RE GREAT SIMPLISTIC SIMPLY PEOPLE WITH BRAIN CANCER PROBABLE PEOPLE WITHOUT BRAIN CANCER AND ASKING ABOUT. SIMPLE THINGS IF HE EVER USED UP MUCH OF THE STUDY GO BACK AT LEAST FIFTEEN YEARS NOW BUT NOT THE TIME TO DEVICES ARE PARTICULARLY RELEVANT TODAY. EVEN IF YOU UPLOAD YOUR COHORT STUDIES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRACKED OVER TIME AND BRAIN CANCER RATES LOOKED AT IN RELATIONSHIP TO CELLPHONE USE THEIR MINIATURE THOSE AND DID NOT. HAVE BIG ENOUGH TO ANSWER THE QUESTION WE ALL LIKE TO DANCE OR. POP FLY THAT COULD UNDERSTAND THE SYMMETRY WHAT WE’RE EXPOSED TO. AND HOW THAT MAY RELATE TO ENERGY DELIVERED TO DIFFERENT TISSUES AND CELLS SCAN AND THE EYE PARTICULAR TRYING TO PROBE MORE DEEPLY AND UNDERSTAND MECHANISMS BY WHICH CELLS COULD BE AFFECTED.I WILL SAY IT IS A GROWING LITERATURE WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT THERE ARE CHANGES IN TO SHOOT FOR EXAMPLE. MORE EVIDENCE OF THE BOX A BIT OF STIMULATION THAT IS WITH FREE RADICALS OF OXYGEN AND RELATED SPECIES THAT MIGHT. DAMAGE TO IT BUT THIS IS ALL WORK IN PROGRESS IN THE BOTTOM. CHALLENGES STUDYING THE CHANGING TECHNOLOGY OVER TIME. CAN WE START TALKING TO FIVE G’S THE RECENTLY COMPLETED VERY LARGE BIO ESSAY STUDY. OF MICE AND RATS EXPOSED IS KIND OF RADIATION FOR SIX TO TWO G AND THREE G TECHNOLOGY AND COULDN’T ANSWER ONE OF MY CHARGES. DISCUSSION FURTHER BEHIND BECAUSE THERE’S NOT AN ORGANIZED RESEARCH FUNDING HAS NOT BEEN A STRONG NATIONAL AGENDA TO CHILL WITH THEM AND THE CATCH. UNFORTUNATELY DONE THAT FOR OTHER KINDS OF PROBLEMS LIKE PARTICLES IN THE AIR THE MATERIALS BUT. NOT YESTERDAY OR THIS TYPE OF VARIATION. TO GO TO THE NEXT LINE WHICH SAYS THAT WHAT WE KNOW OF GOT NOT MUCH QUESTION MARK IN THE BOTTOM I WOULD BE NOT. ENOUGH WE STILL FACE THE CHALLENGE OF THE POTENTIAL MECHANISM OF UNDERLYING INJURY HAD TO TYPE RADIATION BOTHER DAMAGE OR INJURE SELF.WE HAVE TWO LARGE ANIMAL STUDIES TREAT OF THE REPORTERS ONE FROM OUR. NATIONAL TOXICOLOGY PROGRAM AND ONE FROM ECOLOGY INSTITUTE IN ITALY THE RAMSEY AND TO. END THE VOTE SHOWED THAT I THINK THAT’S IMPORTANT TO QUESTION THE DEGREE OF TRACTION HOW COULD IT BE IT. IN THE STUDIES IN THIS ABILITY IN THE FIGHTING FOR THE TWO FISHING AND THE PROLIFERATION OF THE NEURAL CELLS AND TO INVOKE BIO ESSAYS THERE ARE. SEVERAL CELL TUMORS OF THE HEARTS OF ATTENTION NOT CHANGE AND PEOPLE SHOWED UP IN BOTH THERE WAS AN INDICATION OF THE SHACKS IN THE EIGHTIES TO STUDY.I THINK THAT THE QUESTION OF POWER THE PERFECT CAUSE SHOW EVIDENCE THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED TO THE ADULTS WERE MADE WERE. RATED ACCORDING TO PAUL’S INTENDED TO REPLICATE THE USE OF SALT ON ALL THE PROM TO COME WITH ANIMAL STUDIES EXTRAPOLATE SHOULD PEOPLE AND SO ON. BUT AGAIN THE EVIDENCE I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT THAT SUCH A HAPPY ONE IF GEOLOGICAL STUDIES INTO CONTROVERSIAL TERRITORY IT’S VERY HARD TO DO THE STUDIES THAT ARE. NOT SUBJECT TO SUBSTANTIAL LIMITATIONS THE EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDIES TO MENTION THE OLDER TECHNOLOGIES. THAT PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED THE OTHER KIND SUBJECTS ARE THE ELDEST OF THE DAY WAS A TOUGH TERRITORY THERE’S STILL AN IMPORTANT. STUDY OF BRAIN TUMORS IN CHILDREN TO COME PROBABLY TO THE RESULTS OF THOSE SOON AND AN OUTCOME THAT THE DECISION FROM THE ROSE INTERNATIONAL AGENCY FOR RESEARCH ON. CANCER OF THE NEXT SLIDE IT TO TABLE DINNER FROM STUDY AT THE TOP. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE PIECES OF EVIDENCE THAT IN TWO THOUSAND AND ELEVEN SHOWED ONLY BECAUSE IT SHOWS YOU HOW. I HAVE TO SORT THROUGH THE DATA TO THE STUDY DOESN’T COMPUTE OF THE TWO THOUSAND FOR SOME OF THE DIFFERENT DAY OF CELL PHONE USE. AND DOWN BOUGHT ACHIEVEMENT OF CALL TIME SO THAT’S A TESTAMENT OF HOW MANY HOURS OF CALLING SOMEBODY ACTUALLY MADE A COST OR LIFETIME. IN THE BOTTOM YOU COME THAT ONE FOR THE HIGHEST. GROUP THE HIGHEST USER GROUP AND ONE THE PIECES OF EVIDENCE THAT WE. PAY ATTENTION TO WHICH IT IS NOT MY SORT OF PATTERNS GOING FROM LESS THAN FIVE HOURS ALL THE TOP. LASH LINE IS THE REPORT ON THE TODAY SHOW HIDE HIS LITTLE BIT OF ANIMATION THERE AT THE CONCLUSION OF WHERE YOU ARE THE LIMITED EVIDENCE THAT. GOT OKAY THIS IS THE CONCLUSION OF A VERY LONG DOCUMENT INVISIBLE AMID EVIDENCE IN HUMANS IN EXPERIMENTAL ANIMALS. THE WORKING GROUP CLASSIFIED FREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD IS QUOTE POSSIBLY CARCINOGENIC CREW TO BE. THIS IS WHAT THE A CLASSIFICATION SCHEMES THAT. THE AGENCY OF USE YOU AND YOU GET THERE BY NOW THE COACH OF ALL THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF EVIDENCE. OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS IT’S BEEN A LOT OF TIME AND WHAT IS IT POSSIBLE CARCINOGEN.IT’S A LITTLE BIT OF EACH OF THE ONE HAND OTHER HAND AND AS I’VE INTERPRETED THIS CONCLUSION. CANNOT SAY THAT THIS TYPE OF RADIATION IS JH STATES MEANING THAT WE KNOW THE DRESS CAN RECHARGE TO BE ACCEPTABLE HADN’T. INDICATED THAT THE POSSIBLY MEAN THERE’S A WARNING. TO ME IT’S THE OBSERVER SEARCHER THIS MEANS THAT RESEARCH IS NEEDED IS A LOT OF CATCH IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OVER THE EIGHT YEARS SINCE REPORTS. OF PEOPLE TO THOSE WHO NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS NOT VERY SATISFYING AND SOME OF THE DECISIONS ARE COMING TO LEVEL OF COMMUTE INTO TOWN TO ASK ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW IN THIS CONCLUSION.BHO SOME OF IT IS FROM PARENTS CONCERNED ABOUT CELL TOWERS ON SCHOOLS ARE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD SO THERE’S. MY WAY OF THINKING IT’S STILL A LOT OF SHIRT HE HAD TO BE TO RESEARCHERS AS MORE RESEARCH IS NEEDED. TO GET TO THE LEVEL OF CERTAINTY THAT NEEDED BATH AFTER THE QUESTION WHO DO NEED MORE I THINK SOMETHING LIKE SEVEN MM. SELF DESCRIPTION THAT SOME MAPS OF THE FUR AROUND THE WORLD THE CHECK FOR. ENVIRONMENTAL AGENCY ROUGHLY EVERYONE IS EXPOSED TO THE FOUR PERSON ON THE MUCH MORE CERTAIN. THAT A MISSION TO STOP THEIR GREAT THINK YOU AREN’T TURNING IT OVER TO THE ADDITIONAL PANELISTS REQUESTED BY THE COMMUNITY. DOCTOR DAVIS ARE YOU ON THE LINE I AM GREAT AND I’VE GOT YOUR SLIDES UP AND I’M ON I’M ON THE INTEREST LIE BUT ALL TURNED OVER TO JUST THE SECOND TIME.DOCTOR DAVIS IS THE ISSUE.WE START MIKE ON MY PRESENTATION SLIDE FOR SURE.DOCTOR DAVIS IS THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TRUST.I AM AND I AM ON THE SLIDE. SORRY OOPS WRONG DIRECTION TO SECOND.LET ME START OVER.OKAY UM DO YOU WANNA START ON A SLIGHT COLD MICROWAVE RADIO FREQUENCY RADIATION ARE ONE OF MY FLIGHT NUMBER FOUR SHOULD FACE THE TYPE OF EVIDENCE RELEVANT TO POLICY. OK YOU’RE PART OF THE BROADER SET OF SLIDES THEM INTO GET HIM TO BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE I’M NOT SURE WHAT I CAN DO THERE IS A FIGHT THE FIGHT TO THE POLICY.OK LET ME TRY AND FIND A.I DON’T HAVE A SLIDE THAT. YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT I DON’T KNOW I’M GOING TO BE QUITE LOST. RIGHT LET ME JUST START TALKING AND LET ME ASK YOU TO COME TO THE SLIDE THAT SAYS FEMA EXPOSURE TO RADIO FREQUENCY LIMITS IN NINETEEN NINETY SIX. IT FEATURES KIND OF A BIG GUY’S HEAD WITH A MICROWAVE RADIO FREQUENCY RADIATION.NOPE I POSSESS THE SEASON THE METS OR THE FCC LIMITS ARE OUTDATED YET WE’VE GOT THAT SIDE WITH THE HEAD START WITH THE HEAD GREAT DAY.OKAY I’M I’M A TALKER COLLEGES AND A COLLEAGUE OF JOHN PHAM AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST.THAT MEANS THAT WE STUDY IN TOXICOLOGY ANIMALS IN ORDER TO PREDICT AND PREVENT FUTURE HARM WE DO EXPERIMENT IN CELL CULTURES AND ANIMALS.I’M ALSO AN EPIDEMIOLOGIST WITH THE CLAIMED LOOK AT PATTERNS IN PEOPLE BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT EPIDEMIOLOGY CAN ONLY STUDY THE PAST WHEN IT COMES TO THIS ISSUE. WE CANNOT STUDY THE FUTURE WE CANNOT PREDICT HEART.THERE ARE THREE TYPES OF EVIDENCE WE NEED TO LOOK AT TOXICOLOGY EPIDEMIOLOGY AND EXPOSURE EFFECT THAT MODELING. THE LATTER USING COMPUTERS TO ESTIMATE EXPOSURE OR IN SOME CASES TO ACTUALLY MEASURE IT CORRECTLY WHICH IN THIS CASE MEASURING EXPOSURE INTO THE BRAIN AND BODY IS EFFECTIVELY IMPOSSIBLE. TO WHAT WE DO AND DEADLY AS YOU’LL SEE IN THE ILLUSTRATION HERE IN THE FEC. EXPOSURE LIMITS ARE SET ON A LARGE EMPTY BOWLING BALL CONFIGURATION OF THE HEAD TAKEN FROM A MAN WHO WEIGHED ABOUT TWO OR TWENTY POUNDS. AND TWELVE POUND HEAD AND INTO WHICH LIQUID WITH PORK. AND A COMPUTER GOES INTO IT TO MEASURE THE TEMPERATURE INCREASE IN ORDER TO SEE THAT THE TEMPERATURE DOES NOT RISE ABOVE A CERTAIN LIMIT SET BY THE FEC. THOSE STANDARDS WERE SET IN NINETEEN NINETY SIX. THE GAO IN TWENTY FOURTEEN. OUT OF THE FCC TO CHANGE THOSE STANDARDS TO RE EVALUATE THEM IN LIGHT OF THE EXPOSURE OF BILLIONS OF CHILDREN. AND YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE MUCH SMALLER THAN THAT BIG HEAD START WITH TWENTY TWELVE.THE GAO REPORT AND IN RESPONSE THE FCC DID NOTHING. THE STANDARD REMAINS OUTDATED AT THE TIME THE NEXT SLIDE SHOULD BE AN ANIMATION IT’S NOT A EUROPE ARE YOU ABLE TO BRING IT UP. IT’S NOT AN ANIMATION VIDEO AND I SURE GO AHEAD.DOCTOR DAVIS LIKE LIGHT GREEN WITH DARK GREEN THING IN IT AND THAT OF A KIND OF A BLACK FLAG AT THE BOTTOM ARE YOU ABLE TO FIND THAT NO MA’AM. I REPLIED THAT HE TOO HAS A SCENT THAT ONE PENNY TO PREVENT WHAT WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIKE THE IDEA IS IT INVESTIGATED YEAR UP FIVE G THE MASS EXPERIMENT.OKAY COULD YOU CLICK ON THAT AND RUN THE VIDEO FOR ABOUT ONE MINUTE.YES THE NEWS WITH THE FIVE ZERO THE SOME SAY. THIS WILL BE MORE LIKE AN EXPERIMENT THAT WILL AFFECT TEENS AND FIVE G STANDS FOR FIFTH GENERATION THE SERVICES THE INTERNET WILL BE FASTER THAN EVER.DOWNLOADING HIGH DEFINITION MOVIE WILL TAKE MERE SECONDS. BY TWENTY TWENTY FIVE THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION IS PLANNING FOR THE OLDER URBAN AREAS ACROSS THE CONTINENT TO HAVE SEEN THIS FIGHT COVERAGE ABLE TO ENABLE THE NEW AGE IN THE INTERNET.STEVE STARTED A SMART DRIVER THE SCARS AND SMART HOSPITALS BRIDGES PUPPET MAKERS AND EVEN BE THE WHAT CITIZENS ARE NO. WE’VE STARTED THE VIDEO HOW LONG WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO INTO IT FOR ONE MINUTE TWENTY BUT I CAN HEAR IT RUNNING IT’S THE SOUND THERE WE ARE. TOLD THIS TO HAPPEN HELP BOOST NEW ANTENNAS WILL BE HAD IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WORKPLACES EVEN IN OR WHO’S MORE MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS DANGEROUS.THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY IS INVITED.SOME EXPERTS MEET IN THE RC OTHERS HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS IN TWO THOUSAND AND ELEVEN W H O CLASSIFY ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS ASSOCIATED WITH CELLPHONES AS POSSIBLY CARCINOGENIC TO HUMANS. AND STUDIES PUBLISHED IN TWO THOUSAND THE TEAM SHOULD THAT WHEN RATS WERE EXPOSED TO SUCH DEALS INCREASED RISK OF CERTAIN TYPES OF CANCER EVEN AMONG THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT TECHNOLOGY IS SAFE.MANY ADMIT THAT MORE STUDIES ARE NEEDED FOR FIVE G THERE ALMOST NO STUDIES TOPIC ONE TWENTY NINE.OKAY I THINK WE’RE ABOUT THERE.I CAN SEE THE TIME STEP ON THIS LIVE OSTRICHES WITH THEIR HEAD IN THE FAN. TELECOM COMPANIES THEMSELVES HAVE NOTED THAT ELECTROMAGNETIC SIGNALS MAY POSE HEALTH OF THE SO WHY ARE THE EU COMMISSION AND OUR GOVERNMENT TURNING A BLIND EYE.OK WE’RE AT THE ASTOR DOES OKAY THANK YOU I WANT TO APOLOGIZE I DON’T KNOW WHAT I WILL DO IS MAKE THE CORRECT FLIGHT DECK AVAILABLE TO YOU. COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THE NEXT FLIGHT IS THAT YOU HAVE AN EXCISE AS SMALL CELL ROLL OUT IN THE NAME OF FIVE G FIRST BUILD. BUILD IT ON UTILITIES THE NEWS THAT WITH PRIVATE FUNDS.I CANNOT HEAR YOU I’M SORRY THE SLIDE SAYS SMALL CELL ROLL OUT IN THE NAME OF FIVE G FIRST BUILD IT ON UTILITIES THEN USE IT WITH PRIVATE FUNDS.OK AND WE HAVE AFTER THAT THE US HAS AMONG THE HIGHEST ALLOWABLE RF EXPOSURE LIMITS WORLDWIDE. THAT FOR A MOMENT THAT COMES FROM W H O AND WHAT IT SHOWS IS THAT THE U S STANDARDS. ARE MUCH HIGHER THAN MUCH OF THE WORLD AND IN FACT BULGARIA. AMONG OTHER NATIONS AND SWITZERLAND HAVE MORE STRINGENT AND LOWER STANDARD THAN WE DO. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT FAR GRAPHIC WHAT HE HAD LEFT THE HIGH G DEPLOYMENT WOULD EXCEED RADIATION LIMITS SAY THAT AGAIN.FIVE G DEPLOYMENT WOULD EXCEED RADIATION LIMITS IN CHINA IN DEATH BY COMES FROM ERIC.OKAY AND THAT FLY FROM ERICKSON WAS PRESENTED AT A MEETING TO INDICATE THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO RAISE THE RADIATION LIMIT IS FIVE HE WAS TO WORK IN THOSE COUNTRIES BECAUSE THE EXCLUSION ZONE.I THINK IT WOULD LIFT BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING.THERE IS NO DEBATE THAT THE WORLD NEED FIVE G THE QUESTION IS. NOT TO DO FIVE G OR NOT TO DO FIVE P THE QUESTION IS HOW TO MAKE FIVE G MORE FAITH. AND THERE I THINK WE HAVE A VERY STRONG RATIONALE FOR MAKING FIVE G CHINA IS GENERALLY DOING WIRED TO AND THROUGH PREGNANCY.IF YOU DO THAT HE WILL BE REDUCING YOUR ENERGY COSTS SUBSTANTIALLY.ANALYSTS HAVE SHOWN THAT THE PROJECTED ENERGY IMPACT OF THE INTERNET OF THINGS.IF EDITH WIRELESS WILL CONSUME HALF OF ALL ENERGY CONSUMPTION BY TWENTY THIRTY AND I CAN GIVE YOU REFERENCES TO THAT STATEMENT. SO IF YOU’RE CONCERNED ABOUT CLIMATE IMPACT. THAT IT BEHOOVES YOU TO TAKE A VERY SERIOUS LOOK AT THE QUESTION OF WHETHER YOU COULD MAKE FIVE SHE WIRED TO THREE HOSPITALS AND THE POLICE AND FIRE. AND THE BANK AND THE BUSINESSES THAT NEED IT TO FUNCTION IN THE DENSE URBAN ENVIRONMENTS YOU MAY GET WIRED TO AND THROUGH THE FACILITY AND NOT HAVE WIRELESS.THEN HE WILL BE USED USING LESS ENERGY. AS HE WILL BE REDUCING EXPOSURES THAT WE ARE CONCERNED THAT NOW WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MY COLLEAGUE DOCTOR SAM AND I HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION. I GUESS WITH RESPECT TO WHAT WE NOW KNOW AT THIS TIME ABOUT THE DAMAGING EFFECT OF THREE G AND FOUR G RADIATION. IN SPECIFIC THE NATIONAL TOXICOLOGY PROGRAM AND I SHOULD STATE I WAS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF SCIENTIFIC COUNSELORS. CONCLUDED THAT THERE WAS DNA DAMAGE WITH EXPOSURE TO SNOW ON THE THERMAL LEVELS OF MICROWAVE RADIATION FROM CELL PHONE IN MULTIPLE ORGANS IN THE ANIMAL THAT THEY STUDIED. A SIMILAR FINDING IN THE ITALIAN STUDY AND MORE IMPORTANTLY IN ITALY AS WELL AS IN THE UNITED STATES AND AUSTRALIA CENTERS THAT IT FIVE MEN WITH FERTILITY PROBLEMS. AT HOME AND TO GET THEIR PHONE OUT OF THEIR POCKETS.THE CLEVELAND CLINIC SAYS IF YOU WANT TO FOSTER HEALTHY CHILD. REMOVED A CELL PHONE FROM YOUR BODY AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE ON THE DAMAGING EFFECT OF THAT RADIATION ON FIRM IS SO COMPELLING AND INCLUDE EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE. ON HUMAN SPERM AS WELL AS CROSS SECTIONAL STUDY OF MEN WHO HAD BEEN EXPOSED.I THINK I’M GOOD AT WHAT THE NEXT FLIGHT IS BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW YOU GET. THOUSANDS OF SIMULTANEOUSLY OPERATING IN TENNIS AND I’M JUST AS A WARNING WE’RE COMING CLOSE TO THE TOP OF TEN MINUTES SO IF YOU AND I APPRECIATE THAT.I HOPE YOU CAN APPRECIATE WITHOUT THE RIGHT PROVIDES THERE’S A SLIDE ON BEES AND IT HAS THE DARK SLIDE AND IT FEATURES A GIRL WITH. CNN STUDY LINKED THE DECLINE TO HELP YOU FIND THAT I I’M I’M ON THE SLIDE WITH THESE BUT THE HEADING IS DIFFERENT.CNN STUDY LINKED BE DECLINED IF YOU DON’T HAVE THAT NO MA’AM OKAY WELL THEN LET ME JUST CONCLUDE WITH THEM REMARKED NOW. CLIMATE IMPACTS ARE HUGE FROM THE DIGITAL ECOSYSTEM. AND THE QUESTION IS HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS SYSTEM MORE SAY THERE’S NO DEBATE THAT TWO G THREE G CAN BE HARMFUL TO FIRM AND IN FACT. THERE SHOULD BE A FLIGHT SHOW YOU THAT AS WELL.REINVENTING WIRE TO THE REPORT WAS DONE. BY THE NATIONALIST JEWISH LAW POLICY EXPLAINS WHY A WIRED SYSTEM IS SAFER MORE SECURE PROTECTED FROM CYBERSECURITY AND KEEPS US ALL SAFE WITH RESPECT TO THE EVIDENCE THAT THEOLOGY. PROFESSORS DAMAGE CONFIRM THAT IN THE EYE ARE AFFECTED WITH DON ALMOST A DECADE AGO THERE HAD BEEN TWO MAJOR STUDIES PRODUCED ON CELL PHONES. AND BRAIN KEPT ONE FROM A FRENCH NATIONAL STUDY AND THE OTHER FROM A SERIES OF STUDIES IN SWEDEN. BOTH OF THOSE STUDIES HAVE FOUND THE SAME THING WHICH IS. THOSE WHO USE PHONE FOR LONGER THAN A DECADE OR MORE HAVE THE GREATEST RISK OF BRAIN CANCER AND MORE IMPORTANTLY. THOSE WHO BEGIN USING CELL PHONES AS CHILDREN OR BEFORE THE AGE OF TWENTY HAVE UP TO FOUR TO EIGHT TIMES FOR BRAIN CANCER BY THE TIME THEY REACH ADULTHOOD.NOW THAT IT’S NOT OR IF WE SHOULD TAKE LIGHTLY AND IN LIGHT OF THE FACT. THAT THE SWEDISH STUDY FOUND THAT JUST THIRTY MINUTES OF REGULAR USE OF A CELL PHONE OVER A DECADE THIRTY MINUTES A DAY. PRODUCED A MEASURABLE INCREASE IN RISK AND IF YOU THINK OF WHAT OUR CHILDREN ARE DOING NOWADAYS.CLEARLY THEY ARE AT RISK AND WE WANT TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO PROTECT THEM AND TO PROTECT ALL OF US.BY UNDERSTANDING THAT SHE WILL REVOLUTIONIZE THE ABILITY TO GET INFORMATION WITHOUT ANY QUESTION BUT MAKING IT WIRED TO AND THROUGH THE PREMISE MAKE THE MOST SENSE.TIME NOW FOR THE QUESTION TO MY APOLOGIES THAT THIS LIFE ARE NOT THE ONE THAT I HAD INTENDED.THANK YOU SO MUCH.I AM AND NOW WILL TURN IT OVER TO GRANT WILSON HE IS THE DIRECTING ATTORNEY OF THE EARTH LAW CENTER GRANT CAN HEAR US AND I’VE GOT YOUR FIRST SLIDE. YOUR TITLE SLIDE UP AND YOU CAN HEAR ME.WE CAN GETTHANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. A MAMMOGRAM WORLD AND I’M AN ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER. AND I WROTE A REPORT ON FALSE HEALTH FACILITIES ON BEHALF OF INTERESTED CITIZENS IN BOULDER THAT YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF THE NEXT LIKELY. THROUGHOUT MY CAREER I HAVE LONG FOUGHT BACK AGAINST HARMFUL CORPORATE INTERESTS SEEK TO PREEMPT LOCAL DEMOCRACY. AND THE TEAM WITH GAS AND OIL IN OTHER SECTORS OF THE INDUSTRY OFTEN MA TEACHER LOST A LOT TO PLAY INDUSTRY OVER COMMUNITY IS. EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH SMALL HEALTH AUTHORITIES TO BE USED FOR G. TO ENCOUNTER PUSHING BACK IN SPOKANE BOULDER YEAR AND ARE NOT TIED AN ANCHOR TO BE PROACTIVE AND CREATIVE IN ORDER TO UPHOLD COMMUNITY INTEREST.NEXT I PUT MY OWN WRITING THE COURT TO INFORM BOULDER ABOUT APPROACHES TO REGULATE SMALL FACILITIES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAW. IN PARTICULAR THAT THE ORDER IN A STATEWIDE HB SEVENTEEN NINETY THREE THAT WE HEARD ABOUT THESE TRIM SOME LOCAL CONTROL BUT NOT ALL THAT THERE’S STILL ROOM TO REGULATE. AFTER RESEARCHING THE APPROACHES THAT OTHER PROGRESSIVE TOWN TO TAKE AND RECOMMEND A BOULDER IN TWO THINGS NUMBER ONE THE REGULARLY ALSO FACILITY TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT ALLOWABLE BY LAW. INTO THE V PREPARED TO UPDATE YOU LOST VERY QUICKLY TO REACT TO STATE AND FEDERAL LEGAL CHANGES AS THEY OCCUR.TALK ABOUT THIS MORE BUT FIRST I WAS GOING TO DRAFT A FEW COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS SOME AND GOT OUT QUICKLY REITERATE A MISCONCEPTION WANTED TOMATO FACILITIES ARE SMALL AND LOW IMPACT. CAN BE AS LARGE AS THE REFRIGERATOR AND INSTALLED BY THE HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS. RECENT WALL STREET JOURNAL HEADLINE READ THE DOWNSIDE OF FIVE G OVERWHELM CITIES TORN UP STREET DECADE UNTIL COMPLETION ENCOURAGE ALL TO READ THIS ARTICLE. INTO THE EFFORT TO RETAIN LOCAL CONTROL OVER SMALLER FACILITY THAN A FRINGE MOVEMENT. AND IT IS WRONG DOZENS OR HUNDREDS OVER UNDER THE AUDI THE FCC IN RESPONSE TO THEIR STREAK TO FIVE G ORDER AT RTC IS ALSO TOO MESSY FOR THE SAME. GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN VETOED A STATE LAW IN CALIFORNIA THAT PREEMPT LOCAL CONTROL OVER SOFTBALL FACILITIES.THESE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING NO. NECK THAT CONFESSION IS NOT CONCERNED WITH RADIO FREQUENCY EXPOSURE HUNDRED PERCENT TRUE TO SAY. I’M NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN TO IT AND PREPARING HIS REPORT I DID FIND A LARGE NUMBER OF SCIENTISTS. BELIEVE THAT MAN MADE RF RADIATION SERIOUS CONCERN IN TAXES ARE NOT FULLY UNDERSTOOD AND COULDN’T ID IS NOT ON YOUR WAY TECHNOLOGY. AND ADDITIONALLY NASA AND NOAA AGENCIES EXPRESSED SIGNIFICANT CONCERN THE FIVE G NETWORKS MAY INTERFERE WITH OUR WEATHER PREDICTION ABILITIES ARE NUMEROUS CATEGORIES OF REASONS TO BE CONCERN. COMPASSION FOR THE PURPOSE THAT AIG’S TO BENEFIT FOLDER. SHE DOES OFFER SIGNIFICANT SPEED BOOST. FIBER OF THE BIGGEST WINNER OF THE FIVE G ROLLOUT IS CORPORATION WHOSE REVENUES WILL INCREASE BY LITERALLY TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. COULD BE IN FOR MORE PAID SERVICES ADVERTISING AND DATA COLLECTION. CONCEPTION FIVE BOULDER NEED HYGIENE NOW A GROWING RECOGNITION THAT THERE ARE FIVE ALTERNATIVE MUSICAL MUNICIPAL FIBER OR DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO FIVE JESUS HEARD WHAT MISCONCEPTIONS.THERE’S NOTHING TOWN CAN DO ABOUT IT AND CARRY ME THROUGH MUCH OF YOUR AUTHORITY TO PREEMPT A TEST THAT YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY ONLY REGULATE SMALL FACILITIES BASED ON AESTHETIC STANDARDS. HAS BEEN CHALLENGED IN COURT. AND STILL THERE ARE NUMEROUS WAYS YOU CAN REGULATE SMALL HEALTH AUTHORITIES BEGAN TO KNOW OUR RIGHTS BUT YOU CAN MAKE THE INDUSTRY PLAY BY YOUR RULES. AND LAWS MAY CHANGE THEIR LIFE TO THEIRS PROPOSED FEDERAL LEGISLATION H R FIVE THIRTY.THERE’S POSSIBLY A NEW FCC CHAIRMAN DEPENDING ON WHO AND TWENTY TWENTY PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND IF THE LAW CHANGED TO. A LOT TO THEM ALL BACK TO YOUR FAVOR AND THE INDUSTRY KNOW THAT TOO SO THEY’RE GOING TO INSTALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE YOU SHOULD BE READY TO FACE. CONSIDERING THE BACKGROUND HERE ARE A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS OF OTHERS CONTAINED IN THE REPORT TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.THE OLD ONE OR MORE HEARINGS.I PRAISE YOU FOR TAKING THIS STEP TODAY AND I REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS.I RECOMMEND YOU PASS A STRONG RESOLUTION AND ORDINANCE. AND STRONG IN THE LAW TO EXERCISE LOCAL CONTROL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND THAT REQUIRES APPLICANTS FOR TELEVISION AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES INCLUDING SMALL FELL TO THE EXTREMELY THOROUGH.A FEW SAMPLES FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE ESTABLISHED MINIMUM DISTANCES BETWEEN SMALL HEALTH AUTHORITIES BASED ON ATHLETICS.OK SO LONG AS IT’S REASONABLE TO SOME LOCAL GOVERNMENT ESTABLISHED STEP BACK FROM RESIDENTS IN OTHER PLACES.AGAIN THIS MUST BE REASONABLE.I JUST WANT TO ABIDE BY THE CAR AND HE ALREADY KNEW CANNOT BE BASED ON HUMAN HEALTH IMPACTS THAT YOU CAN REQUIRE ANNUAL RADIO THREE FREQUENCY READING TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL RULE.SOME COMMUNITIES REQUIRE MOCK A PROPOSED FACILITY TO FULLY CONSIDER AESTHETICS FIRE HAZARDS AND THREATS TO ANYTHING HISTORIC. YOU CAN IMPLEMENT A LOT OF OTHER AESTHETIC REQUIREMENTS ALONG AS THEY ARE REASONABLE EVEN THE APPLIED AN OBJECTIVE. THINGS LIKE REQUIRING THE PAINTING OF ATTACHMENTS CONSISTENCY WITH HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD PROVISIONS TO ADDRESS DUE TO ADDRESS VIEWS AND SO FORTH. YOU CAN HAVE A ROBUST NOTIFICATION PROCESS BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW. NOW FROM CITIES HAVE PASSED LAWS AND POSSIBLY RUN AFOUL OF THE FEDERAL FRAMEWORK HAS HAD NO CHOICE. BUT TO REACH BUT NOT PASS THE LEGAL LIMIT TO THE AUNT IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEGAL JUSTIFICATION.I HEARD YOU’RE EITHER A PORTRAIT BY THE CITY ATTORNEY IS ALREADY AVAILABLE TO THE .YOU CAN REQUEST AND DELICIOUS TEA WITH SOME OF THESE PROGRESSIVE COMMUNITIES DIRECTLY UNDER POINT THREE GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY NOT DISCRIMINATE BETWEEN TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES.THIS RUNS AFOUL OF FEDERAL LAW.NUMBER FOUR BE PREPARED TO ACT QUICKLY TO INCREASE LOCAL PROTECTION WHEN THE LEGAL LANDSCAPE CHANGES. AND WHAT TACTICS USED TO PASS THE COMBINATION OF EMERGENCY ORDINANCES NORMAL ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS THAT CAN GO INTO EFFECT QUICKLY IMMEDIATELY. UPDATED QUICKLY AS THE LEGAL LANDSCAPE CHANGES IN HILLSBOROUGH CALIFORNIA TOOK THIS APPROACH AN EX WIFE HE’S SO MUCH ON. NUMBER FIVE ENSURE MAXIMUM USABILITY MORE LIGHT ON FOR EXAMPLE YOU CAN CONSIDER INCLUDING QUALIFYING LANGUAGE AND TERMS THAT ALLOW FOR CHANGES IF THE STATE OR FEDERAL LAWS CHANGE.FOR EXAMPLE AN INCREASE IN RENT FOR USING RIGHT AWAY WHEN SUCH A PERMIT IN ORDER TO CHARGE HER MARK MARKET VALUE IS MORE THAN THE ACTUAL COST TO CHARGE NOW. TALLER THAN IDEAL THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL REVIEW FOR ONE SMALL CELL FACILITY AT FIVE G TO THE DISH IN FOUR G LTE. IN THE STICKS YOU CAN CREATE TELECOMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE EXPERTS TO DISCUSS AND GUIDANCE TO DEVELOP EFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS PEOPLE HERE TODAY. YOU CAN JOIN COALITIONS OF LIKE MINDED GOVERNMENT AND LOOK FOR MODEL. AND TALK TO LIKE MINDED COUNTIES ABOUT THE STRATEGIES MENTIONED IN THE REPORT CALL AND BE OPEN TO NEW APPROACHES TO OVERSEE ANTI G THAT THEY’RE USING. AND FINALLY COLOR CHANGES TO STATE AND FEDERAL LAW COVERING. MANY STATES PASSED INDUSTRY FRIENDLY LAW INDUSTRY FRIENDLY BOUGHT AFTER LOBBYING CAMPAIGNS INCLUDING COLORADO AND SOME AD BUYERS REGRET. OF COLORADO’S ELI WOKE CRAFT A COMPROMISE DOES PERHAPS THE RIGHT TO SAY NO TO THIS IN THE FEDERAL CAN BE CHANGED. AND OLDER CAN JOIN THE GROWING NUMBER OF VOICES SEEKING TO RESTORE LOCAL CONTROL. THE LAST FLIGHT TO THE CONCLUSION FOR EITHER GENDER CONCERNS OVER THE FIVE G ROLLOUT WAS IN ST.EFFORTS TO TREAT LOCAL CONTROL A LOT OF MISINFORMATION AS WELL SO I TAUGHT YOU FOR DOING YOUR RESEARCH.OVERALL ANCHORAGE FOLDER TO PASS A NEW LEGAL FRAMEWORK THAT IS FLEXIBLE TO REACT TO THE LANDSCAPE OF ALL THANK YOU TO PASS THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK THAT HOLDS YOUR VISION FOR BOULDER.NOTE THE TELECOM INDUSTRY ACCOUNTABLE TO THE VERY MAXIMUM EXTENT ALLOWABLE BY LAW. AND ACTING BOLDLY AND WISELY I THINK THAT BOULDER CAN REALLY BE A MODEL FOR HUNDREDS EVEN THOUSANDS OF LIKE MINDED CHEESE ACROSS THE NATION.THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.GREAT I’LL TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL QUESTIONS WITH A THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE PANELISTS FOR STICKING WITHIN THE TEN MINUTE TIME FRAME. WILL EVEN MORE THAN THAT UM WE REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO COME AND SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND MAKE YOURSELF AVAILABLE SO. WE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO ASK AS MANY SQUASHES AS WE LIKE TO TRY TO FIT IN A BUNCH OF SOAP WITH THAT SOME. OF THE PROPOSAL IS TO START WITH HERE’S YOUR TOP PORTION WILL LET EVERYBODY ESTHER TOUGH QUESTION WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT SO DOES ANYBODY. CAN JUMP IN ON IT WAS MENTIONED THAT’S. THE IDEA OF DOING FIBER TO FACILITIES WITHIN FACILITIES IS A WAY TO GET YOUR CAKE WITHOUT A HEALTH AS THEY SAY GET YOUR TICKET TO. GET FIVE HE MISSES A QUESTION ON CAPABILITIES WITHOUT THE RADIATION CONCERNS TO HAVE THAT RIGHT CAN FOLK SPEAK TO THAT THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT ARM. YES SO ONE THING THAT’S VERY COMMON WHEN YOU LOOK AT A CELL TOWER IS THAT. WHEN YOUR PHONE COMMUNICATES WITH SL TERROR CELL TOWER HAS TO GET THE SAME INFORMATION BACK INTO THE CORE NETWORK AND WHATEVER ELSE IS GOING TO WRITE. THAT CONNECTION FROM THE CELL TOWER INTO THE CORE NETWORK IS THE BACK ALL RIGHT THAT’S. I THINK THAT’S WHAT WAS BEING REFERRED TO HIM IS THAT THE CONNECTION INTO THAT FIVE G SMALL CELL. COULD BE WIRED RATHER THAN ACTUALLY BEING A WIRELESS LINK FENCE THAT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF RADIATION RIGHT THAT YOU’RE ACTUALLY DOING BECAUSE YOU’RE DOING A WIRE FOR THE BACK.NOW THAT’S ACTUALLY TYPICAL TO SEE TRENCH FIRE OR SOMETHING ELSE USED BECAUSE IT’S EXTRAORDINARILY EXPENSIVE. TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY. AND SO BUT THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW FEASIBLE IS THAT. IF YOU’RE INSTALLING SMALL CELLS FOR FIVE G IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS YOU KNOW AND EVERY TODAY HOMES RIGHT OF MAKING SURE THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE. INSUFFICIENT BACK ALRIGHT AND THAT THE WIRE THAT YOU’RE PUTTING INTO THAT FACILITY HAS ENOUGH BANDWIDTH RATE THAT YOU CAN DO ENOUGH WITH IT ACTUALLY CAN SERVE WHATEVER THE CAUSE. BY G DEVICES ARE THAT ARE ACTUALLY INSIDE THE FACILITY CAN ABSOLUTELY BE TO VENTURE QUESTION. SO WHAT INFORMATION THE STOCK TODAY THAT IT’S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FIVE G PHONES WILL HAVE TO USE FOUR G FOR VOICE RIGHT NOW.I MEAN EVEN WHEN LTE WAS ORIGINALLY DEPLOYED. THEY USED THREE G TECHNOLOGY FOR VOICE IT WAS CALLED CIRCUS WHICH ALL BACK AND TELLING LTE WAS SUFFICIENTLY MATURE ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY SWITCH OVER TO VOICE OVER LTE HERBAL TEA.REALLY I THINK THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU’RE GOING TO DO VOICE ON FIVE G COM IS GOING TO BE A COVERAGE QUESTION NOT A TECHNOLOGY CAPABILITY QUESTION. BECAUSE FIVE G IS GOING TO BE VERY RELIABLE IT’S GOING TO BE HIGHER PERFORMING A SKIT HAVE BETTER LATENCY THAN YOU OUT WITH LT AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE ACTUALLY BETTER FOR VOICE NOT WORSE AND SO I THINK YOU KNOW YOUR USE OF FIVE G FOR VOICE IS REALLY A COVERAGE ISSUE FIRST.NOT A TECHNOLOGY ISSUE AND MAYBE FALL DAY. OK THAT’S MY QUESTION TO MY CORRECTIONS TO YOUR EDWARD SCISSOR YOU BRIEFLY WHAT WE’RE DOING NOW.REGARDLESS OF WHETHER TO FORGE YOUR FIVE G YOU ARE STILL DEVELOPMENT PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS STILL REGULATING PLACEMENT LOCATIONS FOR WHETHER THIS POMPOUS FALSE IMAGES MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. THE SMALL CELLS THAT YOU’RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT FOURTEEN O FIVE G CORRECT CORRECT BUT YOU’RE GETTING AN AWFUL LOT OF APPLICATIONS ONE FIFTY TWO. FROM THE LAST YEAR SO THOSE ARE STILL BEING REGULATED BY THE USER SPACE SAYING IS THAT ALL AESTHETICS WHAT KIND OF METRICS ARE USING TO DICTATE WHERE THE SMALL CELLS COHEN BOULDER.SO THERE’S A NUMBER OF THINGS IN OUR COAT.THERE ARE MINIMUM SPACING REQUIREMENTS THEIR AESTHETIC REQUIREMENTS WE DO REQUIRE EACH APPLICATION TO DO THREE D VISUAL MODELING TO SHOW WHAT WILL LOOK LIKE. WE REQUIRE ALL UTILITIES BE DEPICTED HAVE TO MEET CITY STANDARDS FOR THE SPACING BETWEEN UTILITIES AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE WERE NOT SMALL CELL.WE LOOK AT HIM FROM A STRUCTURAL STANDPOINT FROM THE BUILDING PERMIT.LOOK AT HIM FROM A COLOR FOR MATCHING IF THEY’RE IN HISTORICAL DISTRICT AFTER GO THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR HISTORIC REVIEW THE STAFF LEVEL PROCESS TO ENSURE THEY ARE COMPATIBLE WITH HISTORIC DISTRICT.WE LOOK AT FLOOD PLAIN REGULATIONS AND THE IMPLICATIONS TO. ANY OF THESE THAT ARE PLACED WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN THE SAME THINGS ARE LOOKED AT WHETHER IT’S SMALL CELL BUT TO THEM THE RIGHT OF WAY OR AT THE BUILDING PLACEMENT. FOR THE PRIVATE ONES WHICH WE’VE SEEN FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME HERE WE LOOK THROUGH ALL OF THOSE. THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS ON THE SMALL CELL IN TERMS OF RESIDENTIAL CLOSE TO THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE TO THE PLACED IN FRONT OF HOMES.I’M A LARGE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE ALL PRETTY MUCH ACTUALLY IN THE REVISED CODE. IN AND WE SUPPLEMENT WITH ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTION FOR THE APPLICATIONS FOR THE APPLICANT COMPLETE. OR EVEN IN THE FACE OF FEDERAL AND STATE PREEMPTION YOU’VE BEEN ABLE TO COME UP WITH. A WAY TO MAINTAIN MOST OF THE INTENTION OF OUR RULES EVEN THOUGH YOU MAY HAVE HAD TO JUST BE SORE OR SCHEDULE SO THAT YEAR ON THE SHOT CLOCK MAKE THE APPLICATION CORRECT.WE HAVE NOT ADJUSTED FEES AT THIS POINT BUT THAT WOULD TAKE THE COUNCIL ACTION WE’RE DOING MURPH.THE STUDY’S OVERALL RIGHT NOW FOR PLANNING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE SET WITHIN. RECOVERING THE COSTS AND THIS WILL BE ONE OF THOSE SETS LOOKED AT IN THIS KIND OF A SEPARATE QUESTION.MAYBE CAN TELL ME JUST FOLLOWING UP ON.WE CURRENTLY BOULDER IS ENGAGED AND WERE COMMERCIAL WHERE THE CITIES WITH THE COT CAR INITIALLY AND AS YOU RE. TRYING TO GET THESE CHANGED BOTH THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL CORRECT. AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL YES I’M NOT AWARE OF ANY EFFORT BY C M L OR C C U A TO CHANGE THE STATE LAW THAT SPORT.THANK YOU AND CRY WOLF AND THERE ARE AT NEW YEARS WHO ARE LOOKING INTO CHANGING STATE LAW THAT CAMPAIGN WOULD BE IN COLORADO MANY OTHER STATES PASSED A LAW.MAYBE THE OTHER STATES BUT NOT TO MENTION PREEMPT IN ANY COMMUNITY WRITES THAT SOME TOWNS WAS TO RESTORE SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WORK AND BOUGHT A SECOND MORE ABOUT THEIR EFFORTS.I’M THINKING THIS IS FOR EDWARD AND IT’S KIND OF FOLLOW UP TO SAM’S QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE CO LOCATION VERSUS STAND ALONE.IT SOUNDS LIKE IN THE HOME.PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG IT SOUNDS LIKE IN THE CASE OF CO LOCATION A LOT OF WHAT YOU ENUMERATED IN THE PREVIOUS RESPONSE TO SAM ARE ADDRESSED. COME WITH THAT LIKE MR. FELDMAN SAID YOU TAKE REFRIGERATOR BE SPLIT INTO FIVE AND YOU CAN’T CO LOCATED IS THAT TRUE.SO WHAT WE’RE SEEING HIM CO LOCATION. AND IT’S OF A VARIABLE OF WHAT THE DEFINITION OF CO LOCATION SO FOR US. WE’RE LOOKING AT IT FROM ARE THEY REPLACING EXISTING VERTICAL INFRASTRUCTURE BUT WE’VE SEEN FOR THOSE OPTIONS RIGHT NOW REPLACING EXISTING STREET LIGHT POLES AND A HANDFUL OF THESE APPLICATIONS. WITH A NEW POLL THAT CAN INTEGRATE EQUIPMENT WITHIN THE BASE AND THE ANTENNAS ATOP OUR CODE ENCOURAGES THAT TYPE OF THING.BY REDUCING OR ELIMINATING THE SPACING REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO TRY AND GIVE SOME REASONABLE PUSH TOWARDS THAT KIND OF CO LOCATION TO REPLACE ONE EXISTING. VERTICAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO TRY AND LIMIT THE NUMBER OF NEW POLLS IN THE ADDITIONAL VISUAL CLUTTER THAT WILL BRING WITH IT SO THAT’S WHERE. THE CODE AT LEAST INCENTIVIZE IS THROUGH SOME LESSENING OF THE REGULATIONS AND SPACING REQUIREMENTS THAT CO LOCATION TO REPLACE THE EXISTING FACILITY. AND IN SO THAT’S THAT THAT ALL GOES TO ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW CRACKED AND IS IT POSSIBLE THAT FOR EXAMPLE LIKE A STANDALONE POLL THAT ONE EXCEEDED IN HOME OR GOING UP TO FIFTY FIVE FEET.UM WOULD IT COULD GO THROUGH ON SITE REVIEW. SO WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE STANDALONE POLLS TO. HIGH TAIL OUT IN THE LAND USE CODE OR THIRTY FEET IN RESIDENTIAL SO THEY CANNOT GET TO FIFTY FEET THERE’S NOT A PROVISION FOR THAT. BY OUR OWN CODE IT STRIPS THE REGULATION OF SMALL CELL SO IT IS LIMITED TO THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE HEIGHT IN HIS OWN DISTRICT YOU. WILL JUST KEEP ORDER BUT I DON’T CARE WHO GRABBED THE MIKE SO THEY THINK EVAN AND I HAVE QUESTIONS MOSTLY FROM SOME OF KENT’S COMMENTS IN GREEN.WILSON’S COMMENT AND YOU EDWARD BOONE WITH RESPECT TO SPACING AND THERE SEEMS TO BE. DO WE HAVE A STANDARD FOR SPACING IN THE CITY IN WHAT IS THERE AND DOES SET SPACE THINK WHEN SOMEBODY COMES INTO YOU LOOK IN SEE IF THERE. IS EVIDENCE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A CELL FACILITY IN THAT LOCATION OR IS IT ALREADY ADEQUATE FOR THAT.SO IN OUR COAT THE SPACE REQUIREMENTS ON THE SMALL CELL.I MEAN FAIR NOT REPLACING EXISTING VERTICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THE MINIMUM OF SIX HUNDRED FEET BETWEEN THE POLES OF THE NEW DEVICES AND WHAT IS IT BASED ON. BASED UPON LOOKING AT THE PRACTICES OTHERS ARE ALSO USING AT THE TIME THAT WE DEVELOPED OUR ORDINANCE SOMETHING THAT. WE FELT WOULD LIKELY BE CONSIDERED AS PROHIBITING THE CARE THE USE OF FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF FOUR.SORRY TO INTERRUPT I ACTUALLY KNOW OR THAT SIX HUNDRED FEET CAME FROM THAT I WAS IN THE MEETING. WAS ANOTHER FRONT RANGE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY MANAGER SAID WE’RE GOING TO PUT A SEPARATION A REQUIREMENT. FOR SEPARATION OBLIGATION BETWEEN TWO STANDALONE NEW POSTS OR NOT PUTTING THEM ON STREET LIGHTS OR UTILITY POLES BUT NEW POLLS CITY MANAGER SAID SIX HUNDRED FEET ABOUT THE SIZE OF A CITY BLOCK.WE CAN LIVE WITH ONE OF THESE BLOCK BUT IF WE GO SIX HUNDRED FEET WE WON’T HAVE A PROLIFERATION OF THEM ON MULTIPLE POSTS ON A RESIDENTIAL BLOCK.IT’S FREE AND THIS IS GREAT WEALTH AND THE DIFFERENT TOWNS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT. STANDARDS FOR THIS LOT ARE FIVE HUNDRED TWO THOUSAND FEET OR MORE HIGHER YOU GET THE CLOSER. YOU GET TOWARDS THAT MATERIALLY INHIBITS THE PROVISION OF SERVICES STANDARD LOT IS NEW TO THE THOUSANDS HE IS WITHIN THAT RANGE AGAIN I ENCOURAGE YOU TO READ THE CITY ATTORNEY REPORTS THAT JUSTIFICATION. BASICALLY IF YOU CAN HAVE A COUPLE FACILITIES AND NOT A GAP IN COVERAGE BETWEEN THE TWO THOUSAND SHE AND I WILL PRESUMABLY BE ALLOWABLE UNDER THE STC TEST THINK YOU. THIS IS KEVIN GIFFORD I WANT TO SAY ONE THING JUST FOR LITTLE INJECT A LITTLE BITTER REALISM IN TERMS OF THE SIZE OF FIVE SHE RADIOS AND ANTENNAS.I WAS DOWN AT NOKIA CUSTOM FIVE GT S FACILITY JUST TWO WEEKS AGO. THE RADIOS ARE ON THE SIZE OF ONE CUBIC FOOT SO THAT WE WERE TALKING TWENTY EIGHT CUBIC FEET WERE BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION.THE RADIOS ARE REALLY ON SIZE ONE CUBIC FOOT. AND THE ANTENNAS AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO LIVE ON THE POLE THE SIZE OF A WIDER PICTURE. TO GET OUT TO THESE WATER PITCHER SIZED ANTENNAS ON THE SIDE TO PULL PROVIDING THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY DEGREE COVERAGE SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO EVERYBODY.THE IDEA OF TWENTY EIGHT CUBIC FOOT IS IS. IS THE MAXIMUM THE FCC A SANE BUT IN REALITY THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS MUCH SMALLER SO IT IS CONTINUING IN THIS VEIN IN. NOW LOOKING AT ZONING AND DO WE OR IS IT POSSIBLE IN THE STATE FOR ANYTHING TO PRIORITIZE. YOUR ZONING YOUR PREFERENCE FOR YOUR LOCATION SO THAT MAYBE YOU CHOOSE INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL OVER RESIDENTIAL OR HIS STORE. IN MY EXPERIENCE YES IT’S OK TO PRIORITIZE AND THERE’S DIFFERENT KINDS OF PARTIES A SIAN SO. BEFORE I GET TO THE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS YOU COMPARE OUR TIME TO SAY WE’D RATHER HAVE ME GO ON AN EXISTING POLE LIKE AN XL POST RELATE. OR REPLACEMENTS TREE LIGHT VERSUS PUT UP A STANDALONE POLL WOULD RATHER HAVE YOU GONE EXISTING TRAFFIC TO YOUR SOMETHING EXISTING VERTICAL INFRASTRUCTURE SO WE. MINIMIZE POPE A LIBERATION AS FAR AS PRIORITIZING ZONING DISTRICT AND WE’VE TRADITIONALLY DONE THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT WITH THE TRADITIONAL CELL TOWERS. YOU CAN DO IT AND I’LL DEFER TO THE SCIENTIFIC EXPERTS FOR HOW THE SMALL CELL TECHNOLOGY WORKS BUT IT’S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT. IF IN DOING SO YOU WOULD SAY WOULD RATHER HAVE YOU PUT IT IN THESE OTHER DISTRICTS AND NOT PUT ANYTHING SMALL CELL IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.YOU MIGHT BE PRECLUDED IN THE ABILITY TO HAVE ANY KIND OF FIVE G COVERAGE WHEN IT FINALLY GETS HER IN A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAY. PUT IT ON THE ARTERIAL STREET ADJACENT TO THAT RESULT IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AS OPPOSED TO A NEIGHBORHOOD STREET BUT YOU’RE STILL IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE DISTRICT. AND IS GOING GREAT I CAN ADD A LITTLE BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF WHAT WE’VE SEEN IN WORKING WITH. SOME OF THE APPLICANTS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE MOST DESIRABLE LOCATION ON THE SMALL CELL.TYPICALLY THEY’RE WORKING WITH AND NO MORE THAN A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET. IF THEY CAN MOVE THINGS WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO FILL THE GAPS IN THEIR COVERAGE. WHICH IS OF COURSE A LOT DIFFERENT MACRO UNITS THAT COVER MULTIPLE MILES SO. AT SOME OF THOSE AT LEAST PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS HAVE TO PUT IT HERE VERSES HERE AND THEY SHARE. WITH US BUT THEY’RE LOOKING OUT FROM THEIR OWN COVERAGE STUDY IN THE LOCATIONS THAT CAN PUT IT ARE FAIRLY LIMITED. IN JUST MY FINAL QUESTION IS DOES THE UTILITIES COMMISSION HAVE ANY SAY OR ANY ROLE IN LOCATION OR. KNOWN OF THE RADIATION IN ORDER OF FREQUENCY YOU ARE ANYTHING LIKE. THE PUC IF THEY TRIED TO GET INVOLVED IN THE RF EMISSIONS ISSUE WOULD BE PLANTED IN THE SAME WAY THE LOCALITIES ARE BASED UPON THE FIELD PREEMPTION THE FEDERAL STATUTE. AS FAR AS OTHER KINDS OF REGULATION OF THE SERVICES IN TWO THOUSAND AND FOURTEEN. THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PRETTY MUCH THE REGULATED EVERYTHING BROADBAND. SO THE PUC NO LONGER IS REQUIRED TO ISSUE EVEN CERTIFICATES OF CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY FOR COMPANIES THAT WANT TO BECOME IAS PEAS OR OR VOICE PROVIDERS. THERE IS ALMOST NOTHING OTHER THAN NINE ONE ONE SERVICE AND STATE HIGH COST FUND THAT THE PUC AS ANY ROLE IN ANYMORE.WELL THANK YOU RHONDA MENTIONED WITH REGARD TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION I WANTED TO LOOK AT IS. THE WASHINGTON TEAM THAT THEY HAVE A TIERED SYSTEM FOR THE NINE DISTRICTS IN THE LOWER RANK LOCATION DOES. NOT TECHNICALLY FEASIBLE ONLY IN THE CASE CAN THEY INSTALL IN CERTAIN OTHER LOCATIONS THAT ARE LESS DESIRABLE. THAT’S ONE PLACE TO LOOK AT THE MODEL.ANOTHER OPTION IS THAT YOU PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN PLACE AND THE LAW CHANGES THAT BAN IN CERTAIN AREAS IS ALLOWED ON DESIRABLE TO CHANGE YOUR CODE AT THE POINT.IN SHORT ORDER SHE MODELED TO LOOK AT THE TURN THE REPORTER THINK YOU ARE. MY QUESTIONS FOR DOCTOR DAVIS AND DAVIS MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT. THE INCREASE AND WAS AT RISK OF BRAIN CANCER IN CHILDREN CAN CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT AND WHAT THAT IF YOU COULD JUST REPEAT THAT POINT POLICE TO START.CERTAINLY DOCTOR SEVEN INDICATED THERE IS A LARGE STUDY UNDERWAY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BEEN COMPLETED ON BRAIN CANCER IN CHILDREN IN EUROPE CALLED MOBY KIDS. BUT THERE HAS BEEN ONE PUBLICATION AS A SERIES OF REPORTS FROM SWEDEN FROM LEATHER HARD GAL THAT HAS FOUND. THAT THOSE WHO BEGIN TO USE CELLPHONES BEFORE AGE TWENTY AND HE TOLD ME MANY OF THEM STARTED TO USE IT FOR A TEN. WEEK IN TEN YEARS HAVE FOUR TIMES MORE BRAIN CANCER THAN OTHERS. AND THERE’S EVIDENCE THAT THE RISK MIGHT BE AS HIGH AS EIGHT FOLD UNDER SOME CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MEANS. EIGHT TIMES HIGHER RISK OF GETTING A MALIGNANT CLEO MONTH WHEN EXPOSURE START VERY YOUNG IN LIFE THAT I SHOULD I SHOULD ADD THAT AT THE EPIDEMIOLOGIST I CAN TELL YOU THAT DOCTOR PHAM SAID.WE DON’T KNOW WE’RE NOT SURE BUT WE ARE SURE THAT THE TOXICOLOGY SHOWS DAMAGE TO THE DNA AND I CAN GIVE YOU REFERENCES TO ALL OF THOSE. AND I WITH I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED MY REBUTTAL TO WILLIAM BROAD THE NEW YORK TIMES IS THAT CORRECT YES. AND YOU WILL SEE THEIR LINKS TO SPECIFIC STUDIES. WHICH HAVE DEMONSTRATED THE PARTICULAR POINT THAT I MAKE IN THAT. I CAN SIMILARLY PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION ON THE BRAIN KEPT RIPPING THE ONLY STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED SINCE THE INNER FROM STUDY THAT DOCTOR SAM AND REFERRED TO. THE AIR FORCE STUDY WAS COMPLETED SHORTLY PUBLISH SHORTLY AFTER THE IRAQ MONOGRAPH AND IT DID SHOW SOME INCREASE IN RISK.OVERALL HOWEVER WITHIN THE STUDY APPENDIX TO SHOW THAT WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE HYATT FUTURES FOR THE AGAIN THE LONGEST TIME TEN YEARS OR MORE.THERE WAS A DOUBLED RISK IN SOME CIRCUMSTANCES SHOW DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT THE DATA FOUND. STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN RISK WITHOUT QUESTION. BUT ONLY FOR THOSE WHO WOULD USE PHONES FOR THE LONGEST MOST CONSISTENTLY AND REMEMBER AS HE POINTED OUT THAT PHONES BED FOR TWO G AND MAYBE. STARTING THREE T BUT MOSTLY THEY WERE OLDER PHONE.NOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM OF THE NEWER PHONE AND WHILE THE NEWER PHONES USE LESS POWER. IT IS THE BELIEF OF MANY TALK TO COLLEGE IT’S THAT IT’S NOT THE POWER OF THE SIGNAL. THAT IS IF MOST BIOLOGICALLY IMPORTANT COMPONENT IS THE FREQUENCY OF THE POLL AND BY THAT I MEAN THE FREQUENCY IS HOW MANY BEATS MINUTE SECOND.SO FOR EXAMPLE G G S NINE HUNDRED MILLION CYCLES SECOND. OF FOUR G IS A TWO POINT FOUR BILLION CYCLES A SECOND AND FIVE T OF COURSE WILL BE SIX BILLION IN HIGHER BUT THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO REALIZE. WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT LOW BAND. BY THE ANTENNAS ARE GOING TO BRING. BEFORE G AND SOMETIMES THREE G SIGNALS RIGHT. CLOSE TO WHERE EVER YOU ALLOW THEM TO BE. DOCTOR I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING BUT MY QUESTION WAS WAS NARROWER THAN THAT AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE TOWERS WILL BE CLOSER TO PEOPLE BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT.COULD YOU SEND US THE SWEETEST A REFERENCE TO THE SWEDISH CITIES DON’T THINK I CAME ACROSS THAT MY ORIGINAL RESEARCH BUT IS ONE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU THAT. EVERY SCENE AND THE INCIDENCE OF BRAIN CANCER OVERALL INCREASE OVER THE LAST TWENTY YEARS COME THE GENERAL POPULATION DURING THE TIME TO COME CELLPHONE USAGE. HAS ASSOCIATED WITH RADIATION HAS A LATENCY OF ABOUT FORTY YEARS ACCORDING TO STUDIES THAT WERE DONE SURVIVORS OF HIROSHIMA.SO IF YOU ASK WHAT PROPORTION OF THE U S POPULATION WAS USING CELL PHONES HEAVILY AND NOT UNTIL QUITE RECENTLY.PERHAPS TEN YEARS AGO WHERE MOST PEOPLE USING CELL PHONES MUCH AS MUCH AS WE DO NOW.REMEMBER WHEN SHOWS WERE VERY EXPENSIVE AND YOU DIDN’T USE THEM MUCH AT ALL AND YOU ARE VERY MINDFUL OF HOW MUCH EVERYTHING COSTS THAT CHANGED RADICALLY.WE DON’T SEE AN INCREASE IN BRAIN CANCER THE GENERAL POPULATION AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WE DON’T EXPECT TO GIVEN THE LONG LATENCY OF THE DISEASE. AT A RELATIVELY SMALL PROPORTION OF THE POPULATION THAT EXPOSED HEAVILY TO CELLPHONE RADIATION.HOWEVER WHAT WE DO SEE ACCORDING TO THE CDC UNUSUAL INCREASES IN CERTAIN CANCERS IN CHILDREN. INCLUDING MOST RECENTLY UNFORTUNATELY A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN RECTAL CANCER IN PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF FORTY ACCORDING TO THE CDC.THERE’S A FOUR FOLD INCREASE IN RECTAL CANCER IN THE PAST DECADE IN YOUNGER ADULTS AND NO ONE HAS AN EXPLANATION FOR IT.OK SO IT WOULD STAND IN THE ANSWERS NO NOT YET BUT POTENTIALLY COULD BE IN THE FUTURE. SAID THAT’S CORRECT WE ARE NOTHING INCREASES AND OTHER CANCERS THAT MIGHT PLAUSIBLY BE ASSOCIATED FOR EXAMPLE WITH THE PRACTICE OF MANY YOUNG PEOPLE.CELL PHONES IN THE POCKETS OF A VERY TIGHT CLOTHING NEVER GOOD IDEA.OK THANK YOU SO MUCH KATE AT THE GATE CITY AND THEN YOU WILL. COME THIS IS A PHYSICS QUESTION TO HIM FOR WHOEVER CAN ANSWER IT. DOES COME FALL AND AARON SINCE I LOVE THE MEDICAL STUDIES RELATE TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE CELL PHONE TO HER AS PART OF YOUR BODY.UM BUT I THINK WE WERE PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON HIS GOVERNMENT REGULATION. OF SMALL CELLS THAT IS THE TOWERS THAT ACTUALLY BROADCASTS NOT THIS NOT SURE WHICH JURISDICTION CITIES WILL HAVE OVER HOW CLOSELY PEOPLE CAN. HOLD THE PHONES THE YEARS IT WOULD POP OPEN AND AND UM SO MY UNDERSTANDING FROM HIGH SCHOOL PHYSICS IS THAT. THE IMPACT OF A RADIATING ITEM WHATEVER THAT RADIATION IS. IS AN INVERSE OF THE SQUARE THE DISTANCE IN OTHER WORDS SOMETHING IS TWICE AS FAR AWAY AS ONE QUARTER THE IMPACT SOMETHING IS THREE TIMES FOR WEI. WON NINE OF THE IMPACT IS HIS MIND AND MEMORY OF PHYSICS CORRECT IN THAT REGARDS.YES THAT’S CORRECT OKAY SO SOMEONE WHO’S. SO IN THE STUDIES REFOCUS ON ON THE ON THE PHONE IN THE PROXIMITY OF THE BODY. BUT WE’RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT WE WOULD WE REALLY SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON ITS REGULATORY AUTHORITY. GET SOME RELAYS TO THE TOWERS ARE THE CELLS THEMSELVES AS THE PROXIMITY OF PEOPLE TO THE TOWERS OF THE CELLS NOW SO MUCH THE FAWNS ARE CORRECT.YEAH BUT KEEP IN MIND TRY TO UM YOU WOULDN’T HAVE THE CELL PHONE.NEXT YOUR BODY IF THAT WASN’T TOWER THAT COULD ACTUALLY SERVE IT.NO I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT PRESUMABLY WERE NOT TO ROLL BACK THE CLOCK AND IT’S SO FUN SO WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE THE QUESTION IS IS IS UM. UNIVERSAL RUIN THE PLAN HAS A CELL PHONE NOW WERE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE POINT OF SATURATION.THE QUESTION I THINK THAT WE’RE GRAPPLING WITH HIS TIX WE EVER GET REGULATORY AUTHORITY OVER CELL TOWERS OR SELL SMALL CELLS. IS SOME WHAT CAN WE CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT WHAT THE HEALTH IMPACTS OF THOSE ARE I GET THE FACT THAT IF SHE SUDDENLY WENT AWAY.PEOPLE WOULDN’T HAVE FIVE TREES ON THE PHONE BUT THIS WILL BE USING THEIR PHONE TO FOUR G OR WHATEVER TECHNOLOGY EXISTED TO THE FIRST OPTION. YEAH I THINK YOU KNOW THAT THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THE USES OF FIVE G. IS THAT YOU MAY SEE. CHANGES AND PHYSICAL STRUCTURE OF THE DEVICES THAT ARE ACTUALLY USED RIGHT AND FIVE E LOT OF I O T IS GOING TO BE IN SENSORS THAT ACTUALLY. MIGHT BE CARRIED ON THE PERSON MIGHT SEE MORE INDUSTRIAL MIGHT BE IN MEDICAL FACILITIES AND SO YOU KNOW EVEN KNOW WHERE YOU HOLD YOUR CELL PHONE TODAY. AND I WOULD SAY THAT MY USE OF A SO FUN ONE WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.WRIGHT WAS HERE MY KIDS ARE HERE RIGHT AND SO EVEN THE CHANGE OF LOCATION OF THE USE THE CELLPHONE HAS A CHANGE IN THE IMPACT OF RADIATION ON THE BODY.SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IS TO ALSO SAY I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS BECAUSE AFTER SOME MISCONCEPTION.UM I BELIEVE YOU ARE SAYING YOU’RE MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE RADIATION FROM THE CELL COWERED IN THE CELL PHONE NOT TRUE SIR. WHAT WE CAN BE READ ABOUT BOTH BUT I THINK UM AS A GOVERNMENT WHO ARE PROBABLY MORE LIKELY TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH REAL AUTHORITY OF THE TOWER RATHER THAN THE PHONE.YES I AGREE BUT WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO YOU IS THAT THERE’S A LOT MORE RADIATION FROM YOUR PHONE FROM CELCOM.OK NOT REALLY WHAT I WANT TO POINT OUT AS WE’VE ALL SAID AND DOCTOR DAVIS SAID THIS WELL. YOU KNOW HOLD YOUR PHONE AWAY FROM YOU IS FROM A BEST PRACTICE. BUCKS SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT GUARD OUT SHOTS WERE MUCH MORE A MILLION MORE. PROBABLY A MILLION TIMES MORE RADIATION COMES FROM PULLING YOUR PHONE THEN YOU GET FROM THE CELL TOWER SO SO SO IT’S BOTH. ARE MAKING WITH A DOUBLE IN THE POINT WHICH IS WHICH IS THE PHONE IS MORE DANGEROUS THAN POWER AND ALSO TO. OUR ABILITY TO REGULATE PHONES IS MUCH LESS THAN WOULD BE OVER TWO HOURS YES OR OK THANKS. THE SITE EMAIL US.OK CINDYSO I JUST WHEN. I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THIS TRADITION YOU SAID HER DOCTOR FEASTS AND MR.. YU SAID THAT YOU WERE IN ITALY WHEN FIVE G WAS ROLLED OUT YET THERE ARE OTHER EUROPEAN COMPANY COUNTRIES WHO HAVE DELAYED THAT ROLLOUT CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT. WINDOW WHEN I WAS IN ITALY IT WAS BASICALLY AN ITALIAN OPERATOR WANTING TO GET THAT FROM FIRST CITY WIDE COVERAGE FOR FIVE G AND SO WAS VERY MUCH MARKETING. NICER THEY CAN SPEAK TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DELAYING. THE ROLLOUT OF FIVE GA THINK THERE’S A LOT OF UM A LOT OF MOVING PARTS WHAT TO SAY. BOTH FROM A PHYSICAL PERSPECTIVE THE BUILDING IF I G IN THE SOURCE OF EQUIPMENT AS WELL AS POLICIES THAT. THE MUNICIPALITY SEE IN CITIES LIKE COMPUTER WOULD ACTUALLY I REACHED I WAS THINKING OF SWITZERLAND AND BELGIUM.ACTUALLY I DO APOLOGIZE I DON’T HAVE SPECIFIC KNOWS ANYONE UP THERE HAVE ANY INFORMATION.SO UM AND JUST LOOKING BACK IN THE HISTORY OF THIS ARE THE FCC REGS AND THE THERE’S THE STATE. ELEVEN NINETY THREE AND MR. FELDMAN YOU WERE REPRESENTING THE CITY OF BOULDER AND DID I UNDERSTAND YOU SAY YOU DON’T KNOW OF ANY PUSH BACK ACROSS THE STATE AGAINST ELEVEN NINETY THREE. THIS IS HOUSE BILL SEVENTEEN ELEVEN NINETY THREE SHOW I SERVE AS GENERAL COUNSEL TO THE CC UA AND THAT A TRADE ASSOCIATION JUST LIKE SAMBAL THEY WORK WITH C M L AND TELECOM ISSUES.COLOR ME BORROW HIS BLEAK THANK YOU. BOULDER IS A MEMBER SO AT LEAST INDIRECTLY BOULDER WAS A PART OF THAT ACTIVITY AND WE’RE INVOLVED IN THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CNA LOBBYIST IN THIS LEAGUE LOBBYIST CARROLL COUNTY’S LOBBYISTS.I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY EFFORT BY THE MUNICIPAL LEAGUE. OR BY A COLORADO COUNTIES OR BY THE COLOR OF COMMUNICATIONS AND UTILITY ALLIANCE OR ANY OF THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE MAKING AN EFFORT TO TRY TO CHANGE.HOUSE BILL ELEVEN NINETY THREE AND WHILE I HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR MR. WILSON’S REPORT AND THE RESEARCH THAT HE’S DONE TO DATE. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE ON ONE POINT AND WOULD ARGUE THAT BECAUSE POLICE LOCAL POLICE POWERS. WERE PRESERVED IN OUR STATE BILL IF WE DIDN’T HAVE A STATE BILL. WE WOULD BE WORSE OFF TODAY BECAUSE UNLIKE CALIFORNIA WHICH HAD A TERRIBLE STATE BILL PROPOSE AND I’M GLAD GOVERNOR BROWN VETOED IT.OUR BILL PRESERVES OUR POLICE POWER AND PRESERVES OUR ZONING AUTHORITY. OTHER THAN MAKING THESE THINGS THAT USE BY RIGHT TO IT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY IN TURNING THESE THINGS DOWN IF WE DIDN’T HAVE THE STATE LAW WE WOULD DEFAULT. TO THE FCC RULE SO AS LONG AS THOSE RULES ARE IN EFFECT I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY TO CONTROL CITING.THEN WE WOULD HAVE UNDER JUST THE FCC RULES SO I SHOWING THIS CAME BEFORE DID YOU BRIEF THE CC UAE ABOUT THE LIMITATIONS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT WAS ALEC. THE AMERICAN LEGISLATIVE EXCHANGE COUNCIL WHICH WAS THE KOCH BACKED KOCH BROTHERS BACKED INITIATIVE THAT THEY WERE PUSHING A TEMPLATE ACROSS THE STATES AND TWENTY OF THEM BET ON IT.COLORADO BEING ONE OF THEM ACTUALLY YOU’RE RIGHT ABOUT THE FIRST PART OF THAT ALEC WAS PUSHING. THE OF STANDARD BILL AND MANY OF THE TWENTY STATES THAT AND NOW IT’S UP TO ABOUT TWENTY FIVE OR TWENTY SIX STATES HAVE THOSE KIND OF BILLS THAT WAS NOT. THE COLORADO BILL WE HAD A MODERATE DEMOCRAT HOUSE MEMBER WHO WAS IS. VERY RESPECTIVE OF LOCAL AUTHORITY WHO WAS CONVINCED TO RUN A BILL BUT SHE INSISTED THAT LOCAL INTEREST BE CONSIDERED IN THE NEGOTIATIONS AND SHE BASICALLY SAID TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND TO THE INDUSTRY YOU WILL WORK THIS OUT AND YOU WILL MAKE COMPROMISES IN ANYTHING YOU DON’T WORK OUT. I WILL HELP YOU RESOLVE BEFORE WE GO FORWARD. BUT THERE’S GOING TO BE A COMPROMISE HERE IT WAS NOT. IN ANYWAY AND ALEC BILL AND I HAVE SAID PUBLICLY MANY TIMES I’VE SPOKEN ABOUT OUR STATE LAW AND I AM SOMETIMES. CAST MEMBER CARL L FLIPPANT. AND I DON’T BITE MY TONGUE WHEN I SHOULD HAVE BUT I WAS QUOTED IN A TRADE PUBLICATION A FEW WEEKS AGO. AS SAYING I WOULD NEVER USE THE WORD BEST AND OUR STATE’S SMALL CELL BILL IN THE SAME SENSE BECAUSE. I DIDN’T THINK WE NEEDED LET THE LEGISLATURE TO TELL US HOW TO DO OUR BUSINESS. BUT I WOULD STATE THAT OUR STATE BILL SUCKS THE LEAST OF ANY OF THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE SAYING SOMETHING.I SUPPOSE BUT FOLLOWING UP ON GRANT WILSON’S. PIECE THAT HE TURNED AND TO THE TO THE CITY COUNCIL BOULDER CITY COUNCIL DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THAT AND SEE HOW DIFFERENT. MUNICIPALITIES IN CALIFORNIA HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REGAIN AND ACTUALLY BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE IN TERMS OF CONTROL.I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW HIS REPORT.I THINK I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT’S IN THERE.I DISAGREE WITH THE SOME. FACTS THAT ARE IN THERE I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH HIM AFTER HE CAME OUT THE REPORT WHICH I APPRECIATE HIM REACHING OUT TO ME AND SEEKING MY FEEDBACK. ON SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND I HAVE CONTACTED SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES IN CALIFORNIA WHO HAVE EITHER WORKED WITH SOME OF THOSE CITIES OR. ARE AWARE OF MORE OF THE FACTS OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN SOME OF THOSE CITIES.AND I JUST I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SOME. GOOD EXAMPLES THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IN SOME OF THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IT IS NOT CORRECT TO SAY THAT ANY CITY. HAS SUCCESSFULLY IMPOSED A MORATORIUM OR HAS STOPPED EVEN TEMPER EARLY FIVE G DEPLOYMENT. AT LEAST NOT WITHOUT EXPOSING ITSELF TO SIGNIFICANT LEGAL LIABILITY SO I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE AT LEAST I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY PARTICULAR CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STOP.FIVE G AND DO SO LEGALLY.WELL ON FRIDAY ACTUALLY A WHAT YOU MAKE A PENDING LAWSUIT BY SAN JOSE IN A HUNDRED CITIES SAID. MA’AM I’M A PARTY MIGHT MY I HAVE PROBABLY SEVENTY LOCAL GOVERNMENT CLIENTS THAT ARE JOINT PARTIES WITH SAN JOSE IN THAT LAW SUE WE ARE FIGHTING VERY HARD AGAINST THOSE REGULATIONS.SO WE’RE RIGHT IN THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT FIGHT WE’VE BEEN LEADING THE CHARGE. AND FRANKLY THEY’RE BEEN HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF MY LIFE THAT HAVE BEEN SPENT ON THAT LAWSUIT SINCE LAST SEPTEMBER SO I’M VERY AWARE OF IT. AND BOULDER IS ONE OF THE PARTIES TO THAT THROUGH THIS ECU A GROUP WHICH WE HAVE SAID PREVIOUSLY IN THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT YOU CAN. WELL AND QUICKLY JUMP AND YEAH GROUP A LOT OF WHAT. AN AWFUL LOT OF RESPECT AND INSPIRED BY HIS WORK AND APPRECIATE HIM TAKING THE TIME TO SPEAK WITH ME FOR A MORATORIUM. WILL BE UPHELD IN THE COURTS AND A FEW CITIES IN CALIFORNIA GONE BEYOND THE ALLOWABLE FEDERALLY. BUT OTHERS GOT REALLY CLOSE TO THE LINE OF WELL WOULD MAXIMIZE LOCAL AUTHORITY. AT THE SAME TIME PLACING ME IN FOR RESTRICTIONS ON THE LOFT OVER ALL OUT AND BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH CAN IN THE CITY OF BOULDER TO IDENTIFY. EXAMPLES THAT WE AGREE IF I TRIED TO REALLY INTERESTING APPROACHES TO MAINTAIN LOCAL CONTROL WHILE NAVIGATING THE DIFFICULTIES OF THE SEC’S RULE AND LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THAT. FOR YOU TO KENTUCKY AT A LATER POINT.I DON’T KNOW HOW RELEVANT THIS IS TO THIS DISCUSSION BUT SEEING THIS ON MY PHONE FOR WORK UNFORTUNATELY.UM I SAW ADVERTISEMENTS ON INSTAGRAM FROM VERIZON STATING THAT FIVE G WAS COMING TO DENVER AND IT’S. VERY CATCHY AD IN ROLL OUT AND CORSET FOR QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION BUT AS DENVER’S KIND OF HOW I VIEWED AS OUR BIGGER SIBLING OLDER SIBLING UM. IF IT’S COMING AND IT’S KIND OF CURIOUS BECAUSE I THINK IT SOMEHOW AFFECTS HOW WE HANDLE THINGS. OUR HAIR IN THE COUNCIL.I MEAN HOWARD EXCEPT IN THIS ROW OUT OF FIVE KEY INTO ACCOUNT AND IT HASN’T COME YET IS IT. FOR THE HOUSE APPARENTLY RESPONDING BECAUSE I CAN’T IMAGINE THAT DENVER HAS TOO MUCH OF A DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC IN TERMS OF WANTING IT NOT WANTING IT UNFOLDED US. CAN SPEAK FOR VERIZON BUT WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT DEPLOYMENT IS THAT IT’S LOCALIZED AND THAT THEY’VE DONE A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AROUND HOW THEY. WHERE THEY’RE PUTTING IT IN WHAT IT ISN’T THAT KIND OF STUFF. I DON’T I’M NOT AWARE OF COUNCIL CONVERSATIONS RELATED TO THIS TIME THE CITY IT HAS DONE A LOT AROUND TO THE STANDARDS THAT. EDWARD HAS TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF IF THEY ACTUALLY TO FIND SOMETHING THAT THEY CALL THE CITY POLAND HAVE MANY OF THE REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE AND WE MIRROR OFF ONE ANOTHER.BUT THAT’S THE STARS AND A DANCE THAT WE HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY THE STAFF TO STAFF WITH DENVER TO LEARN. TOO SMALL SO THE APPOINTMENT THAT’S NEARLY FIVE G SOME OTHER THINGS AND SOME OF THE EARLIER. DEPLOYMENT OF SMALL SELF IT DIDN’T GO WELL IN DENVER THAT THEY MODIFIED THE REGULATIONS THAT WE’VE HELPED US. LEARN FROM THOSE FOR WHAT’S IN OUR REGULATIONS NOW. WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND WORK WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY’RE DOING IS THEY FALSELY CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT MORE EXPERIENCE ALREADY IN SMALL CELL THAT WE DO. THINK THERE IS THIS RELATED TO THE QUESTION ARE YOU SURE. THAT WE ARE NEARING THE END OF OUR QUESTION TIME SO I GUESS WE SQUEEZE IN A FEW MORE QUICK HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM.ONE OF THEM HAS IS DIRECTED AT WHOEVER MIGHT HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THIS AND IF THERE ARE VARYING ANSWERS AND I WOULD WELCOME THEM. DOCTOR DAVIS IN HER PRESENTATION HAD A GRAPH THAT SHOWED THE PERMISSIBLE EXPOSURE LIMITS FOR DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND MY QUESTION IS. HOW WILL FIVE GED RADIATION BE VARIED ACCORDING TO THOSE EXPOSURE LIMITS IN CITIES AROUND THE WORLD IF. I DON’T KNOW IF I CAN SAY THAT MAYBE DOCTOR. CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THE EUROPEAN UNION RECENTLY ISSUED A REPORT IN WHICH THEY SAID THAT THERE IS CURRENTLY NO ACCEPTED STANDARD METHOD FOR MEASURING FIVE G. AND THAT SPEAKS TO THE PROBLEM THAT OTHERS HAVE INDICATED HERE WHICH IS A STANDARD FOR WHAT TYPE HE IS HAD BEEN ONLY RECENTLY DEVELOPED. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WE RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN YOU ARE ALLOWING A FIVE G ANTENNA TO BE AFFIXED TO WHATEVER STRUCTURES YOU DO. YOU ARE ALSO TAKING THE THREE G AND FOUR G ANTENNAS WHICH FORMERLY HAD BEEN ON. POWERS MILES AWAY AND BRINGING THEM DIRECTLY CLOSER TO PEOPLE AND THE FAT RADIATION QUITE FRANKLY THAT WE ARE ESPECIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT. YOU’RE BASICALLY TAKING RADIATION THAT FOR YEARS HAS BEEN FAR AWAY AND BRINGING IT IN PROXIMITY TO PEOPLE IN FIVE D IS SOMETHING YOU ARE WORKING ON. THANK YOU MY KITCHENETTE TO DO WITH SOME VARIATION OF EXPOSURES OR RADIATION BASED ON THE VARIOUS EXPOSURE LIMIT SO THANK YOU AND I GUESS BASICALLY IT SOUNDS LIKE. THE ONE THING THAT MIGHT HELP ELIMINATE YOUR QUESTION IS. I’M A QUICK REVIEW OF HOW PENETRATE OF THE RAISE OF FIVE G ARE AND THEY ARE DIFFERENT BETWEEN. THREE G FOUR G AND FIVE G AND I THINK WE DID NOT COVER THAT’S A TOPIC SO UM IF IF YOU MIGHT. INFORM ON THAT BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS AND IT’S PART OF WHY THEY WOULD BE SUCH DANCE AND SELL DEPLOYMENT AND SAID OK FOR TALK ABOUT THAT PICTURE. AS AN EXAMPLE WHEN WHEN YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT SMALL SCALE DEPLOYMENTS RIGHT TYPICALLY ITS LTE. THE REASON WHY YOU SEE A SMALL SCALE DEPLOYMENT IS BECAUSE WHATEVER THAT MACRO NETWORK INTO THE BROADBAND NETWORK THAT YOUR TYPICAL USING WHEN YOU’RE OUTSIDE. COULDN’T EVEN IF WITH A BLOW SIX FIGURE IT’S EFFECTIVELY PENETRATE INSIDE BUILDINGS. AND SO YOU DEPLOY A SMALL SAUNA BUILDING TO ENHANCE THE COVERAGE INSIDE THAT BECAUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON THE BUILDING MATERIALS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. DIDN’T REALLY ALLOW LTE TO PENETRATE WELL. TYPICALLY WHEN YOU MOVE UP IN SPECTRUM IT. HAS A DECAYING AFFECTING YOUR ABILITY TO ACTUALLY PENETRATE SO GETTING INTO MILLIMETER WAVES PROPAGATE WORSE AND MEDIA AND MEDIA ACCOUNTS WHICH IS WHY. KEVIN WAS TALKING ABOUT THE SMALL SCHOOL RACE BEING ABOUT A HUNDRED METERS TO SIMPLY BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN’T PROPAGATE WELL. AND SO IF YOU EFFECTIVELY DON’T HAVE LINE OF SIGHT LIKE A FLAKE FROM THE ANTENNA TO WHATEVER THE DEVICES. THEY PROBABLY WON’T WORK BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT UM IF. YOU’RE EIGHTY OR FIVE YEARS TRYING TO DO TO HELP WITH ADDING SOMETHING ACTUALLY THAT THE YOUNG MAN THAT LEFT WAS TALKING ABOUT. IS THAT FIVE G IN ADDITION TO BEING MILLIMETER WAVE IS STARTING TO DO WHAT’S CALLED BEAM FORMING AND BEAM STEERING. AND THIS IS WHERE RATHER THAN HAVE AN ANTENNA THAT JUST RADIATES IN ALL DIRECTIONS WRITER EVEN AND YOU KNOW SOME KIND OF SIXTY DEGREE. FORM YOU CAN ACTUALLY CREATED BEAM THIS SPECIFICALLY FROM. FIVE G SELL TO THE DEVICE. AND THEN YOU CAN STEER THAT BEAM AROUND IS THAT DEVICE MOVES TO MAINTAIN A CONNECTION TO IT RIGHT AND SO THAT FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGES THE WAY AN LTE MACRO CELL WORKS. WHICH IS VERY BROAD IN ITS IN ITS EMISSIONS TO SOMETHING THAT’S BEEN FORMING IN BEAM STEERING WHICH IS FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT CALMER NOW THAT REALLY WORKS AND IT ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR. MORE EFFECTIVE CONNECTION BUT IT CHANGES THE PHYSICS CLARIFY WHETHER THE BEAM FORMING SIGNAL WILL GO THROUGH TREES.IT DEPENDS ON THE FREQUENCY RIGHT SO. IF YOU’RE DOING YOU KNOW YOU IMAGINE BASICALLY THERE’S A CALCULATION KEVIN PROBABLY KNOWS THE MATH THAN I. DID BASED ON WHATEVER THE SPECTRUM IS THAT YOU’RE USING. IS A CALCULATION FOR WHAT THE SIZE OF THE MATERIAL HAS TO BE IN ORDER FOR IT TO NOT BE ABLE TO PENETRATE OMINOUS TYPICALLY INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL TO THE SIZE OF THE FREQUENCY ITSELF.NOW THE TREES LEAVES AND STUFF LIKE THAT RIGHT I MEAN I THINK YOU’RE GOING TO SEE SCATTER OFF OF LEAVES YOU KNOW AND MILLIMETER WAVE.SO YEAH YOU’RE GOING TO SUFFER IN COVERAGE FOR ANYTHING THAT’S BETWEEN THE FIVE V CELL AND YOUR CRIME ITSELF AND SO HAVE TO CUT DOWN SOME TREES. ARE TRIMMED AND IF THERE’S A BUSINESS YOU KNOW I CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT CUTTING DOWN TREES IN THE CITY OF BOULDER THAT IS LIES.SAM WANTS TO JUMP IN ON THIS ONE GOES THE GADGETS ON A DUMP IN AND SAY THAT THIS HAS BEEN A CONCERN OF MINE ABOUT FIVE G BECAUSE. BOB WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE ON A DIRECTIONAL ANTENNA AS THINGS OFTEN ARE SQUARED BUT IF YOU HAVE BEEN FORMING AND TEN AS WHEN THEY’RE DOING THAT TRANSMIT BIT.PRESUMABLY YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE HIGHER YOUR RADIANCE ARM FOR TO BE INFORMED BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT IT’S DOING RIGHT IS CONCENTRATING. ADDITIONAL VOTE ON SAND USING INTERFERENCE TO PROPAGATE THEM. DIRECTLY AT A TARGET AND SO IT WOULD SEEM TO ME. THAT THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE OTHER AREA OF POTENTIAL CONCERN HERE IS THAT BEING FOREMAN IS GOING TO INCREASE THE RADIANCE LEVELS OR NETWORKING AT TWENTY TWO. HUNDRED TSHIRTS THAT WERE IN THAT KIND OF REGIME THAT WE’VE NEVER BEEN BEFORE WITH LT. IS ON A GREASED A RESULT ANY OF THAT TONIGHT BUT IT IS YOU KNOW I HEARD YOU MENTION FOR ME EARLIER. THAT CAUGHT MY EAR AND SHE BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN AND I’M SURE THERE’S GOOD ADVANTAGES TO IT COS IT WOULD HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT.YES AND SO EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS EXACTLY CORRECT. BUT YOU KNOW THINK ABOUT WONDER BEAN FOR ME ARE CONCENTRATING IN A SHIA LONG CAUSE CERTAIN RAY AND SOLD. EVERYTHING ELSE AROUND IT IS REALLY DEVOID OF ENERGY SERBIAN BETTER FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE ON THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS SET BETWEEN THE BASE STATION IN HER PHONE.THERE’S NEGOTIATION GOING ON TO MAKE THE POWER LEVEL THE MINIMUM POWER COUPLE FOR A PROPER CONNECTION AUTOMATICALLY. SYSTEM IS KIND TO MINIMIZE THE POWER THAT CREATED JUST TO MEET THE PROPER POWER. OF THE PROPERTY TO READ I SAY SO THAT’S ALL PART OF LTE OR FIVE SHE IS POWER IN MANAMA STATION.OK LAST QUESTION A WEEK.OKAY TWO MORE QUESTIONS BUT WE HAVE TO MISS.SO ERM I THINK DOCTOR DAVIS TALKED ABOUT TAKING THE SYSTEMS AND WIRING THEM TO INTO BUILDINGS.CAN YOU GET WHEN YOU SPEAK TO THAT END IN NO REDUCTION OF HARM OR POTENTIAL HARM OR WHATEVER. COULD SOMEBODY SPEAK TO THEIR MAKING IT WIRED RATHER THAN WIRELESS.I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WHAT DOCTOR DAVIS WAS SAYING THERE BUT I THINK ANDREW TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE SO YOU HAVE A SMALL SELF. AND YOU KNOW THE SMALL CELL HAS THE ANTENNA AND THE STOCK INTO THE ROOM EQUIPMENT. AND SO I BELIEVE DOCTOR DAVIS A CRAP IF I’M WRONG WHAT DOCTOR DAVIS IS SAYING. THE BACK HALL TO THE SMALL SELF SHOULD BE HIGHER FIBER WIRE AND AS ANDREW POINTED OUT VAST MAJORITY OF THE CASE. BUT I WOULD ALSO AGREE WITH DOCTOR DAVIS AND YOU COULD ALMOST COME UP YOU KNOW WITH A SET OF BOXES TRY TO HOLD YOUR PHONE AWAY FROM THE BODY. RUN FIBER TO THE SMALL CELLS HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.YOU KNOW I THINK BOULDER COULD AND THIS MEETING WAS KIND OF POT FARM TO BE LEADER DOESN’T SEEM LIKE THE STUFF I’VE G. I’M NOW THINKING ABOUT IS SAYING THAT BUT WE DO WANT TO BE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE AND YOU KNOW A SUGGESTION THIS TO COME UP WITH THE LOVE. OF THE BEST PRACTICES AND SO I’M SO DOCTOR DAVIS JUST TO MAKE SHUT IN MY STATE.YOU’RE JUST TALKING ABOUT BAD CALL FROM A SMALL CELL BEEN WIRED FOR FIBRE CORRECT. THAT’S CORRECT AND I THINK THAT MY UNDERSTANDING I TEACH AT SICHUAN UNIVERSITY IN CHINA. AND WHERE OF COURSE IS YOU KNOW THE ASIAN CITIES ARE SO DENSE THEY CAN DO THIS THEY CAN WIRE THINGS AND THAT’S WHAT THE OTHER GENERALLY PROCEEDING. ALTHOUGH THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HUMAN LIFE IS TRIVIAL AS YOU ALL MAY KNOW. BUT IT CAN BE DONE AND I THINK IT WOULD BE. A TREMENDOUS SAVINGS FOR GREENHOUSE GASES TO BE QUITE FRANK I CAN SEND YOU THE INFORMATION INFECTED ON OUR WEBSITE A D H TRUST DOT ORG THAT THE ENERGY COSTS. OF THE PLANNED EXPANSION OF WIRELESS THERE REALLY ARE TREMENDOUS SAVINGS CAN BE HERE AND THE BORDERS FOR THE LEADER IN CLIMATE POLICY THE CITY LEVEL I THINK YOU COULD LEAD ON THIS AS WELL. THERE IS THE ISSUE OF WHETHER THE FIGHT HE OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR SECURITY PURPOSES.AGAIN THE POLICE FIRE HOSPITALS ET-CETERA BUT WIRING IT TO AND THROUGH. WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE WIRELESS SO LONG AS. YOU DIDN’T HAVE TO PUT THE WIRELESS ON ON ON TOP OF THAT AS WELL. AND THAT’S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE EXPLORED I THINK GRANT MAY HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE CURRENTLY I THINK THAT MAYBE SOME MANDATORY. REQUIREMENT WITH RESPECT TO EVEN IF YOU DID THAT WITH SOMETHING THAT I KNOW BLAKE LEVITT AND OTHERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT AND IT DOES NEED TO BE EXPLORED. AND PROBABLY CANNOT WE CAN TO ADJUST TO THE SMALL SESSION. BUT I CERTAINLY WOULD URGE YOU TO EXPLORE IT AND TO AFRICA WHO ARE NO MORE THAN I WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET TO. TAKE YOU GOING TO GET A FINAL QUESTION FROM CINDY AND BOLDNESS TO WHAT WE SAID WE HAVE FIFTEEN MINUTES TO THINK ABOUT NEXT STEPS.SO THIS IS JUST CHANGING TOPICS A LITTLE BIT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT DOCTOR GIFFORD. YOU WORKED IN CYBERSECURITY AND I WONDERED IF YOU OR ANYONE OF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE IDEA OF WHAT IS NOW CALLED SURVEILLANCE CAPITALISM.THERE’S A BOOK OUT BY HARVARD PROFESSOR NAMED SHE’S CHASED SHOPS ON SHANA ZOOM OFF.EXCUSE ME AND I WONDERED IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT THIS IS HOW THIS THERE’S BEEN A SHORT TERM EVOLUTION IN TERMS OF THIS BEING FOR. THOSE SOCIAL MEDIA BEING MORE FOR GATHERING AND SHARING IN TO BECOMING SURVEILLANCE AND PRIVACY ISSUES.ANY THOUGHTS ON THE UM OKAY SO THIS IS THE SAME OPINION.OK SO I’M AND I’M NOT READ WHAT YOU’VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT SURVEILLANCE CAPITALISTS UM ON SECOND VIDEO IS THE NUMBER ONE SENSE OR. TRANSPORTING A BUNCH OF VIDEO THAT COULD HAVE P I PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION OR PRIVACY CONCERNS IN STOCK ARE CONCERNED ONE OF THEM.YES OKAY WELL UM YOU KNOW I GUESS THE PRIVACY PART OF THAT UM I THINK IS A REGULATION PAR.I THINK FROM A FIVE G PERSPECTIVE.FIVE G IS CERTAINLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE MUCH MORE VIDEO THAT’S GOING TO BE. THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT’S GOING TO DO AND THE MAJORITY OF WHAT IS GOING TO COME FOR MOBILE USERS FOR MOBILE PHONES SOLD US GOING TO BE THE REALITY. FROM YOU KNOW WHAT’S A DAY TO INTRODUCE INTEGRITY AND SECURITY PERSPECTIVE BOTH LTE AND FIVE G HOW PROPER WHAT’S A SECURITY CAPABILITIES YOU CAN ENCRYPT THAT.THAT’S ALL PART OF IT.OK SO REALLY THREE GP WHICH CAN HELP DEVELOP THEIR STANDARDS AND SECURITY ARE REALLY PRETTY GOOD.SOLD OUT PARTY BUT I THINK IS WELL UNDERSTOOD. THE BIGGER PART OF HAVING A BUNCH OF VIDEO WRITE LIKE. A GREAT EXAMPLE IS ONE OF THE HOTTEST NEW APP OUTRIGHT YOU GUYS IS LIKE TO FACE TOP RIGHT YOU CAN EITHER HAVE FACE TIME AND THERE’S ALSO ANOTHER APP. THAT WILL TAKE YOUR FACE AND MAKE LITTLE CARTOON CHARACTER SET UP RIGHT NOW THINK ABOUT THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THAT PARTICULAR APP OR HAVE. THEY HAVE NO VIDEO OF YOUR FACES OF BILLIONS AND BILLIONS JUST TO ME OF MILLIONS OF FACES RIGHT AND SO NOW THE AIA MACHINE LEARNING ALGORITHMS WERE THOSE CONTENT AND FOR FACIAL RECOGNITION.SO THAT’S KIND OF THE POWER OF IT’S GOING TO COME FROM THAT UM YOU KNOW. I WILL STATE YOU KNOW OF THE PRIVACY OF THE POLICY PART OF THE FIVE G SERVING ALLOW YOU TO TRANSFORM ALL THOSE IMAGES SURROUND. A QANTAS OPINION I THINK THE ALSO THE ISSUE IS THE SUBSIDY. OF THE FACT THAT A LOT OF DATA IS GOING TO BE COLLECTED ON A LOT OF PEOPLE AND IT’S GOING TO BE USED FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO MAKE MONEY. AND THEY WERE CHARGE OF THE GOOD.WAY HER BECAUSE BEING FORCED TO WEAR RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE COLLECTION OF DATA ON OUR CITIZENS WHO THEN BE USED TO MAKE MONEY FOR OTHERS. THERE’S AN ISSUE AROUND EQUITY HERE THAT FEELS LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED ON BEHALF OF THE THAT MAKE SENSE I AGREE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT. THE EU THE EUROPEAN UNION POLICE AWAY A NAP RIGHT.I MEAN IF YOU TALK TO ANYBODY FROM EUROPE THEY DON’T WANT TO HAVE A G MAIL ADDRESS BECAUSE THEIR STATEMENT AS GOOGLE DOES SO MUCH OR. DOESN’T CARE ABOUT YOU THEY JUST WENT TODAY TO WRITE IF YOU HAVE A G MAIL ADDRESS. GOOGLE GETS ALL THE DATA FROM THE ALGORITHMS ACROSS AT I THINK THAT IS A GENERAL CONCERN.I MEAN IT’S ACTUALLY BEEN A CONCERN OF MINE AND THAT’S A CONFESSION I DIDN’T GET MY CELL PHONE.THIS IS MY FIRST CELL PHONE AT WORK I GOT TWO MONTHS AGO AND PART OF THAT AND I’M A WIRELESS PERSON BUT IT’S NOT BECAUSE OF THE CULTURE HEALTH RISK.I JUST WANT TO TALK TO PEOPLE I TOOK A BUS. BUT THE REALITY IS IF YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE THEY CAN TRACK YOUR DATA RIGHT IN SO THAT HE IS CERTAINLY UM YOU KNOW. HIM AS AN EXAMPLE IN THE EU TO CONSIDER A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT THAT YOU CAN BE FORGOTTEN. THAT YOU CAN TELL GOOGLE OR ANY SEARCH ENGINE YOU CAN NOT KEEP DATA ABOUT ME AND SO I THINK THAT’S. THE TYPE OF POLICY THAT YOU’RE THINKING OF SOMETHING IN THAT DAY I CAN’T REALLY UPDATE OF WHERE WE’RE HEADED.IT SEEMSWHAT IF IT INTEREST TO THE COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME SMALL CITIES THAT HAVE ACTUALLY MADE BROADBAND. AND ARE TRYING AND TRYING TO DO IT THROUGH WIRED. WITH THE COLOR FIBER HOOD GOOGLE ACTUALLY HAD A WHOLE DIVISION ON THE FIBER HOOD WHICH IN FACT AT ONE POINT WIRED MOST OF ST LOUIS I BELIEVE. IN ORDER TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE AND AGAIN IT WAS WIRED. WHICH ADDS A LOT TO COMMEND IT I THINK APROPOS THE CONVERSATION ABOUT. CONFIDENTIALITY WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR FACE AFTER YOU ARE GIVING THEM IRREVOCABLE ROYALTY FREE RIGHTS TO ANY PHOTO OF YOU. ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT YOU WHERE YOU’VE GONE TO IP ADDRESSES TRACKING DATA THEY GET IT ALL AND THEY USE IT.OF COURSE THE FELLAS AND MAKE MONEY OFF OF IT AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO GET CONCERNED ABOUT THIS AND UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE. BASICALLY GIVING THINGS AWAY EVEN OTHERS WERE MAKING MONEY FROM GIVING UP PRIVACY.INDEED THE WEEKEND THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR ALL OF YOUR TIME GOING TO PAUSE AND JUST HAVE A FEW MINUTES DISCUSSION AMONGST COUNCIL ABOUT WHERE WE WANT TO GO FROM HERE. WE JUST TALKED INTO SEVEN MINUTES OF THAT BOMB. TO START BY SAYING THAT WE’VE HEARD A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE TOUCHY OR CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATIONS ABOUT GETTING FCC DOCKET AND UPDATED AND FINISHED THAT WOULD BE I THINK IT EASIER FOR US.I’M LOOKING FOR NOT BOTHER YOU WITH THOSE THAT SEEM RIGHT.ITS LEGISLATIVE AGENDA ITEM.THERE IS SOME JUST SOME SUGGESTIONS OF HIS UPPER BODY WORK THAT MIGHT FALL TO THE NEXT COUNCIL. BUT IT BE INTERESTING TO GET A PULSE ON HERE OF THIS NOTION OF PURSUING ALREADY IN COURT DEALING WITH TRYING TO FIGHT FOR LOCAL CONTROL OVER THIS. WHAT IS THE TEMPERATURE ON EXPLORING SOME REGS IN ADDITION TO THE ONES WE ALREADY HAVE THAT MIGHT SET US UP BETTER FOR THE ONSLAUGHT OF APPLICATIONS IT SEEM LIKELY. AND AT GRANDMA’S AND PLAYED SOME OF THOSE OUT AND CAN FILM A THINK IF WE WENT THROUGH CHANTS PRESENTATION.UM KIND OF FOUND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY STEWING FROM EDWARD INMAN ALSO. BROUGHT IN GRANTS RECOMMENDATIONS I’D LIKE TO SEE THOSE ARE KIND OF PUT TOGETHER IN WHAT IS REALISTIC FOR THE ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF BOULDER. SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN GETTING TOGETHER ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT WAS MADE BY GRANT WILSON WAS TO. PUT TOGETHER A CITIZENS GROUP THAT COULD LOOK INTO THESE THINGS FOR US AND LOOK MORE BROADLY THAN WE’RE ABLE TO DO QUICKLY. AND MAYBE GET SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO US BY DOING SOME COMPARISONS IT WOULD BE A GROUP THAT WOULD BE PUT TOGETHER LIKE THE WORKING GROUP FOR THE ALBUM. THAT WE DID FOR THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS LAST TIME THE CITY COUNCIL I WOULD HOPE WOULD NAME OR THE POLICE OVERSIGHT ASK FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR SOMETHING MORE INFORMAL. OR THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REGULATIONS AND PUSH THE LEVEL OF REGULATION SO SEEMS TO ME THAT WAS PROBABLY AN EXERCISE BY LAWYERS.I MEAN WHO WOULD BE INTERESTING ENOUGH PRESENCE WAY AND THAT THE LAWYERS WILL BE THE ONES THAT TELL US WHERE THE LINE STRONG. NEED LIGHT ELEGANT MEAL OR PARTICULAR A TONGAN AND GRANT WHO COULD HELP THIS WITH THE FBI WHICH SEEGER. AS WELL GRANT AND THAT WAS THE IDEA OF THE CITIZENS GROUP THIS CAME AGAIN FROM THE CITIZENS IT HAS MOVED US TO AT LEAST THIS PLACE. AND THERE’S SO MUCH INTEREST AND EXPERTISE OUT THERE IT WAS JUST THE IDEA THAT THEY COULD HELP ON ANYTHING LIKE THAT AS A SOUNDING BOARD. AND I THOUGHT I’M IN ONE OF MR. WILSON’S POINT OUT THAT WAS FOR GOOD WHICH WAS TO RESPOND QUICKLY TO CHANGES IN REGULATIONS RACE WERE ADVOCATING FOR MORE CHANGES IN REGULATIONS.IT SEEMS LIKELY THAT COURT CASES WILL CHANGE THE FCC REGULATIONS ET-CETERA. I THOUGHT WE AS A CITY DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OR WHATEVER YEAR AND A HALF AGO OR SOMETHING WHEN WE ADOPTED. THE SMALL SO REGULATIONS AND HEARING FROM EDWARD ABOUT HOW WE’RE APPLYING THEM IT SEEMS LIKE. YOU’RE DOING A LOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE NEW FACILITIES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND PLACE APART FROM EACH OTHER AND COMBINE ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS. I FEEL LIKE A REGULAR REGIME THERE’S PRETTY GOOD. SO I JUST THINK IF WE CAN JUST STAY ON TOP OF THIS AND PUT A CHARGE UP TO STAFF TO SAY IF MORE CHANGES COME OUR WAY. TO GIVE US MORE LATITUDE LETS JUMP ON THOSE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM RIGHT AWAY. TO DOING YOU’RE DOING SOMETHING AS SIMPLE THOUGH IS GIVING NOTICE BIKE TO NEIGHBORHOODS. WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL IT COULD BE IMMEDIATE THAT THE CITY STAFF HAS NOT DONE WE DO THAT WITH OTHER ORDINANCES ARE. THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING DEMOLITION BUILDING CONSTRUCTION ET-CETERA SO IT WOULD BE NOT UNREASONABLE. TO DO THAT KIND OF THING AS WELL BUT WE MIGHT BE OR WANTED TO DO A REVIEW OF SOME SORT AND TO SEE IF THERE’S ANY ADDITIONAL IDEAS THAT. WE’VE HEARD ABOUT THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO ADD TO OUR CURRENT REGS SO IN OTHER LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.I THINK WE ALSO THINK IF I CAN REMEMBER DETECTOR STUNNING STEPPING AND DOCTOR DAVIS.THEY BOTH MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT. THERE’S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY WITH REGARD TO THE HEALTH RISKS AND SO IN OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA I THINK WE NEED TO ASK FOR MORE RESEARCH ON. THE HEALTH EFFECTS OF FIVE KEY IN AT THE SAME TIME I READ AN ARTICLE THE OTHER DAY ABOUT. THE IMPLICATIONS OF IF YOU GO WAY HIGH INTO THE HIGH FIVE G. BAND THAT IT MAY HAVE SOME INTERFERENCE WITH WATER VAPOR AND THAT THE ABILITY TO FORECAST ACCURATELY BECAUSE WATER VAPOR HAS SOME OUT THE SAME FREQUENCY IN ORDER THEY OVERLAP.SO ANYWAY IN THAT LEGISLATIVE AGENDA I’D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BETTER IN TERMS OF WHAT ARE THE RISKS GOING UP HIGH AND YOU’RE THE GUY.OK SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO DO IS TO EXPLORE MORE SO WE CAN.WE COULD ADD REQUESTS FOR MORE RESEARCH ON THE UNKNOWNS AND PUT IN OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR WHATEVER THAT IS WORTH AND PUSHED THE FCC TO FINISH THE DOCKET. FOR A TABLE ON THIS WE’RE COMING TO THE END OF OUR COUNCIL.MOM WE COULD DIRECT STAFF TO REVIEW OUR AGENCY IF THERE’S ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO ADD TO IT WE COULD DETECT GROUP TO DO THAT FORCE AND MAKE HER. LESS TO SAY I WOULD LIKE TO DO BOTH I WOULD LIKE TO GET. THE LAWYERS INVOLVED WITH EDWARD NIGHT OF NO FUNERAL OR YOU’RE NOT AS WELL AS MENTIONING. BUT I’D LIKE TO GET THE LAWYERS TOGETHER WITH EDWARD TO LOOK AT OUR REGULATIONS COME BACK WITH A LIST OF SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT ADD THAT WE COULD IMPROVE THOSE REGULATIONS.I HEARD GRANT WILSON VOLUNTEER TO WORK WITH US SO WE COULD START WITH CAMERAS HAVE HIM REVIEW. OUR PILATE REGULATIONS AND HAVE HIM GIVE SUGGESTIONS BECAUSE IT’S NOT CLEAR TO ME BUT HE KNOWS YET. WHAT WE ARE DOING OR NOT DURING A DREAM HE’D LEARNED TONIGHT THAT WE HAVE A SIX HUNDRED FOOT SPACING REQUIREMENT JUST LIKE I DID. BUT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF HE WANTS TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THAT TO HAVE HIM READ YOUR CURD AND MAYBE SEND US SUGGESTIONS BECAUSE MAYBE SOME OF ITS ART. AND MAYBE SOME OF IT’S NOT THAT BRIGHT COUNCIL FEAST ON THE PHONE OR NOT BUT. HELP BUT THINK YOU ARE AND I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. I REALLY RESPECT THE WORK OF THE CITY OF BOULDER AND LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU AND SCANNED FILM AND THE THEORY THAT PROVIDE SOME INPUT.THANK YOU FOR THAT IDEA. AT THE ECHO THAT I ALSO RESPECT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE WHICH IS WHY I’M ON THE COLLEGE’S AT THIS HOUR BECAUSE I REALLY DO APPRECIATE. THAT YOU’RE DOING THE HARD WORK THAT FRANKLY SHOULD HAVE THAT DONE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LET ME JUST SAY AS A RESEARCHER. I’VE WRITTEN A BOOK SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW ABOUT CALLED DISCONNECT THE TRUTH ABOUT CELL PHONE RADIATION IN THAT BOOK I DOCUMENT. THE DE FUNDING OF RESEARCH BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STARTING IN THE NINETEEN NINETIES WHATEVER. GOVERNMENT SCIENTISTS PRODUCED FINDINGS THAT WERE INCONVENIENT TO THIS INDUSTRY THEY WERE DE FUNDED AND THAT IS WHY IT IS IT’S BIZARRE AND UNEXPLAINABLE.OTHERWISE THE UNITED STATES HAS NO MAJOR RESEARCH PROGRAM IN THIS FIELD RIGHT NOW NOT THANK YOU FOR THAT.OK THAT UNDERSCORES THAT BOB. YOU WHOM YOU COME TO THE IMPLIED BUT IT’S NOT CONFIRMED THAT. AS YOU’VE BEEN PROCESSING THESE VARIOUS APPLICATIONS IN THE GROUP URGES HE DRAGS THAT THE INDUSTRY THE APPLICANTS SEEM TO BE. OKAY WITH WITH THE REGS AM HINDERED THE TEAM WORKING WELL WITH HUGHES AT A FAIR ASSUMPTION. GOOD GENERAL ASSUMPTION MOST OVERLOOKED BEEN VERY OPEN TO WORKING AND TALKING THROUGH OUR RAG SOME RECENT ONES. REMIND US ABOUT THE SHOT CLOCK AND HOW LONG WE’RE TAKING A FEW THINGS BUT GENERALLY THEY AND THEIR RESPECTIVE COMING IN IN HELPING TALK TO THEIR PLANS. AND OUR REGULATIONS ARE COMMUNITY CONCERTS. I’D JUST LIKE TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS AS LAWYERS WHO ARE LAWYERS WORK THROUGH POTENTIALLY SOME. MODIFICATIONS FOR EGGS I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST. A NIGHT TIME YOU DO THIS IS A MATTER OF PRACTICE ANYWAY. THAT THEY SIT DOWN WITH INDUSTRY AS WELL BECAUSE OR MAYBE SOME IDEAS OF THINGS THE INDUSTRY CAN LIVE WITH THAT WE MAY BE CLOSELY SURPRISED TO FIND THAT WE. MAY COME TO AN IMPASSE MUST ADJUST INDUSTRY RATES OR RATES BUT TOM AS A MATTER OF PRACTICE WHEN HE PRE REGS AFFECT SOMEBODY.THE SYSTEM WITH SOME BUTTONS AS YOU KNOW THIS IS KIND OF WHAT WE’RE THINKING. IS THIS ISN’T SOMETHING THAT WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A BIG FIGHT WITH YOU HONORS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN COME TO A COLLABORATIVE TERM ON. TO SUGGEST THAT THE PROCESS TO EXTEND ITS CONSTRUCTOR MARY.I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK THING A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE WERE HERE DISCUSSING THE RETAIL STRATEGY MINUTE THINGS CAME UP DURING THE CONVERSATION WAS THE FACT THAT SOME. APPLICATIONS TOOK TOO LONG AND I HEARD EDWARD TALKING ABOUT. IN REFERENCE TO THE SHOT CLOCK THAT IT WAS BECAUSE REDUCING SEE REALLY INSTEAD OF MOM HAD SOME OTHER WAY SO THOSE TWO THINGS SEEM TO BE RELATED.SAVAGE IS GOING TO SAY AS WE LOOK AT THAT AND TO KEEP IN MIND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AT THE RETAIL STRATEGY CONCUR IT’S MY BELIEF IS THAT WORKED. OK SOLD TO COLLECTORS A MEETING OF THE MINDS ON THAT TERM IS STEPH STEPH THAT SEEM WORKABLE. THE THING SO IT MAY BE LOOKING AT THE LAWYERS HAVE I I CAN HAPPILY SAY THEY’LL SPEND TIME IN A DAY. OKAY OKAY WELL WITH THAT AND WE WILL THANK YOU ONCE MORE. THIS HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL AND WE THINK WE’VE ALL. TAKEN A BIG STEP TOWARD AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIFFERENT THE RISKS AND BENEFITS AND COSTS TO THIS AND DOWN WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE STEPS. SO THANK YOU THANK YOU TO BUZZ ON THE PHONE AND HANGING UP NOW.EVERYBODY MAKE YOU WEEP. AND WITH THAT WE’RE GOING TO TRANSITION TO HOUSING HOUSING. THE US ARE YET TO ATTEND THE SPEECH OF SHOW THE KIDS HAVE ANYBODY TO ADD ON I USE ALL THE LUCK TO PROTEST AH IT’S UP. ON US OR SEE MY AUNT WHICH LASTS. THE EAGLES JUST SCHEDULES BUT SPENDING THE DAY BEFORE BOOKS THE COVERS. OK HERE YOU ARE ON RUNTIME . IT’S ALL WE THE US FOR JUST THE UH THE FOR THE YEAR THE FIRST IS FROM THE US THE NUMBER OF CALLERS. IT’S LIKE LOOKING INTO THE LINE DREADED THE TIME IT’S THE ANCHORS THE LINE I AM TO GO. THROUGH THE HOURS DOWN THE COAST THE SUMMER SOME OF THE EVENING OF THE FAITH AT ALL.OKAY I WOULD NEED THE DAYS.OK WE’RE READY TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM LOOKS LIKE WERE SCATTERED BUT WERE REALLY MICHELE’S ARE ONLY GOING TO STAY SOBER.GOOD EVENING TOM KIRK HUBBARD DIRECTOR OF HOUSING HUMAN SERVICES.I’M JOINED BY BOB I COME USE OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR THE CITY AND A SIDE NOTE WHO’S A SENIOR HOUSING PLANNER. SO IN AUGUST TO TWENTY SIXTEEN CITY COUNCIL PASSED THE MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING STRATEGY AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASK IS SO WHAT’S HAPPENING.UM I THINK THE MIDDLE INCOME STRATEGY IS IS A DIFFICULT ONE AND IT’S NOT INTUITIVE BUT IT’S ACTUALLY MORE EXPENSIVE TO CREATE MIDDLE INCOME HOUSING THAT IT IS. LOW INCOME HOUSING ON AND WE ALSO HAVE SEEN IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT THERE’S LESS FOR SALE HOUSING BEING BUILT IN THE COMMUNITY. AND FOR SALE HOUSING IS REALLY THE FOCUS OF MIDDLE INCOME AND I’M SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ASKED WHAT’S GOING ON NOW SO SO CURLY WEAVE SIXTY NINE. UNITS THAT ARE BEING BUILT OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS IN THE CITY OF BOULDER WHICH WILL BE HOME OWNERSHIP UNITS REPRESENT SIX DIFFERENT PROJECTS.SO WE’VE HAD SORT OF A DRY SPELL IN THAT SUMMER WE ARE SEEING AN UPTICK AND WERE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THOSE THOSE SIXTY NINE UNITS THAT WILL BE COMING ON. A BIG MAJORITY OF THOSE WILL BE MIDDLE INCOME UNITS.HOWEVER WE HAVE A LONG WAYS TO GO TO THE THOUSAND UNIT GOAL WHICH WAS CREATED BY CITY COUNCIL.SO GET OVER THESE HARDER IT GETS HARDER TO BUILD THEM SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE GRANT FROM THE GRANTS ARE ABLE TO GET.THAT’S CORRECT AND THAT PRETTY MUCH IT YET IT TAKES.IT CAN TAKE MORE AND MORE RESOURCES AS A RESULT OF THAT AS WELL AS TWO FACTORS IT’S THE FUNDING AND LACK OF OWNERSHIP HOUSING THAT’S BEING CREATED GENERALLY. SO I’M I THINK THE FIRST WEEK IN AUGUST YOU’VE BEEN INVITED AS COUNSEL TO GO OUT AND HELP BUILD SOME. SOME FOR SALE HOUSING WITH HABITAT SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU OUT THERE AS WELL.SOME HANDED OVER TO JAY WHO’S BEEN WORKING WITH HIM DIRECTLY WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND I THINK WE’RE EXCITED ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS IN THE INNOVATION THAT’S GONE INTO GETTING THIS YEAR.GOOD EVENING SIR I’M JUST GOING TO START WITH THE QUESTIONS COME BACK TO THEM BUT REALLY IT HINGES ON. AND REALLY WHAT IS THE APPRECIATION CAP FOR THE DISTRICT ACCOUNTS AND ALSO WHAT ARE THE ASSET AND INCOME LIMITATIONS. AND YOUR FINAL QUESTION WILL BE AROUND ABOUT LABOR LANGUAGE GOING TO GO OVER SOME BACKGROUND. HOPEFULLY LESS THAN TEN MINUTES OR AS KURT MENTION THIS WHOLE IDEA CAME FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM WEAVER WHO IS. WHITE PAPER THAT WAS PUBLISHED OVER A YEAR AGO AND I’M SO WHAT’S TAFT IS WEEZER REFINE THAT TURNED INTO A CONCRETE WHY STATEMENTS ALSO PURPOSE AT THE GRILL KNOW THAT WE’RE DOING QUITE WELL. MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS BUT IT’S REALLY MIDDLE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE GETTING PRICED OUT OF HOME OWNERSHIP MARKET IN BOULDER.SO THE PURPOSE IS TO CREATE A PROGRAM THAT ASSISTS THOSE SAMPLE THAT WORKERS AND RESIDENTS TO PURCHASE A HOME HERE SO THERE’S THE PILOT PROCESS.IF YOU RECALL WE ARE HERE IN FEBUARY SOME COMPARATIVE RESEARCH WHAT OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY DOING TALKED ABOUT OR PLANNED SCHEDULE.WE IDENTIFIED SOME AN INITIAL PROGRAM PARAMETERS. OVER THOSE QUICKLY WE CONTINUED MEETING WITH INDUSTRY EXPERT LOCAL LENDERS. AND WE HAVE A PRETTY CLOSE TO A PILOT BUT THERE’S STILL SOME PRETTY CRUCIAL QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED BEFORE WE HAVE APPROACHED MOVE FORWARD WITH. SO I’M JUST A RECAP SO THIS EXAMPLE YOU’LL SEE THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION SO THAT IF WE SAY WE HAVE A SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR. PURCHASE PRICE FOR HOME AND THAT HOMEOWNERS WHO EARNS TWENTY PERCENT.AM I AN JUST A GENERAL BALLPARK THAT’S A HOUSEHOLD OF FOUR EARNING ROUGHLY HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO THEY CAN QUALIFY FOR BANK LOAN FOR SEVENTY TWO PERCENT OF THAT PURCHASE PRICE. ASSUMING THEY HAVE A DOWN PAYMENT OF FIVE PERCENT THAT LEAVES A GAP AND THAT’S WHERE THE CITY WOULD COME IN WITH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE. FOR THE STORY THAT UM SO WE’RE BACK IN FEBRUARY WE TALKED ABOUT SOME SOME BASIC PROGRAM PARAMETERS THAT INCOME AND ASSET LIMITS ARE THERE THEY VARY BASED ON HOUSEHOLD SIZE.WE TALKED ABOUT MAXIMUM LOAN AMOUNT OF TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND WE WERE THINKING THAT THE AVERAGE BE CLOSER HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND. A MAXIMUM HOME PRICE WOULD BE DETERMINED BY THE MEDIAN SALES PRICE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND THEN THAT MINIMUM CONTRIBUTION FROM THE HOMEOWNER FIVE PERCENT. OF THE TERM WOULD BE TEN YEARS AND WE WOULD ALLOW ADDITIONAL EQUITY FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND THE WAY TO TALK ABOUT LIVE AND WORK REQUIREMENTS HOMEBUYER EDUCATION WOULD BE REQUIRED. THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO UNOCCUPIED SHORT TERM RENTALS WOULD OF COURSE BE PROHIBITED AND THEN SOME WOULD BE SET ASIDE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES AS WELL. SO THOSE OF THE PARAMETERS SO THE EXAMPLE PROCESS THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE THE APPLICATION WILL MAKE SURE NEEDS ALL OF THINGS I JUST WENT THROUGH. THE CITY WOULD PROVIDE THAT TWENTY THREE PERCENT OF THE HOME VALUE IN EXCHANGE FOR DEED RESTRICTIONS SO THAT. MEANS THAT THE FUTURE SALES PRICE OF THE HOME WOULD BE CAPPED AT AN ANNUAL APPRECIATION RATE AND WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS. AND THEN AFTER RESALE OR TEN YEARS MAXIMUM THE CITY WOULD RECEIVE ITS PRINCIPAL PLUS INTEREST TO REPAY THE BOND OR THE LINE OF CREDIT. AND THOSE ARE THE TWO FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE’VE BEEN EXPLORING QUITE A FEW ARE EXPLORED.THIS IS WERE DOWN TO BOTH OF THOSE WOULD REQUIRE A TABOR VOTE BECAUSE THEY REQUIRE MULTI YEAR OBLIGATIONS.THERE ARE DEFINITE ADVANTAGES TO A LINE OF CREDIT. THAT MONEY IS BORROWED ONLY IS IT AS IT’S NEEDED SO THAT KEEPS THE COSTS DOWN BUT IT’S REALLY IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT’S ON. THE CAN UP THAT MONEY CANNOT BE RE LOANED ONE TO SLOAN TO WITHOUT A FUTURE COUNCIL AUTHORIZING AND FUTURE VOTED PEOPLE. SO IT COULD BE EVERGREEN BUT IT REQUIRES QUITE THE PROCESS. SO THAT THE KEY POLICY QUESTIONS REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN FROM TO IS I WHO DO WE WANT TO SERVE WITH THIS PROGRAM AND THEY’RE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO THINK ABOUT IT.ONE IS THROUGH THE APPRECIATION RATE AND IF YOU CAN AGREE ON THAT AND YOU COME TO A CORPORATE INCOME LIMITATIONS SO THEY’RE COUPLE OPTIONS FOR BOTH. TALK ABOUT GIVE SOME EXAMPLES FOR THOSE IN MY APPRECIATION METHODOLOGY IS SIMPLY THAT SPACE THAT WHAT PEOPLE ARE EARNING. ADDITIONAL EARNINGS PER YEAR THE HOUSEHOLD WILL GET SODIUM I GAZE UP AT TWO POINT ONE PERCENT ON AVERAGE THOSE LAST TEN YEARS.OPTION B IS FOR THE COST LENDING SO THATS WHAT WITH THE CITY WOULD PAY IN TERMS OF INTEREST TO BORROW THAT MONEY EITHER THROUGH THE BOND OR LINE OF CREDIT. AND CURRENTLY WE’RE ESTIMATING THAT TO BE ABOUT FOUR PERCENT AND OPTION C IS A COULD BE A FIXED RATE ANY OTHER NUMBER. AND THEN THAT TIES INTO THE INCOME LIMITATIONS SO WHAT IF LIMITING THE PROGRAM TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY PERCENT.AM I AM FOR THE FIRST FIRE AND FUTURE BUYERS BUTTS.ANOTHER OPTION IS TO ONLY LIMIT FOR THE FIRST BUYER TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY PERCENT.AM I AND REMOVE TEMPTATION AFTER TALK ABOUT THAT.THE GRAPH FOR EACH OF THESE SO THIS IS SHOWING WHAT IT MEANS. WHEN WE USE APPRECIATION TIED TO THE COST TO BORROW WHICH IS FOUR PERCENT SO THAT YELLOW LINE AT THE BOTTOM OF MY. FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY TWO THOUSAND THAT IS ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY PERCENT AND MY HOUSEHOLD CAN CURRENTLY AFFORD. THE HOUSE PRICE FOR BUYING ON THE MARKET THAT SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOUSE THAT MEANS THAT. THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS IN ASSISTANCE AND SO. OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD THAT HOME PRICE APPRECIATING FOUR PERCENT WOULD BE HAVE OR RESELL PRICE AT SIX HUNDRED AND THREE THOUSAND TIMES.I’M SORRY THAT IS WHAT HUNDRED AND TWENTY PERCENT AND MY HOUSEHOLD WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE APPRECIATION KEPT APPRECIATION RATE WOULD BE NINE HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND. SO WAS STILL REQUIRE CITY SUBSIDY OF TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS AFTER TEN YEARS BUT THAT NINE AND TEN IS STILL SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE ONE POINT TWO MILLION.IF YOU ARE TO ASSUME MARKET APPRECIATION WATCHES AND TRADITIONALLY SEVEN PERCENT.DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE THE TWO PERCENT OR TWO POINT ONE PERCENT A MAD INFLATION.YES READY SO NOT EVERYTHING ON THIS CHART STAYS THE SAME EXCEPT FOR THE GREEN LINE SO WITH THE LOWER APPRECIATION RATE. THE NEW CAP SALES PRICE IN TEN YEARS THE SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY EIGHT THOUSAND. SO THAT LOWERS THIS NUMBER HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR PERCENT FOUR HUNDRED AND FIFTY FOUR THOUSAND IN DOWN PAYMENT SYSTEMS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THAT SECOND OWNER.JUST A QUESTION J UM YOU DON’T NEED ASSISTANCE THAT WOULD NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME FROM THE CITY IN OTHER WORDS WE’RE NOT COMMITTING TO THEM. COMMITTING TO NECESSARILY FIND SOME BUYERS BUT YOU’RE JUST SAYING THAT THE GAP FOR THE SUBSEQUENT BUYER WOULD BE SMALLER AT THAT TIME MY APPRECIATION RATE THAN FOUR PERCENT RATE.CLEVER CLEVER HELP SURVIVORS A GAP WITH US OR SOMEBODY ELSE. AND SOME SOMEHOW SOULS WHO KNOW THEY MAY BE EARNING SIGNIFICANTLY MORE IN TEN YEARS AND MAY NOT BE A PROBLEM THAT MEAN MY CASE FOR EVERYBODY.SO HERE ARE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS WERE JUST TRYING TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST WHAT IT MEANS TO CAPITAL HUNDRED AND TWENTY PERCENT.AM I THAT MAKE SENSE SOME TABLES THAT SHOW THIS IN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY.SO DAN THE COST TO BORROW THE FOUR PERCENT SO THE FIRST FIRE HAZE OF SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. THAT APPRECIATES A FOUR PERCENT THE SECOND BUYER YOUR TENANTS THE NINE HUNDRED AND TEN THOUSAND NUMBER UM THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOMEONE EARNING HUNDRED AND SIXTY PERCENT.SO BACK TO YOUR EXAMPLE AND THAT’S THE MINIMUM THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT SO THERE ARE COST BURDENED. AND TYPICALLY IT’S A RANGE SO UNDER SIXTY IS THE MINIMUM WE LIKE TO HAVE SAY TWENTY PERCENT RANGE IN THERE SO BEYOND AND SIXTY TWO UNDER EIGHTY. AND YOUR TWENTY WITH THAT THIRD FIRES HIM AND TURNS OVER IN. EXACTLY TEN YEAR INCREMENTS THAT NEW HOME BUYER WOULD HAVE TO EARN HUNDRED AND NINETY FOUR PERCENT UP TO TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FOUR TWO O B. ASSUMING AM I STAYS CONSTANT OR ITS ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY PERCENT OF AM I AS AM I GOES UP. AS EMI GOES UP SO I’M ASSUMING THAT THURS AND AM I INFLATION OF TWO POINT ONE TWO PERCENT. SERVE THE REGIME OF HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IS THE DELTA BETWEEN WHATEVER THE COST OF MANY YEARS AND THE RATE OF MY APPRECIATION. AND THAT’S THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE ABOUT TO. SUGGEST THIS IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM WE’RE TRYING TO SOLVE RIGHT IS THE FACT THAT EMI GOES UP MORE SLOWLY THAN APPRECIATION. FOR THE CONTENT POINTER THAT ISN’T SUMMER AND MY INCREASE BASED ON WHO’S LIVING HERE RATHER THAN THE ACTUAL INCREASE IN WAGES. THIS MAY BE THAT SPECULATION.I THINK YOU’RE YOU’RE PARTLY CORRECT.SO AGAIN IT’S OBVIOUS BUT THE JAMMIES WHAT’S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE SO HALF THE PEOPLE ABOVE THAT HALF THE PEOPLE ARE BELOW THAT IT’S UNCERTAIN IF THE PEOPLE ON THE LOWER HALF.IF THEY INCREASE AT TWO POINT ONE OR FEE INCREASE AT A LOWER. RATE WE WE DON’T HAVE A MECHANISM TO TRACK THAT BUT I THINK THERE’S A GOOD ARGUMENT FOR THAT. AND THEN ONE MORE EXAMPLE SHOWING THE TWO POINT ONE PERCENT APPRECIATION SO AGAIN IT’S IT’S CLOSER TO. HIM I AM BUT THEY’RE STILL GOING TO BE A CAP THAT’S GOING TO GROW BETWEEN THE FIRST FIRE THE SECOND FIRE IN THE THIRD FIRE.SO THIS IS IN THIS EXAMPLE IF WE KEEP THAT UNDER TWENTY PERCENT.AM I AND EACH SUBSEQUENT HOMEBUYER CAN ASSUME FOUR TO FIVE PERCENT DOWN PAYMENT.THAT’S THE AMOUNT OF ASSISTANCE THEY WOULD NEED OR THAT’S THE AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL DOWN PAYMENT THEY WOULD NEED TO BRING. THOSE NUMBERS JR NOT INFLATION ADJUSTED THE WORDS TURNED TWENTY EIGHT GROSS NUMBERS TO TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS TWENTY YEARS FROM NOW IS ALLOW US TO TODAY’S DOLLARS. THAT WERE TO BE APPLIED TO TWO PERCENT FACTOR OF FOUR PERCENT FACTOR OVER TWENTY YEARS THAT NUMBER COULD BE CLOSER TO ONE THIRTY SEVEN IN REAL DOLLARS. DOLLAR YET OUR INFLATION ADJUSTED OR ONENESS AND THE PIECE THAT MIGHT. BE DISCOUNTED TO TWO POINT ONE PERCENT YOU COME DOWN TO ONE THIRTY SEVEN YEAR YES THOSE TWO HUNDRED TWENTY EIGHT THOUSAND DOLLARS IN TWENTY THIRTY NINE DOLLARS RIGHT.OK THIS AND THAT WORKS IF PEOPLE SALARIES HAVE GONE UP IN COURT AND THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY. SO THAT THE REASON WHY THE TWO POINT ONE APPRECIATION DAY MY INCREASED ONLINE A PERFECTLY LEGIT BECAUSE WE ALLOWED ON. THE REALTORS FEE OF TWO POINT FIVE PERCENT TO GET ROLLED INTO THE NEW SALES PRICE.SO EACH TO EACH SALE AND THE MORE SALES THAN THE GREATER QUESTION IF WE DO THIS THAT THAT HOME BECOMES PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE WHO DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE TO. CLEAR THE PEOPLE THAT CAN PURCHASE AND IS THAT US. THAT’S THAT’S PART OF THAT DISCUSSION I BELIEVE TONIGHT IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WANT TO TREAT THIS BECAUSE IT DOESN’T LOOK LIKE OUR OTHER PROGRAMS NECESSARILY. WHAT’S DEPRECIATION RATE FOR YOUR CURRENT OWNERSHIP UNITS. IT’S FAIR IT’S IT’S PRETTY CLOSE TO A MONTANA MY ITS CHANGES EVERY YEAR BUT AM I YEAH IT’S IT’S SLIGHTLY BELOW AM I. OKAY ACTUALLY THAT QUESTION WHEN YOU EXPLAIN HOW IT WORKS FOR THE CURRENT LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PER ML AFFORDABLE UNITS.I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE APPROACH IS FOR USE THIS SAME EXAMPLE THAT HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND THAT’S THE AMOUNT THAT THE CITY WOULD INVEST. IN THAT PROPERTY AND THEY WOULD AND THEN IT WOULD LOWER THE PRICE DOWN TO THAT FOUR HUNDRED AND SOME THOUSANDS. AND SO THEY INVEST AT THE BEGINNING AND THEY NEVER GET THE MONEY BACK BUT IT MAINTAINS THAT PRICE THROUGHOUT THROUGHOUT TIME AND THAT’S WHAT KEEPS IT AFFORDABLE OVER TIME. WHEN THEY LEAVE THEY HAVE TO SELL TO SOMEONE OF SIMILAR.AM I AND THE PRICE OF THE HOUSE WOULD APPRECIATE BY AROUND TWO PERCENT. TO HIT ANY OF THAT MONEY BACK THEY COULD SEE A PRIEST THEY GET THAT TWO PERCENT APPRECIATION IN SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT PROGRAM IN THIS PROGRAM IN THIS PROGRAM.IT’S THE PERSON AT LEAST IT’S THE FIRST BUYER WHO SPAIN HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND CARS ARE PAINTED BACK IN SEVEN TO TEN YEARS.SO IN ONE IN OUR CURRENT MODEL THE CITY INVEST IN THE PROPERTY IN THIS MODEL IT’S THE FIRST BUYER OR MAYBE FUTURE BUYERS AS WELL THAT THAT CONTRIBUTE OR SO. TO BE TO THEM THE WHERE THEY SUPPOSED TO GET THAT EXTRA HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT THEY HAVE JOBS THAT ARE UPWARDLY MOBILE OR FORTY.WHAT ARE YOU ASSUMING BECAUSE. THAT’S FOR SEVEN YEARS SO SHE JUST ROUNDED UP THAT TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HEAR. THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO SAVE WHICH WOULD ADD CONSIDERABLY TO THEIR MORTGAGE THAT THERE ALREADY ARE ON. THE LAND FOR THIS BUT BOB AND SAM MAY ALSO WANT TO WEIGH IN HERE. SO I THINK THERE’S A COUPLE OPTIONS ONE IS THAT THEY WOULD REFINANCE AT SEVEN TO TEN YEARS AND I DON’T HAVE THE NUMBERS FROM ME BUT I BUT I RECALL THAT THEY ARE.WE EXPECT AS THEY REFINANCED THEIR MONTHLY PAYMENTS BY ABOUT TWENTY PERCENT SO THERE WOULD BE AN EXPECTATION THAT THEY WOULD BE TO HIRE AM I IN SEVEN TO TEN YEARS.THE OTHER IS OFTEN NOT HOME SELL IN SEVEN TO TEN YEARS AND THEN AT THE SALE THEY WOULD THEY WOULD PAY IT BACK TO THE CITY. AND THEN IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT SITUATION WITH THE SECOND FIRE.WHILE I FINISH THIS UP SO. THEY’RE OBVIOUSLY OBVIOUS RISKS AND ALSO BENEFITS TO THIS PROGRAM SO JUST TRY TO SUMMARIZE THE KEY ONES AVERAGE HIGHER INTEREST RATES BUT WE ARE IN A HISTORICALLY LOW INTEREST RATE PERIOD.IF THOSE RATES WOULD GO UP SIGNIFICANTLY THAT WOULD POSE SIGNIFICANT RISKS TO BOTH THE CITY AND THE HOMEOWNER TO HOMEOWNER REFINANCING SCENARIOS OCCUR TALKED ABOUT. THE NICE THING ABOUT THE HIGHER APPRECIATION RATE IF YOU WANT WITH A FOUR PERCENT IS THAT HELPS KEEP THE CITY’S BORROWING COSTS LOW MAKES THAT. FUNDING MECHANISM MORE SUSTAINABLE AND ALSO BENEFITS FIRST TIME BUYER BECAUSE THEY CAN GET HIGHER SALES PRICE AT THE END OF THE TERM. OVER THE LOWER INTEREST RATE WOULD INCREASE THE CITY’S BORROWING COSTS MAKE IT LESS SUSTAINABLE APPRECIATION.YES AND THEN IT GETS THE HOME MORE AFFORDABLE FOR FUTURE HOMEOWNERS AND THE NAME UNLIMITED HUNDRED AND TWENTY PERCENT FOR EACH KEEP IT AT THAT BUT THAT SPINSTER TRADITIONALLY HOW WE’VE HANDLED THEM.MIDDLE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS ARE IN IT TO SPECIFIC HOUSEHOLDS BUT IF YOU DID TO ELIMINATE THE EMI AND ASSET LIMITS THAT WOULD ALLOW THE PROGRAM TO BE MORE FINANCIALLY SUSTAINABLE. AND STILL CREATE HOMES THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE AFFORDABLE THAN MARKET RATE HOMES LIKE WE SHOULD MY CRAFTS SO THAT. IS JUST A QUICK SUMMARY HERE’S THE BALLOT MEASURE LANGUAGE WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT’S THE PLANKS. JUST TALK ABOUT THE TOTAL AMOUNT WHICH CURRENTLY UNDER DISCUSSION IS ABOUT TEN MILLION WITH A FIVE PERCENT INTEREST RATE CAN WRITE ABOUT AND THEN HERE ARE PAST YEAR QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS QUESTIONS AARON THE BARON BALL THAT MARY SUU KYI COULD BACK A COUPLE SONGS. TO HEAR THE CASE IF WE IF WE ASSUME THIS CASE WHERE THE APPRECIATION USING MY RATES SO THEY ARE STILL THE ASSISTANCE NEEDED.RIGHT SO IF WE KEPT OUR AM I A RESTRICTION ON THE PROPAGANDA THAT ONE OF HER POINTS FOR DISCUSSION BUT IF WE KEEP ARE A MIGHTY RESTRICTION ON THE PROPERTY. THAN A FUTURE BUYER WILL STILL NEED A SUBSIDY FROM THE CITY.RIGHT SO THAT IF IF IN THAT CASE WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO. WE WOULD RECOUP THE AMOUNT THAT THE CITY HAD PUT IN WHEN THEY SELL IT BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO. RETURN IT TO THE NEXT BUYER IN ORDER TO KEEP IT IN THE SYSTEM SET IS A TRUE FACT. THAT ASSUMES THAT THE ALL OF THE DOUBT DOWN PAYMENT IS ALSO FIVE PERCENT OF THE SECOND FIRE AT A LARGER DOWN PAYMENT.OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT BUT THAT WOULD BE REALLY THE MAIN FACTOR IN KANSAS YOU’RE TALKING TO OUR LOW AND MODERATE PROGRAM WORKS IF I CAN JUST EXPLORE THAT A LITTLE BIT.I MEAN IN THAT CASE. THE CITY DOES AN INVESTMENT UP FRONT RIGHT AND IT REDUCES. THE SALES PRICE AT THE BEGINNING AND FROM THAT POINT ON THE CITY STAYS OUT OF THE FINANCIAL MESS OF IT’S REALLY THE BUYERS. THAT THE PEOPLE OWN A CELL TO THE NEXT TREND THAT WE DON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT AND THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS THAT WE MAKE A FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION UPFRONT AND REDUCE THE PRICE.I KNOW THIS ISN’T IN THE DIRECTION I’M GOING WITH THIS WHOLE PROJECT AT ALL. BUT I MEAN COULD WE THINK ABOUT THAT LIKE COULD WE THINK ABOUT THE HUNDRED AND IN THIS CASE THE CAR AND FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. BEING A ONE TIME INVESTMENT POLICY THAT REDUCES THE PRICE TO THE BUYER AND THEN LET IT BE FROM BUYER TO SELLER TO BUYER AFTER THAT.COULD YOU DO NOTHING WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE OTHER CITIES IN THE US THAN WHAT PROGRAMS THEY HAVE SAN FRANCISCO AND L A BOTH HAVE PROGRAMS WHERE THEY OFFER GRANTS.SO BASICALLY IT’S AN OUTRIGHT GIFT BUT THEY DON’T HAVE THE DEED RESTRICTION BUT IT CERTAINLY. LOOKS GRAND WITH A DISTRACTION TO ME WOULDN’T BE INTERESTED IN THE INTEREST YEARS IN GETTING PROBABLY AFFORDABLE UNITS BUT ANYWAY LET THE PEOPLE THIS QUESTION JUST LIKE TO MENTION THAT. THEY NOW ARE LOOKING AT SIGNING THIS WAS WHETHER IT’S A LINE OF CREDIT OR USING SOME MINES IN SOME WAY WE IF WE BORROW THAT MONEY WE NEED TO PAY AT THAT.SO IF WE PUT HIM PERMANENTLY IS A GRAND CITY DOESN’T HAVE ANY MONEY TO PAY THE PRINCIPAL BACK HOME WHENEVER THAT IS SEVEN YEARS OR TEN YEARS. EXPENDITURE RATHER THAN A LINE OF CREDIT THEIR ROLE IN THE CITY AND NEED TO COME UP WITH THE TEN MILLION OR WHATEVER IT WAS BY THAT TIME TO PAY OFF. ON HER HIT BOB AND ME.YA ALLAH TO THREE THINGS. TO KAREN’S POINT LAST I AGREE WITH BOB I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH THE GRANT IS JUST THE MONEY JUST GOES OUT IN ITS PEN AND WE NEVER GET BACK. THE NICE THING ABOUT A LOAN PROGRAM IS IS REALLY THE ONLY. TRUE COST TO THE CITY. IN THE INTEREST IS THE INTEREST ON THE INTEREST OF THE WORDS WERE ADVANCING INTEREST FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. AND WERE EVENTUALLY GIVEN THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST BACK WITH US ON THE CELL HOUSE. OR REFINANCE THE SKYPE MIND THE COURSE OF BUILDING UP EQUITY ON THE FIRST MORTGAGE THROUGH THE PIT ON THE FIRST MORTGAGE.SO I THINK YOU COULD DO A LOT MORE HOUSES TO DO A LOAN PROGRAM THE GRANT PROGRAM PROGRAMS ONE SHOT DEAL AND DID. TEN MILLION DOLLARS ONE HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND TO DO THIS IN THAT SQUARE CUT IT.UM AND I STILL THINK THE SUBSEQUENT BUYER CHALLENGE US TO QUESTION A STAFFER JOHN ASHER ENTIRELY AGREE WITH WHICH IS ON THIS SEC THE SECOND BUYER SOFTWARE BUYERS WE WOULD HAVE TO FINANCE.I’M NOT SURE THAT WE’RE MAKING THAT COMMITMENT NOW I THINK WE’RE SEEING THE PROPERTY’S DEED RESTRICTED. THAT SECOND BUYER MAY OR MAY NOT BE IN THE CITY’S PROGRAM THEY MAY HAVE OTHER ACCESS TO DAMPEN THE SORT OF INCOME QUALIFY. MAY NEED ASSISTANCE FROM US BUT DON’T THINK WE’RE COMMITTING ALWAYS AND FOREVER THAT ANY OWNER OF THAT HOUSE THOSE WHO GET MONEY FROM US TO THE GREAT. COMMITTEE ONLY TO THE FIRST FIRE. BUT WERE DEED RESTRICTING THE HOUSE OF ONE TWENTY AM I A NICE QUICK CALL A QUESTION THAT I AGREE WITH THAT IS JUST AS. IF THEY HAD NO OTHER FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT STILL NEED THE CITY CONTRIBUTION. STUFF THEY HAD PARENTS OR SOMETHING ELSE WE COULD THROW IN EXTRA MONEY THAN THEY I MEAN YOU HAVE A HOUSE IS ARTIFICIALLY INEXPENSIVE TO BE VERY ATTRACTIVE HOUSE RIGHT. TO CREATE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM WE CAN CREATE A WHOLE BUNCH OF ATTRACTIVE HOUSE BECAUSE THIS THIS THIS SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND BOOKS ARE ABOUT THE HOUSE. WILL NOT APPRECIATE NEARLY AS FAST AS THE MARKET AND SO YOU HAVE FOR HOUSES APPRECIATE A MARKET RATE HOUSES DEPRECIATE MUCH LOWER RATE.AND WHILE THE C PROGRAMMING NOT EXIST THE MORE SUBSEQUENT BUYERS. HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO. MAKE THAT DOWNPAYMENT TO BE VERY ATTRACTIVE PLACE BECAUSE IT’S GOING TO BE THE SAME HOUSE IS THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET BUT BUT BUT KEPT A LOWER. CALORIC ACTUALLY HAVE A DOUBLE IMPACT BECAUSE NOT ONLY ABLE TO BE CHEAP. BECAUSE THE DISORDER WAS SOLD FOR CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY. BUT ALSO CAN ONLY APPRECIATE A CERTAIN RATE FOREVER WHICH IS GOOD FOR THE DEPRESSED PRICE AND THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT WE’RE SHEEP WHICH IS TO KEEP PRICES PRICES LOW. AT ONE OTHER QUESTION UM. THE UM WE’VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH WHETHER WE SHOULD CAP THE CITY IN MY GROWTH WHICH HAS THE ADVANTAGE OF KEEPING IT AFFORDABLE TO SUMMIT WON TWENTY PERCENT AM I. BUT WE DON’T KNOW IS TO USE A PREMADE DOUGH PERCENTAGE APPRECIATION SOLO. SHOW UP IS AT TOO LOW TO ATTRACT SEEMS TO ME THAT IN THIS PROGRAM WOULD HAVE TO HAVE HARDWARE THE PROGRAM NOW THE QUESTION WE’RE ASKING OURSELVES ULTIMATELY VOTERS IS. TO AUTHORIZE US TO GO AND BORROW UP TO TEN MILLION DOLLARS AND POTENTIALLY BE ALONE AT ITS WEAKEST ARE WITH US THIS PROGRAM HERE THAT YOU HAVE ON THE SLIDE. AND SEE IF PEOPLE SHOW UP IN OF PEOPLE SHOW UP AND I GUESS WE GUESSED RIGHT BUT AFTER A YEAR OR TWO WE DON’T HAVE A LOT OF TAKERS.WE CAN ALWAYS TWEAK THIS PROGRAM AND INCREASED DEPRECIATION RATE TO SEE PARAMORE TICKETS UNDERSTANDING THAT IT COULD AFFECT. MY LEVELS OF BUYERS BUT WE DON’T HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION TONIGHT AND WE DON’T TAKE THAT DECISION FOR PURPOSES OF L A MEASURE THAT IS PROGRAMMED PARAMETERS IS RIGHT. THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED BY FUTURE COUNCILS WERE HARDWIRED INTO THE TV. AND JUST ONE DIMENSION THAT WAS ALSO LAH WE TRIED TO DO THE FINANCING SO THAT IF IT COMES A POINT IN TIME THIS LATE AS TEN MILLION DOLLARS. IN YEAR ONE MILLION HAVE SCHOLARS SAY THERE ARE SIX THOUSAND EACH OR TEN LOANS YOUR TO DO THE SAME THING YOU’RE THREE AND EVENTUALLY GET YOUR TEN MILLION DOLLARS AFTER ROUGHLY SEVEN YEARS. WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT THAT WHICH WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IS IF INTEREST RATES WOULD SKY OF YOU HAVE A SAFETY VALVE THAT YOU CAN STOP THE PROGRAM AND IN ANY ONE OF THOSE YEARS.YES YOU MAY HAVE A COUPLE OF YEARS YOU’RE DOING THE THING IS YOU CAN STOP OF INTEREST RATES REALLY WENT UP AND YOU CAN OR YOU’RE SAYING WE’RE GETTING A NEW PARTICIPATION. SO LET’S RESET SO IT GIVES MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE STARS ARE WEARING IT NOW IN THE FALL.I THINK YOU MENTION THEM AWAY BUT HE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN EXISTING HBO PROGRAM H TWO O PROGRAM. TO RUN UP THE NEWS AND SO FOR THOSE FIRST FEW YEARS WE HAVE INTEREST OUTLAYS BEFORE WE. ARE GETTING PAID BACK YOU CAN USE THAT MONEY IS RESTRICTED TO USE THE MONEY TO PAY INTEREST FOR THE FIRST FEW YEARS.RIGHT THAT’S CORRECT YES. HEM IN ORDER TO CLEAR SO IF WE ARE ALLOWING TWO POINT ONE PERCENT APPRECIATION. THAN WE ARE GETTING BACK LESS THAN WHAT IT’S COSTING US TO BORROW SO THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL COST IS CLEAR ABOUT THAT. AND IT’S TWO FUNDS COULD COVER CERTAIN NUMBER OF LOANS. THAT HAVE YET TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE’S ACTUALLY THREE DIFFERENT NUMBERS ON TWO NUMBERS OR APPRECIATION CABARET WHICH SAYS. THAT THERE’S OUR COST OF BORROWING THAT ACTS AND THEN THE IMPUTED INTEREST RATE THAT WE CHARGE TO A BAR WHICH HAS SERVED TO WHAT WE COULD. PASS THROUGH IN OTHER WORDS WE COULD ASSUME THAT WE WOULD CHARGE THE BORROWER THE SAME IMPUTED INTEREST IS COSTING US ALL TO SEE OUR AWESOME IS FOUR PERCENT. TO CHURCH TOMORROW FOUR PERCENT THAT WOULD PASS A BOND SALE OR REFINANCE.OK SO BOB A COUPLE CAVEATS TO THAT.SO WHEN THE WHEN THAT FIRST HOMEOWNERS IF THEY GO TO REFINANCE THAT LOAN THEY WILL HAVE TO HAVE IT APPRAISED. AND SOLD IF IT’S A PRAISE IN AT LESS THAN THE INTEREST RATE THAN THEY HAVE TO BRING MORE MONEY TO THAT SECOND CLOSING AS WELL.YEAH I THINK THAT MATH IS RIGHT ALTHOUGH WE DON’T FORGET ALSO THE EQUITY THEY’VE BUILT UP THE HOUSE THE FIRST I THINK IN SEVEN YEARS.IT’S AN INCREASE OF TWENTY PERCENT EQUITY SO THEY STARTED WITH FIVE OR SO REMEMBER THAT THE PAYMENT.SO THEY’VE GOT YOU KNOW FOR FOR JUNK BUT YOU’RE ACTUALLY RIGHT IF HOUSING VALUES DON’T GO UP IN INTEREST RATE CONTINUES TO PROVE THEY COULD. GET UNDER WATER BUT THEY WOULD BE BLOTTED OUT SECOND POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE IS I THINK YOU’RE CORRECT ABOUT THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEFORE WE START THE PROGRAM.HOWEVER ONCE WE SELL TO THAT THAT DOOR ONCE WE WORK WITH THAT FIRST BUYER ON THIS PROGRAM. WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A COVENANT AND DEED RESTRICTION AND WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEFINE. WHAT THEY CAN SELL FOR WHO THEY CAN SELL IT TO THAT ALL THOSE QUESTIONS AREN’T HAVE TO BE ANSWERED AND THOSE WILL BE IN PLACE. FOR THAT I GET THAT I WAS SUGGESTING THAT WE COULD HAVE THE FIRST GROUP OF BUYERS WE DO A TWO PERCENT BUT IT’S NOT REALLY VERY. TALL LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BEING DONE YOUR DOOR AND SO WE MAY HAVE A SECOND GROUP OF BUYERS AND THAT WE WILL. IT’S A VERY NARROW BAND OF PEOPLE THAT CAN AFFORD IT.BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE IF WE RESTRICT THE AM I SO DREAD HUNDRED AND TWENTY PERCENT OF THEM I. INFER THAT THEY’RE NOT USING THE PROGRAM THEY WILL NEED A MUCH BIGGER DOWN PAYMENT AND FIVE PERCENT SO IT BECOMES A NARROW BAND OF PEOPLE THAT. CAN FIT WITHIN THAT WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES WILL. BE A VERY INTENSE AND ONCE I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON LISA’S EARLIER POINT ABOUT. TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR THAT YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO SAVE IN ORDER TO PAY IT OFF IN TEN YEARS.I DON’T EVEN KNOW MY QUESTION HERE BUT UM SO THAT’S THAT’S THAT’S. TO TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT YOU HAVE TO SAVE UP AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU HAVE AN HOA PAYMENT THAT IS ALSO GOING UP.HOW DOES THAT COME JUST LOOKING HERE AT ZILLOW AND MOST OF THE PLACES THAT ARE FOR SALE FROM SIX THOUSAND ARE UNDER OUR CONDOMINIUMS WHICH WILL PROBABLY HAVE HOA FEES.SO YOU’RE LOOKING AT THAT YOU’RE TRYING TO SAVE TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THEN AFTER TEN YEARS YOU HAVE TO PAY BACK A HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. HOW IS THAT NOT WHAT GOT US INTO TROUBLE IN TWO THOUSAND HE SAID WHEN YOU REFINANCE.I’M SICKONE ALTERNATIVE IS TO SAVE TWENTY THOUSAND THE YEAR AND YOU CAN PAY DOWN THE ENTIRE PRINCIPLE. BY CUSHING IS HOW DO YOU SAVE TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR. AND MONTH IN CHINA CERTAINLY HAVE TO BECAUSE YOU COULD REFINANCE WITH A PRIVATE LENDER PRESUMABLY BUILT UP MORE EQUITY AT THAT POINT. AND SO GETTING THE SEC MAY NOT BE NEARLY AS HARD AS IT WAS TO MAKE THE DOWNPAYMENT GET A SECOND TO FIRST TIME.SO WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS COME AND AT LEVELS OF A SECOND MORTGAGE.THERE WERE TWO PARTS TO THAT. ONE IS THE PERSON DOESN’T HAVE TO SERVICE THAT MORTGAGE SO THEY DON’T HAVE TO PAY THE INTEREST PAYMENT. ON THE SECOND ONE HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED ALL AT ONCE AND SEVEN IN TEN YEARS.BUT IF A REFINANCE WITH A BANK LOAN SO THEY HAVE MORE EQUITY IN THE HOME AFTER SEVEN YEARS STRAIGHT BECAUSE THEY’RE PRESUMABLY BUILDING EQUITY OFF THE DOWN PAYMENT. AND PRESUMABLY EARNING MORE AND POTENTIALLY HOPEFULLY MORE RIGHT. BUT IT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO REFINANCE INTO A SECOND WITH A PRIVATE LENDER WHICH THEY WOULD THEN EITHER PAY INTEREST ONLY PAYMENTS ON PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST.SO WHAT WE’VE GIVEN THEM IS A TIME OUT.THERE’S A PERIOD OF SEVEN YEARS WHERE THEY DID NOT HAVE TO SERVICE THE SECOND MORTGAGE THAT THEY HAVE ON HOW. TO WEAR THAT THEY SAVE UP TWENTY THOUSAND YEARS STATE CAN PAY THE WHOLE THING OFF OR WHETHER THEY USE PREPACKAGED LONER FIRST AND SECOND. IN SEVEN YEARS AND AS YOU SAY A LOT OF THINGS WILL CHANGE. AND IT CAN BE MAKING UP THEIR MIND BUT I WOULDN’T THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO SAY BUT TWENTY THOUSAND A YEAR THERE’S NO. WAY TO HAVE A BANK PAY US BACK OR IF THEY’VE SAVED UP FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS THAN THEY ONLY REFINANCE ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND IN JUST A DENTIST NIGHTMARES. TO MARY’S POINT I THINK WHAT GOT PEOPLE DRAWN TO DESIGNATE AS THEY WERE SIMILAR ASSUMPTIONS BUT THEN PROPERTY VALUES WENT DOWN. AND SAY WE HAVE TO KEEP A CAREFUL EYE HERE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY VALUES GO DOWN YOU CAN REFINANCE WITH THOSE TERMS AND YOU HAVE A BIG SWELL. AND OR INTEREST RATES CAN GO WAY UP.THAT’S THE OTHER THING YOU KNOW YOU WHY WOULD YOU REFINANCE TO A HIGHER INTEREST RATE EXPENSE IF I COULD JUST GIVE A LITTLE MORE CLARITY ON THAT.SO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT SAM HAD SAID THAT YOU WILL PAY DOWN. SOME OF YOUR PRINCIPAL OVER THAT TIME WHEN YOU REFINANCE AN EXAMPLE THAT WE GAVE HEAR YOUR MONTHLY PAYMENTS WOULD GO UP A LITTLE OVER FOUR HUNDRED DOLLARS PER MONTH. ASSUMING THE INTEREST RATE IS THE SITE SO YOU COULD EITHER SAY THE TWENTY THOUSAND PER YEAR OR YOU COULD BE IN A POSITION WORRY OR. REFINANCE AT THE SAME RATE AND HAVE FOUR HUNDRED DOLLAR HIGHER MONTHLY PAYMENTS ON YOUR MORTGAGE. SOAK THIRTY YEARSIT WAS INTERESTING THE MAYOR WAS A PRINCIPAL INTERESTS.THE FOUR HUNDRED INSULIN AND THAT’S JUST A CONVENTIONAL ARMY IS ANOTHER OPTION FOR PEOPLE WHO. ARE HAVING TO MAKE THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS IS A SECOND THAT INTEREST ME. AND THAT’S KIND OF WHAT WE KNOW AFTER SIX MONTHS TO COME AND IT FIGURED OUT WITH THE BANKS IS THEY COULDN’T DO THAT CAN’T HAVE IT BE. OF SERVICE HAVE IT BE LIKE A BALLOON PAYMENT WEAR THEM TO GET THE PAYMENT AT THE END OF THE INTEREST RATE. AND BECAUSE THEY COULDN’T DO THAT AND THEY HAVE ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS ON BANKING ALL BUT PREVENTED THEM FROM DOING THAT. WE CAME UP WITH THE APPROACH WHERE WE DRAW DOWN THE LINE OF CREDIT WE LOAN MONEY TO HOMEBUYERS DON’T HAVE TO SERVICE WITH EVEN AN INTEREST ONLY PAYMENT.SO IT’S KEEPING THEIR MONTHLY COST FOR AT LEAST THAT TIME DOWN AND YET THEY DO HAVE TO BUILD UP. SOMETHING THAT CAN EITHER PAY IT BACK OR REFINANCE IT BUT THAT’S. PART OF THE REASON FOR THE HOMEOWNER EDUCATION COMPONENT OF THIS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO DO CHOOSE TO USE THIS PROGRAM GOING WITH HER EYES WIDE OPEN TEN YEAR ISN’T.THERE ARE LONGER ARMS WHICH MADE ME WANT TO BE IN THE THIRTY YEAR LOAN GAME BUT IT WAS TEN YEARS WAS JUST A PERIOD OF TIME WE THOUGHT WE’D GIVE. HOMEBUYERS TIME TO GET THEMSELVES READY FOR THE CHANGES YET TO DO SOME REALLY QUICK MATH HERE IN THIS DESTRUCTION AND CRACKED. MY BROTHER AND A ONE THE HOMEOWNER’S EQUITY IS THIRTY THOUSAND RIGHT TO BRING A FIVE PERCENT.THAT’S WHEN REQUESTED THIRTY THOUSAND OATH THE OTHER FIVE HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND GO TO THE BANK SO THAT THEY OWED US.OK GET YOUR TAN.TWO THINGS HAVE HAPPENED WHICH ARE GOING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTION BOTH THE HOMEOWNER PROPERTY IS NOW APPRECIATED FROM SIX THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND SEVENTY S NO. PRESUMPTION IS THAT RESEMBLED ONLY GO UP GO DOWN TO WRITE MARY COULD HAVE DIFFERENT SITUATION.SO ALREADY THE PICKUP HUNDRED AND FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IN EQUITY.THAT’S THEIR MONEY GOES INTO THEIR POCKET. ADDITION TO THAT THE FIRST MORTGAGE WHICH WAS ABOUT FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT HOURS CAMERA CORRECTLY HAS BEEN GRADUALLY PAID OUT OVER THE COURSE OF TEN YEARS. IN TEN YEARS OF FOUR THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND MORTGAGES CAN BE DONE ABOUT THREE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO THE O’S BEEN TO TWO THOUSAND TO THE FIRST BANK TO LOWELL HUNDRED HUNDRED OF US THAT IF IT DOES NO TO SOMEBODY’S HOUSE IS NOW WORTH SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND. THIRTY THOUSAND OR EQUITY TO SCREW OVER TEN YEARS IT DID EIGHT TIMES IS NOW. UNDER FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN EQUITY RATHER THAN THE ORIGINAL THIRTY AND SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE A DIFFICULTY REFINANCING. LOT ON CERTAIN IS I DON’T KNOW INTEREST RATES CAN BE TEN YEARS FROM NOW. NO OTHER INCOME SITUATION MAYBE THEY GOT LAID OFF SO THERE CERTAINLY IS RISK WITH US THROUGH ALL HOMEOWNERSHIP RISK POINT IS IS. ACTUALLY A MULTIPLIER EFFECT ON THE INITIAL DOWN PAYMENT WHICH WERE HELPING THEM GET UP.SO THE RENT FOR THE RE THAT WAS A GOOD EXPLANATION. SO THE READY FOR A TEN YEAR LOAN OR SEVEN YEAR LOAN WOULD BE THE SAME AS IF YOU. DID LIKE THIRTY YEAR LOAN IN TERMS THAT THE AMOUNT PER MONTH YOU’D HAVE TO PAY. TO HAUL A TEN YEAR LOAN PRODUCTS ARE. TYPICALLY THIRTY YEAR AMORTIZATION TO TRY TO GET A NEW BALLOON SO YOU’RE SAYING WELL I KNOW I MEAN USUALLY PEOPLE DO THIRTY YEAR MORTGAGES. AND SO YOU KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT YEAR. MORTGAGE THE MONTHLY MORTGAGE PAYMENT IS CAN BE OVER THAT THIRTY YEARS SO I’M ASKING NOW WE’RE COMPRESSING IT TO TEN YEARS AGO FORESTED HOW HOW DO WE ESTABLISH. RE MORTGAGE THE FIRST MORTGAGE SO THE THIRTY YEAR MORTGAGE RATE FIRST MORTGAGES AND CHANGES TO ITS RE MORTGAGE YOUR TENDENCIES TO IN THE HOUSE. GONE ALONG WITH THE MORTGAGE REFINANCED WITH US ON THERE THAT ARE UM IT’S ONLY INTEREST IN ANY WAY THAT. THERE’S NO PRINCIPLE BE DOWN AT ALL UNTIL THE VERY END OK SO THAT ATROCIOUS ACCUMULATES WE JUST KEEP TRACK OF IT. AT THE VERY END OF THE TEN YEARS OF EVANS’ HOUSE THE POINT I’M THE REFINANCE.OK THE KEY JUST REFINANCE ARE PART OF IT OK FOR THE FESTIVAL PACKAGES THAT WISH WHATEVER WHATEVER MAKES THE MOST ECONOMIC SENSE. IF A YOU’RE A FINANCIAL PACKAGE PURSUE HIS MO THIRTY YEAR MORTGAGE MORTGAGE RATE IS RESET AMORTIZATION. THE RE FASCIST ARE PART OF SAM SAID BUT THEY PROBABLY CAN DO IS GO CLIMB A CREDIT LINE OF CREDIT.THOSE ARE TYPICALLY INTEREST ONLY IN THOSE TYPICALLY TO OUR TEN YEAR TERMS.THE TEN YEAR WINDOW AND YOU DRAW DOWN WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DRAW DOWN AND YOU PAY INTEREST ONLY ON THAT AND THERE’S A BLUE IN THE NEXT. THE NEXT TEN YEARS SO ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS WE LEARNED OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS WAS THAT EVEN IN THE HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAM.THE AVERAGE TEN YEARS ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.I REMEMBER THAT RIGHT.EVEN WITH THE ASSISTANCE FOLKS GENERALLY ARE MOVING ON INTO A DIFFERENT SITUATION THAN THAT LIFE EVEN WHEN THAT DAY AND THIS PREVIOUS HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAM. SO WE SET THE TIME TEN YEARS JUST SO THAT IT WOULD BE LONGER THAN THE AVERAGE TENURE TIME AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.DOUBTLESS THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO WILL GET THERE AND NEED TO REFINANCE BUT THEN ALSO. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF A SEVEN YEAR AVERAGE DOUBTLESS THERE’LL BE PEOPLE WHO SELL AFTER FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. AND THEY HAVE EVERY REASON TO CAUSE WHETHER RESET THE INTEREST RATE AT TWO PERCENT TO FOUR PERCENT APPRECIATION RATE THAT THEY CAN MAKE. THEY CAN PROBABLY MAKE MORE THAN A CONVENTIONAL BOULDER HOME IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO GET INTO IT SO. THIS GIVES THEM A FOOTHOLD TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN THERE APPRECIATING SHOULD HISTORY BE IN A GUIDE AT ABOUT SEVEN PERCENT A YEAR.OKAY I’M READY TO GIVE MY OPINIONS.I UNDERSTAND ENOUGH TO HAVE AN OPINION ARE THE FOLKS LET’S DO IT FIRST FELL IN A FEW THAT I WOULD GO WITH THIS NUMBER. TO POINT ME I THINK WE NEED TO SELL TO THE BUYERS ALSO NEED TO SALT IT ADD TO THE FOLKS ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR IT AND SO. I THINK WHAT WE’RE WHAT WE’RE DOING YEAR IS FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET AN AFFORDABLE HARLEY AFFORDABLE PRODUCT FOR MIDDLE INCOME BUYERS.OK WELL THATS IT SEEMS TO ME BASED IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY AS OF THE IF. THAT THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT COSTS THE CITY A LITTLE BIT MORE BUT IT GUARANTEES AFFORDABLE THE LONGER AND I THINK THAT’S WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO INVEST. I WOULD ALSO CHANGE THE NAPPY CHANGE HOW WE BREAK THE BALLOT MEASURE BUT MOST PEOPLE HERE.I MEAN I HAVE THOUGHTS. TO THE TRADE OFF IF YOU DO THIS ALONE NUMBER I THINK WE NEED TO BE WILLING TO REVISIT BASED ON OUR SUBSCRIPTION RATE BECAUSE. THIS COULD BE DISCOURAGING TO POTENTIAL HOME HOMEOWNERS WHO WOULD ENTER THIS PROGRAM AND SO I DON’T KNOW IF THE NUMBERS THREE PERCENT OR FOUR PERCENT OR MORE ACROSS THE CAPITAL.I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE BECAUSE IF WE DON’T ATTRACT ANYBODY.IT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE GREAT FORESTS CORRECT SO I MEAN I GUESS I WOULD START HERE. AND WE HAVE TO BUILD INTO OUR PROGRAM THAT GOES WITH THE BALLOT MEASURES. WE TAKE A SECOND LOOK IF IT’S THIS AND IF THIS HAPPENS STAND WE WOULD RECONSIDER. OR SOMETHING BECAUSE IT’S A PILOT A PILOT PROGRAM BUT SO YOU COULD JUST INSTANTLY START LOWER IN NC FOR A GREAT ONE I ALSO THINK WELL. THE WHOLE REASON WE’RE IN THE PROBLEM WE ARE IS PEOPLE EXCEPT EXPECT TO MAKE A KILLING WHEN THEY SELL THEIR HOUSE BUT THEN THEY. WANTED TO BE THIS TOWN TO BE AFFORDABLE TO THEIR KIDS. THOSE THINGS ARE AT ODDS.SO IF PEOPLE WERE MORE IN TUNE WITH HAITI.I JUST NEED TO MAKE A BIT OF MONEY ON MY HOLS AND PASS ON THE ABILITY TO LIVE HERE TO THE NEXT PERSON WHO COMES ALONG. THAT’S WHAT WE’RE INVESTING IN THAT PIECE WHICH DOES REALLY WELL SET. TO GO TONIGHT CAN ADD ONE THING ON THE RATE SO I THINK. THE WAY YOUR TIME AND AM IRATE YEARS LITERALLY THINKING ABOUT MEASURING THE AIM I WAS AND IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD I WONDER IF WE MIGHT INSTEAD DECORATE.IT’S A LITTLE I MEAN TO SAY WELL IT’S GOING TO BE ABOUT TWO PERCENT EXCEPT YOU KNOW WHAT. YOU’RE NOT GOING O ONE A YEAR TO YEAR BASIS UNTIL IT MEASURED AT THE CAN WE CAN WE JUST PICK A TWO PERCENT OR TWO POINT ONE PERCENT. AND THEN MAYBE EMI GOES A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BUT WE TAKE THAT RISK IS. TO MAKE THE SAME SUGGESTION OF MY CRUISE WAS AND I THINK I’D LIKE TO START LOW AND BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WE’RE SHOULDN’T KEEP ONE TWENTY AM I.TURNS OUT WE GET NO TAKERS.WE CAN ALWAYS REACH THE POOL THAT JUST KNOWING THAT THAT’S GOING TO BACK AN EFFECT ON SUBSEQUENT FIRE QUALIFICATION BUT I AGREE THERE ARE TWO I THINK. IT’S ALREADY PRETTY BIG TO SAY TO SOMEBODY. APPRECIATION CAN BE WAY LOWER THAN MARKET. AND THEN WE SAY IT CAN BE WHALE OR THE MARKET WEEK ENDING MAXI TELL YOU WHAT IT’S GOING TO BE. WHATEVER YOUR WILL TELL YOU WHAT WAS IN SOME YEARS YOU GOOD IT’LL BE LIKE THREE PERCENT SOME YEARS AS I CAN BE SO GOOD TO BE ZERO PERCENT WE’VE HAD ZERO PERCENT EMI INCREASES RIGHT AND SO I WOULD GO.I KNOW WE TOOK A LITTLE RISK BY PICKING A NUMBER. UM BUT WE HAVE A LONG HISTORICAL AVERAGES AND THIS IS A LONG TERM PROGRAM AND SO I THINK THE NUMBER LIKE TWO OR TWO AND HALF. KNOWING THAT WE MIGHT BE A LITTLE OFF IN SOME YEARS BUT OVER THE LONG RUN ARE PROBABLY WASH OUT.I AGREE WITH A FIXED RATE EXPLODED SINCE I COULD GO WITH EITHER TWO OR TWO AND HALF BUT I THINK SHOULD BE A SET NUMBER. AND THAT RANCHERS CAN BE DIFFERENT RATES OR YOU TALK ABOUT BEING A PILOT PROJECT. FORMULATION HERE WAS ASKING FOR AUTHORIZATION FOR TEN MILLION DOLLARS AND WE DON’T HAVE TO DRAW IT ALL DOWN CUZ IT’S A LINE OF CREDIT. SO THE OTHER TANGENT CREDITORS WEEK AND A MILLION MILLION TO MILLION A YEAR AS THERE’S DEMAND. AND WE DON’T HAVE TO DO ORIGINATION FEES LIKE WE DID WITH A BOMB SO IT’S MORE ECONOMICAL WAY FOR US TO HEAR IT. BUT I’M AND YOU’RE RIGHT THERE’S NO WAY YOU KNOW WITH ALL THESE. PARAMETERS AROUND THIS PROGRAM NOT HAVING UNKNOWN SIXTY INTEREST RATE WOULD PROBABLY BE A DEAL KILLER FOR PEOPLE JUST FOR THAT ONE THING WORSENS AND WAS. THE MASTER TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IN THE INTEREST RATE THAT WE ACTUALLY PAY LINE OF CREDIT.WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN THE BALLOT.THERE’S GOING TO BE A HIGHER NUMBER IN EACH DAY I REMEMBER BECAUSE WE BORROWING THIS MONEY OVER SEVEN YEARS CAUSES LINE OF CREDIT AND ONE EACH YEAR. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO BE WHEN WE CHECKED THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR OF THE CITY. THAT HISTORICAL RATE FOR LAST TWENTY YEARS I THINK CHERYL WAS AROUND FIVE PERCENT AND TWENTY FIVE YEAR RATE WAS ABOUT. A QUARTER PERCENT OF THE NUMBER YOU SEE IN A BALLOT ISSUE WILL BE HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT SO THEY CAN SPECULATE A MINUTE THAT ISN’T BUT IN THE RATE WE’RE TALKING ABOUT. DECEPTIVE BECAUSE REALLY BORROWING SEVEN YEARS IN FUTURE PAYING OFF ANOTHER SEVEN YEARS TOWARD TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAMILLE FOURTEEN YEARS OUT WELL SO MAYBE WE SHOULD GO TO A HALF. THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT BUT EVERY DAY MEANT FOR THIS FOR ABOUT ONE SO I THINK WE DO NEED THE BOTTOM OF HIS RELEASE A FIX ON THE STOVE TO MAKE TO THE BALLOT MEASURE.WE REALLY NEEDED TO KNOW THREE DIFFERENT VARIABLES RIGHT ONE HAS THE LOOKS OF HOW PEOPLE FEEL THAT TWO AND HALF.IT’S OUR HALF THE RATE OF LENDING HISTORICAL RE LEARNING THAT SOME APPRECIATION THAT I COULD BE TO. DEATH THE ONE THING I’LL JUST ADD IN ABOUT THAT IS IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO SERVE. IN THE FUTURE PEOPLE THAT MAKE A HUNDRED AND TWENTY PERCENT OF AM I YOU DON’T WANT THAT TO RATE TO BE HIGHER THAN THE AM I IF YOU SET IT TO.YOU’RE PROBABLY SAFE WITH FAT IF YOU GO TO TWO AND HALF YOU’LL GRADUALLY ERODE SOME OF THAT AND MAYBE THAT’S FINE. BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO WRITE IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE ALLOWED HIGHER IN MICE BY THE HOUSES OF HOUSING DIRECTOR.WHAT WOULD YOU ADVISE I WOULD ADVICE TOO. LET’S GO TO THE PEOPLE CAME TO BAT BUT I DO FOR MR. REVISIT IT FOR MARKETING AND WHAT’S THE NEXT QUESTION.WOOD IS ALSO THE STANDARD J L HUNDRED PERCENT I THINK WE WON TWENTY PERCENT YES I THINK THATS ALL BYE.OKAY THREE BALLOT MEASURE THAN A FRESHLY RE SOMETHING ELSE BEFORE WE GET THE VOUCHERS WHICH IS I’M CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES FOR PEOPLE IN THE PROGRAM AFTER THAT SEVEN YEAR PERIOD.I THINK THERE’S A CHANCE THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY FORCE PEOPLE INTO FORECLOSURE IF THE VARIABLES TURN OUT WRONG SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US CONSIDER THAT AND HAVE A SAFETY VALVE.I MEAN IT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD COST MORE RIGHT.THE REASON WHY BANKS FORECLOSE ON PEOPLE’S THEY DON’T LOSE MONEY. BUT I THINK WE DON’T WANT THAT TO BE AN OUTCOME OF THIS PROGRAM SO TO WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE A HARDSHIP CASE WHERE YOU GET A FEW MORE YEARS SIR HENRI WEEKS.I DON’T KNOW I MEAN I WOULD LOOK TO FOR ADVICE.SO WE HAD THE I WOULDN’T CALL A SIMILAR PROGRAM BUT WE HAD A PROGRAM FOR HOME OWNERSHIP HAS CREATED SEVERAL YEARS AGO. AND IN THE CITY AND IT BASICALLY CREATED A DEED RESTRICTION ON A SMALLER UNITS OVER TIME HOMEOWNERS FIND THEMSELVES IN A SIMILAR SITUATION.WE BASICALLY HAVE ALLOWED THOSE DEED RESTRICTIONS TO GO AWAY AND ALLOWED PEOPLE TO SORT BY OUT OF THEM AT THE ORIGINAL INVESTMENT THE CITY MADE INTO ITS OWN.THAT WAS AN EXPERIMENT THAT CREATED AFFORDABILITY FOR A WHILE AND IT SIMPLY PUT QUARTERS IN A SITUATION THAT WAS UNTENABLE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE’VE GOT ABOUT SIX OLD.WE’VE GOT A SMALL NUMBER OF THOSE ARE STILL LEFT MOST OF THOSE OF CONWAY.WOODEN SAID LOSING THE AFFORDABILITY WOULD BE THE IDEAL OUTCOME.I MEAN IT IS THERE. A TWO YEAR GRACE PERIOD OR SOMETHING THAT WE COULD ALLOW INSTEAD. I THINK THE CHALLENGE MAYBE WHEN YOU GET TO SEVEN YEARS IF YOU WANT TO SELL YOUR HOUSE AND YOU CAN’T FIND A BUYER FOR ME TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY PERCENT.YOU’VE REALLY PUT THEM IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION.I THINK IT WOULD COME BACK TO THE CITY REALLY REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN SOLVE THAT WITH ONE SOLUTION THAT PRESUMABLY A CITY SIMPLY BUYS THE HOUSE RIGHT.THE CITY BY SO FOR THE BRIDGE TAKES TAKES TAKES THEM OUT TO GET THEIR EQUITY.MATTHEW JUST EARLIER TO SEE SIMPLY PURCHASE A HOUSE OF THE GATE AT EXACTLY TEN YEARS WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT HIS NEW SO THEY GET TO TEN YEARS THEY CAN’T REFINANCE. THEY CAN SELL FOR WHATEVER REASON WE SIMPLY JUST BY THE HOUSE COULD CALL FOR CLOSURE BUT I MEAN WE WOULD WE WOULD BUY THE HOUSE AT AN AMOUNT. EQUAL TO THE APPRECIATION CAP THEY WOULD PAY OFF FIRST MORTGAGE PAY OURSELVES BACK. AT THEIR EQUITY WHICH IS ACTUALLY GOOD FOR THEM BECAUSE I HAVE A POT OF MONEY TO GO OFF TO PUT IT INTO THE HOUSE.HUM AND WHICH WE CAN THEN SELL IN THE MARKET OR RENT OR PUT INTO HER HOUSE.YEAH THAT’S CORRECT IF THEY CAN SELL IT WE PROBABLY CAN’T SELL IT EITHER FOR THE SAME REASON SO WE CAN BE LONG TERM HOLDER AND THEY MAYBE CAN’T WRITE OR. WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO INVEST IN THE HOUSE AT THAT POINT TO BUY THE PRICED ON THE GET IT SOLD. A GUESS THIS COULD BE AT NEXT YEAR SAYING IT COULD BE PART OF RULEMAKING AROUND THE PROGRAM BUT I’VE DECIDED. I WOULD PUT OUT TO COUNSEL I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE DIRECTION THAT WE NOT FORECLOSE ON PEOPLE IN TEN YEARS BECAUSE THE PROGRAMS DON’T WORK OUT FOR. AND I THINK IT’S AN IMPORTANT. THING TO BE LOOKING AT BUT IT’S ALSO PROBABLY THE CASE THAT FOR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF THESE THAT WILL BE SOMEONE WHOSE LIFE GOES INTO. A CONDITION WHERE THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A CHANGE. AND SO YEAH I WOULDN’T WANT TO BE OVER A COUPLE YEARS BUT YOU KNOW THE THING IS THAT IF WE’RE GOING TO BE IN THIS. WE HAVE TO THINK VERY CAREFULLY ABOUT THE RISKS TO THE BUYER AND THAT’S SOMETHING THE BANK’S POINT OF DOCTORS AS WELL. IS YOU KNOW THEY HAVE PREDATORY LENDING STANDARDS TO HAVE TO STICK WITH AND SO WE CAN TO PUT HIS TEN YEAR TIMEFRAME IS. KIND OF LIKE SECONDS THAT YOU CAN GET BETTER LEGITIMATE SEC PANTS ON IN THE PRIVATE MARKET. THAT DON’T RUN AFOUL OF THOSE PREDATORY LENDING STANDARDS THAT WAS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER BUT THERE’S NOTHING MAGIC. DID WE COULD CANCEL COULD SAY I’D RATHER HAVE TO BE TWO OF YEARS FOR FOURTEEN YEARS.I MEAN IT’S JUST IT’S OUR GENERATION. OF A HARDSHIP SOME DISCRETION HARDSHIP. EXTENSION OR WE COULD BUY THE HOUSE FOR THE FULL APPRECIATED THE MOM SEEMS TO ME THAT IS THAT THERE’S A LOT OF OPTIONS THAT WOULD PUT PEOPLE ON THE STREET. IT FOR SURE AT THIS BUT MY POINT IS TO THINK ABOUT IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO RATHER THAN GETTING TEN YEARS FROM NOW. AND HAVING PEOPLE IN OUR CHIP IN THEM THAT THE COUNCIL TAPPED I’M BEING LIKE OH NO WHAT WE DO BUT WOULD WE WHEN A FIGURE THAT OUT WITH. THE CRITERIA THAT WE REVISIT IF THINGS STILL SEEMED LIKE WE SHOULD MAYBE HAVE A FIGURE SOME OF THE SOUL OUT IN ADVANCE SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY’RE SIGNING UP FOR. WORK ARE CHIRPING AFTER GOING TO CONTRACT WRITTEN AND SOLD THIS YEAR CHOOSE THE WRONG TIME FOR HIM NEXT YEAR AS PART OF CREATING A PROGRAM. ON THE BALLOT MEASURE WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAFE RETURN TO THE LANGUAGE BUT MAYBE IF WE’RE NOT. ONE HUNDRED PERCENT SURE I WAS GOING TO SAY WHAT I’D LIKE TO READ IN THAT IS WE’RE GOING TO. DO THIS HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM FOR MIDDLE INCOME IN EXCHANGE FOR PERMANENTLY DEED RESTRICTION ON HOUSING STOCK SO THAT. HE COMMITTED TO GETTING RID OF IT. BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT’S THAT’S PART OF THE WHAT WERE. THE WOULD WANT TO INVEST IN THIS BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AND HOW COME I WOULD THINK WE’D WANT TO MENTION THAT. I DIDN’T THINK ABOUT THE WORDING BUT I WANTED TO PUT THAT CONCEPT.I THINK THAT’S RIGHT.I LIKE TO TAKE A BALLOT QUESTION AND BACK TO YOUR CONVERSATION JUST FINISHED. HIS SESSION TONIGHT TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU BUT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ADD THE BLANKS UP THERE IS WE HAVE TO HAVE AN INTEREST RATE SAID WOULD BE HIGHER EARLIER. BUT IT’S ALSO THE MAXIMUM WE PAID THAT AND SO THAT INCLUDES THE INTEREST SO I WOKE UP WITH CHERYL AND HER STAFF ABOUT. IT AS SHOULD WE CALCULATE THE INTEREST ON A SEVEN EURO TENURE BECAUSE OF UTAH THE YEAR.WE NEED TO HAVE A WAY TO PAY FOR IT AND WE NEED TO HAVE IT IN THIS. AMOUNT SO WE COME BACK TO YOU WHEN YOU WANT TO SEE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE. WILL COME BACK TO US HM OPTIONS ON THIS SO I THOUGH WHAT WAS COMPUTERS AS WELL WHICH IS GOOD BUT WHICH COME BACK TOO BUT. THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS TO MAKE IS THAT YOU REALLY NEED THREE NUMBERS.MOSLEY TWO PLANKS BUT THERE’S THREE FACTORS TO FILL IN BLANKS AND ONE IS HOW MUCH WE ALL BORROW WHAT A MILLION. BUT NOT TO EXCEED FIVE PERCENT OVER THE LIFE OF LOAN BUT THE THIRD IS THE TERM RIGHT BECAUSE OF TERMS CAN TELL US. WHAT OUR REPAYMENT OBLIGATIONS WHICH IS WHAT TABOR REQUIRES I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF TEN YEARS RATHER THAN SEVEN THAT JUST GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY.YOU KNOW AND DOESN’T THIS WOULD COST US MORE MONEY BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON HOW QUICKLY THE LOAN IT OUT NOW QUICKLY. TURN THE HOUSE BUT I THINK IT’S A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE SEVEN BECAUSE IT’S KIND OF SKINNY THAT’S RIGHT AT THE SEVEN YEAR OWNERSHIP AVERAGE.I THINK I’D LIKE US TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY TO LOAN THE MONEY IN YEAR EIGHT. IN YEAR NINE IN YOUR TENT WHICH I KNOW USE UP THE INTEREST CALCULATION FOR PAYBACK NUMBER THAT’S NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER THAT’S NOT WHAT WILL ACTUALLY PAY. A LAWYER ALL EXCITED BUT. ALSO THE TSAR TO SAY EXACTLY BUT THIS IS A MAXIMUM. HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THE WHAT THE TERM IS BUT YOU CAN EXCEED THE NUMBER HERE YET SO IF YOU SAY. YEAH SANSKRIT AND YOU CAN STILL DO A SEVEN YEAR PROGRAM. SHOULDN’T THEY BE ABLE GET MARKET APPRECIATION ON THE PART THAT THEY GET TO THE BASIS BECAUSE WE’RE EFFECTIVELY KEEPING. MOST APPRECIATING PIECE THE LAND. NOW TAMP DOWN THE BASIS OF THE HOUSE WILL STILL REMAIN THAT WHATEVER THE TWO RETURNED HALF PERCENT. BUT DO WE WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE INCENTIVES TO FURTHER IMPROVE THE STRUCTURE SO THAT IT LASTS FOR A LONG TIME AND ONE OF THE WAYS. WE COULD DO THAT IS A HIGHER INTEREST RATES ENCOURAGE YOU TO SOME OF THIS IN THE CAR PROGRAM SO YOU TALK ABOUT THAT TOO.YES SO WE HAVE UM WE HAVE A PROCESS FOR DOING THAT CURRENTLY IN OUR PROGRAM AND HE WOULD PROBABLY. WANT TO STICK CLOSE TO THAT PROCESS IT SEEMS TO WORK PRETTY WELL WE HAVE A DIFFERENT VALUE FOR THEM IF THEY’D DONE THE WORK THEMSELVES. AND IT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO MAKE UPGRADES AND EVEN UPGRADES LIKE CHANGING FROM CARPET TO HARDWOOD FLOORS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO IN THAT SPAN.THAT’S BEEN MODIFIED AND IMPROVED OVER THE YEARS ARE JUST GAS CT COUNCIL SINCE IT WAS THAT SOME GOOD FOLKS.SOUNDS GOOD TO ME WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE IN THE BALLOT MEASURE IN THERE IT’S JUST A DISTRACTION GET. PAST IT HAS TO BE WOOD AND WOOD HARDWARE WITH THAT UNDER TWENTY PERCENT CAN BE MADE BETTER TIME BUT I THINK THE WORST DEED RESTRICTED IN THEIR SUMMER SEASON STICK TO PERMIT AFFORDABLE.OK SO WITH THAT DIRECTION YOU DAYS TO GO WITH IT MAY AFFECT ALASKA MORE QUESTION.YET THIS IS A BUDGET QUESTION THOSE WHO WORKED AT THE EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND AND EIGHT SURE PROGRAM THAT WOULD PAY THE INITIAL INTEREST BUT IT’S AT SOME POINT. AND NOT THAT LONG FROM NOW THE INTEREST COSTS WILL BE MORE THAN THAT AND NOT THINK IT PAID BACK PROBABLY FOR QUITE SOME NUMBER OF YEARS. SINCE A BUDGET QUESTION TO HAVE TO APPROPRIATE THE FUNDS THESE FUNDS ON MY CONTINUAL BASIS ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT.YES I THINK WE DO. AND REPUBLICAN HAVE TO HAVE AN EYE ON AS WE DO THIS YEAR BY YEAR THE INTEREST COSTS WILL KICK IN FOR A LITTLE WHILE. SO WE PROBABLY HAVE TO WORK THIS INTO FUTURE BUDGETS RIGHT TO EVENTUALLY WORK THESE ENTRIES COST HIM. AND I DON’T KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GREAT SENSE OF THOSE NUMBERS SOME POINT MIGHT BE PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX YEARS OUT BEFORE WE RUN AND HAVING TO. TURN TWENTY WILL CARRY A CELL ON THAT’S VERY HELPFUL.GREAT THANK YOU I WAS JUST. GOING TO ASK IF WE COULD FUND IT OUT OF MAYBE IF WE MAKE ONE LESS ARM LOAN TO US MOMS WOULD WE BE ABLE TO USE. THE MONEY THAT WE SET ASIDE THAT WE BORROWED TO PAY BACK. THE INTEREST JUST THE DELTA THE DELTA IN INTEREST BETWEEN THE CAP ON THE APPRECIATION AND WHATEVER LENDING RATE IS JUST MY MIND FROM THERE.SO HE IS A QUESTION FOR KURT.WE RECENTLY DID JUST THAT WHERE WE BOUGHT BACK THE HOUSE AND THEN FIXED IT UP AND PUT IT BACK HOME ON THE MARKET SO WITH THAT MONEY COME FROM TO BUY IT BACK.SO EACH YEAR WE KEEP UP A SMALL POT OF MONEY OFF TO THE SIDE THAT WE USE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT IN WILL TOO.WE ALSO WORK WITH RESIDENTS IF THEY ARE GOING THROUGH FORECLOSURE PROCESS SO WE WILL ACTUALLY. CREATE AN INTERVENTION WHERE WE WILL GO AND OFFER TO PURCHASE THE HOME FROM THEM SO THEY DON’T HAVE TO GO INTO FORECLOSURE. IN THE HOUSE THAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT WE ACTUALLY TOOK SOME OF THAT SAME MONEY BECAUSE THE HOUSE WAS VERY POORLY MAINTAINED WOULD BE PROBABLY AN UNDERSTATEMENT.I THINK WE PUT ONE HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND IN TO BRING IT UP TO STANDARD AND DOING SOME ENERGY UPGRADES AS WELL AND THAT WE SOLD IT FOR JUST SLIGHTLY HIGHER.AM I AM SO WE WERE ABLE TO COME OUT EVEN IN THE END BUT WE RECOUPED. WE RECOUP THOSE FUNDS AS WE RE SELL IT. SO IT’S THAT THAT’S BASICALLY REVOLVING FUND AND I THINK I’M OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS I THINK WE’VE. THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WE INVESTED THE MOST IN BUT I THINK FOR DOING THAT TO READ MAYBE TWO TIMES A YEAR TO TWO UNITS A YEAR OUT OF EIGHT HUNDRED AND THIRTY HOUSES.WAIT A MINUTE SCI FI OF EDEN IS GOOD ENOUGH ANY LINGERING QUESTIONS AS THE GREAT WORK BY STEPHEN THANKS AGAIN SAM AND BOB FOR SO MUCH WORK ON THIS AGAIN. BOB DIDN’T SEE HIM FOR PRETTY NEW TO WORKING OK THANK YOU ALL FOR IT.I WILL BEIT’S A WAY. I KNOWI KNEW THAT IF WE ARE WRITTEN FOR THE PAIN. KATIE DOYLE OUR BUDGET OFFICER WILL PRESENT TO SIGN HIM PAY. GOOD EVENING COUNCILWE’RE HERE TO BUILD OFF OF THAT DISCUSSION AND IN MAY AROUND PAL ITEMS. IN THE CONTEXT OF ALSO PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS AROUND THE FINANCIAL AND FUNDING NEEDS AND HOPE TO HAVE THIS. CONVERSATION LEAD TO COMING BACK ON AUGUST SIX WITH A FIRST READING OF POTENTIAL ITEMS OF COUNCIL SO CHOOSES. ITS NEIGHBOR TO GO THROUGH I’M A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUNDS MOST OF IT WE’VE. ALREADY COVERED IN PREVIOUS BUDGET DISCUSSIONS ALL COUNTRIES THROUGH THAT AND THEN LOOK AT OUR CURRENT SALES TAX RATE AS IT COMPARES TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN THE SURROUNDING CORAL COMMUNITIES. AND BRIEFLY DISCUSS SOME OPTIONS REGARDING OPEN SPACE TAXES AT VARIOUS INCREMENTS. AND THEN TOUCH ON A BROADER CONTEXT OR OF CITYWIDE NEEDS AGAIN BUILDING OFF OF THE APRIL NIGHT. STUDY SESSION JUST TOO I’M ALSO PREPARING COUNCIL FOR CONVERSATIONS THAT’S GOING TO BE OCCURRING IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS SURROUNDING UPCOMING MASTER PLANS.SO AGAIN NOT NEW INFORMATION BAY IN TWO THOUSAND AND EIGHT IN TWO THOUSAND TEN RESPECTIVELY THE CITY ENGAGED IN DEVELOPING THE BLUE RIBBON COMMISSIONS. WITH THE EXPRESSED INTENT TO LOOK AT REVENUES AND EXPENSES WITHIN THE CITY IN THE FOCUS FOR THE RIPPING FLESH AND WINE WAS REALLY LOOKING AT TAX BASE.DIVERSIFYING AN EAR MARKING FOR CAPITAL ITEMS ONLY WHERE FEASIBLE.THE BLUE RIBBON COMMISSION TO THE REALLY FOCUSED ON THE EXPENSE SIDE HAND IN ENSURING THAT THE CITY WAS IN THE RIGHT BUSINESSES. AND DEVELOPING PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE WE IMPLEMENTED OUR PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING SYSTEM FOR THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS AROUND THIS TIME IS ALSO THE CONCEPT OF FOCUSING ON WHAT WE HAVE.THIS WAS IDENTIFIED AS A KEY PRIORITY WITHIN THE TWO THOUSAND ELEVEN BOND PROJECT. AND HAS SINCE CARRIED THROUGH THE LATER CURRENT MASTER PLANS WHICH YOU SAW WITH AN OPEN SPACE AND TRANSPORTATION CAN A KEY THEME THAT WE HAVE A LOT ASSETS WITHIN. OUR CITY THAT WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON TAKING CARE OF THOSE FIRST BEFORE ADDING THEM.SO COMING INTO TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN THERE WERE A LOT OF FINANCIAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS ON BASS SPAWN THE BLUE RIBBON COMMISSION AND THE OUTCOMES OR RECOMMENDATIONS. SOME OF THOSE I WILL READ THEM ALL BUT THEY INCLUDED EXTENDING VARIOUS SALES TAX. AND OMBUDSMAN IN PREVIOUS BUDGET LIKE I SAID AN INCREASING OR LOOKING AT OUR GENERAL FUND RESERVES. BUT AGAIN ANOTHER CAT THAT WE TALK ABOUT WAS REALLY IDENTIFIED IN THE BLUE RIBBON COMMISSION AND COUNCIL WORKS DILIGENTLY UP UNTIL THAT POINT. TO ADDRESS THE CHALLENGE WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS IF THE TEXAS BORN TO. BE RENEWED AND NINETY MILLION DOLLARS IF THEY WERE SO BY TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN BASED ON A LOT OF THE RENEWALS. AND REPURPOSE MAN EXTENSION IN DAYCARE FOR TWENTY THIRTY WAS ONLY AT SEVENTY THREE MILLION VERSUS THE NINETY MILLION.BUT AGAIN WE KNOW THAT WE’VE DONE A LOT WORKED THROUGH TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN THIS IS JUST REALLY SETTING THE CONTEXT. OF WHY BALLOT DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN CONVERSATIONS. AGAIN AND TWO DOZEN THIRTEEN TWO KEY CONVERSATIONS ARE OCCURRING WITHIN TRANSPORTATION AND OPEN SPACE. AT THE TIME TRANSPORTATION WAS LOOKING TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE FUNDING FOR TAKING CARE OF THEIR ASSETS AND THE TAB OR THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD. RECOMMENDED TRANSPORTATION MAINTENANCE TEAM WHICH I WASN’T REALLY APPEALING AT THE TIME SO INSTEAD COUNCIL PROPOSED A TEMPORARY TAX WHICH IS A KEY. DIFFERENCE HERE FOR A TAX FOR TRANSPORTATION TO SUNSET AT THE END OF TWENTY NINETEEN. THIS WAS APPROVED BY CITY SIXTY SIX PERCENT OF THE VOTERS. AND WHY IT’S BEEN SAID AT THE END OF NINETEEN WAS BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME WE WERE NEARING THE END OF THE TIME OR OPEN SPACE WOULD. BE TO ACQUIRE AS MUCH PROPERTY AND THEY FELT THAT POINT ONE FIVE WAS NO LONGER NEEDED TO GET OPEN SPACE. INSTEAD THE PROPOSAL FOR THAT BALLOT ITEM WAS TO SHIFT. STARTING IN TWENTY TWENTY WHEN THE TEMPORARY TAX EXPIRES SHIP THE POINT ONE FIVE TRANSPORTATION. FOR TEN YEARS AND THEN SHIFTED TO THE GENERAL FUND UNTIL THE END OF TWENTY THIRTY NINE AGAIN THIS HAD OVERWHELMING SUPPORT BY SEVENTY TWO PERCENT OF OUR VOTERS. SO THAT IS THE POINT ONE FIVE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD BETWEEN OPEN SPACE AND TRANSPORTATION.MOVING ON TO OTHER TAXES OR THREE QUESTIONS AT THE TIME THAT THE POINT THREE THREE. WITH ANOTHER PIECE OF THE CONVERSATION WITH AN OPEN SPACE. AND AGAIN AT THE TIME THEY FELT LIKE THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH MONEY IN THE POINT TWO TWO. WHICH INCLUDES THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER PORTION THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY JUST A CHANCE FOR HIM TO COVER THE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS REMAINING ACQUISITION AND THEN USE IT FOR PERMANENT KNEE BENDS. AND I CAN SEE HERE ON THAT GRAPHIC THAT THE DEBT SERVICE. SINCE TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN TO POWER FOLLOWING UP TO TWENTY TWENTY IS DECREASED BY JUST LESS THAN SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS THAT’S REALLY. THE STORY OF WHY AT THE TIME WE FELT THAT I WAS AN APPROPRIATE TIME CHANGE WITHIN THE POINT THREE THREE TAX. AGAIN SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE VOTERS APPROVED THIS BALLOT ITEM. SAID BECAUSE IT IS CALM KIND OF CONVOLUTED AND CONFUSING WHEN YOU READ AND WORDS I WANTED TO PUT KIND OF TIMEFRAME AROUND WHAT HAPPENED SO BETWEEN. TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN TO EIGHTEEN NOTHING CHANGED. AND THEN AGAIN YOU SEE THAT SHIFT BEGINNING AND TWENTY NINETEEN WHERE THE GENERAL FUND PICKED UP A PORTION OF THE POINT THREE THREE. AND THEN IN TWENTY THIRTY FOUR THERE WILL BE ANOTHER SHAFT AND DECREASING THAT TAX AGAIN TO OPEN SPACE AND INCREASING THE GENERAL FUND AND PROPER TO IT.SO AGAIN WE’VE SEEN THESE CHARTS ALL CRUISE THROUGH THAT THIS IS WHY OUR OVERALL FUTURES LOOKING LIKE UNTIL TWENTY THIRTY NINE. YOU’LL NOTICE FOR TWENTY NINE TEAM WE HAVE THE OVERALL SALES TAX RATE AT THREE POINT EIGHT SIX PERCENT. AND THEN MOVING INTO TWENTY TWENTY THAT’S WHERE WE SEE THE DECREASE OF POINT ONE FIVE PERCENT AGAIN THIS IS. TECHNICALLY BEING ELIMINATED FROM TRANSPORTATION BUT THE SHIFT FROM OPEN SPACE TO TRANSPORTATION MAKES TRANSPORTATION HOLE. IN TWENTY TWENTY TWO WE SEE ANOTHER DECLINE THIS IS THE COMEDIC ALTER SAFETY TAX EXPIRATION. AND TWENTY TWENTY FIVE TO TWENTY THIRTY NINE THE SALES TAX RATE REMAINS THE SAME SHIPS WITHIN THE DIFFERENT FUNDS COC IN TWENTY THIRTY. ON THE GENERAL FUND WHICH IS THE GRAY COLORED PORSCHE AND TWENTY TWENTY FIVE FOR FOUR YEARS HAS A DECLINE IN GENERAL FUND. SALES TAX RATE PICKS BACK UP IN TWENTY THIRTY BUT IT REMAINS AT THREE POINT TWO SIX IS NOTHING MORE TO CHANGE. AGAIN ONE IS PROVIDE COMMITMENT MINISCULE COMPARISONS WE SHOW THIS APRIL I’M CHANGING THE COLORS UP A LITTLE BIT TO. REALLY HIGHLIGHT THOSE THAT ARE WHAT WE CONSIDER CITY SERVICES IN THE BLUE AND THEN THE OTHER ONES WHICH ARE MORE ON CEDAR COUNTY WIDE SO. IF YOU LOOK AT IT AND THE CITY OF BOULDER DOES HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST TAX RATES OVERALL.AND SO WHEN WE BACK OUTS.BOTH THE COUNTY MEET THE SCIENTIFIC AND CULTURAL FACILITIES DISTRICT. RTD THE STATESTHIS IS WHAT WE CAN CONSIDER. OUR MINISCULE SERVICES THAT INCLUDE OPEN SPACE PARKS AND REC SAFETY BUT VARIOUS DEDICATED TAXES THAT THE CITY OF BOULDER AND OTHER MINOR STUDIES PROVIDE. YOU’LL NOTICE THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY SEVERAL COMMUNITIES ON THEIR CLOSE TO OUR QUOTE CITY SERVICES SALES TAX RATE WHERE THE HIGHEST POINT ONE FIVE YEARS AWAY.WE TAKE THAT OFF WITH A THREE POINT EIGHT SIX ACT THAT WE WILL MOVE DOWN TO THREE POINT SEVEN ONE YET. JUST A WAY OF COMPARISON BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THESE TYPICAL COMMUNITIES BUT I WAS CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES MIGHT BE. KIND THIS NINE PERCENT THRESHOLD AND I’M LARGELY ON NOTICE THAT IT’S ON OUR COMMUNITIES THAT ARE HEAVILY RELIANT ON TOURISM AND SALES TAX WITH AN ANSWER JUST INTERESTING. DATA POINT I WANTED TO PRESENT. SO MOVING ON TO POTENTIAL BALLOT INITIATIVES WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE LIKE I MENTIONED. THAT THE CONVERSATION IN TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN IT REALLY FELT THAT. MOVING DOWN TO THIS ON SALES TAX IN COMMAND OF POINT SIX TWO WHICH WAS YOU KNOW POINT A TO A FEW YEARS AGO WOULD BE SUFFICIENT. BUT THE FIRINGS IN WHAT HAS CHANGED ITS TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN IS THAT VISITATION HAS INCREASED ALMOST THIRTY FOUR PERCENT BETWEEN TWO THOUSAND AND FIVE AND TWO THOUSAND EIGHTEEN. OPEN SPACE BOTH THROUGH THEIR MASTER PLAN PRIOR TO THAT HAS DONE A LOT OF ASSESSMENTS REALLY BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE TRUE COST OF MAINTENANCE FOR THEIR WHOLE SYSTEM IS SO THESE INCLUDED TRAIL CONDITIONS. THE FACILITIES PLANS IN THE FLOOD REALLY TAUGHT HIM A LOT ABOUT THIS IS WHILE AND SO THE KEY TAKEAWAY HERE IS THAT. OVERALL THE COST OF MAINTAINING THE SYSTEM HAS OUTPACED EARLIER PROJECTIONS WHICH IS WHY THEY NEED TO MAKE. SOME REDUCTIONS IN THEIR CAREER BUDGET WITH ONE POINT SIX TWO PERCENT SALES TAX RATE. THEY HAVE BEEN PREPARING FOR THIS IT’S NOT THAT THEY JUST REALIZE THIS YEAR THAT THEY NEEDED. A LOT OF DOLLARS THEY’VE BEEN VERY PROACTIVE AND SOME OF THE STRATEGIES THAT THEY’VE USED ARE EXPIRING VACANT POSITIONS. IMPROVING INTERNAL PROCESS AS SCALING BACK OR DEFERRING PROJECTS OR PROGRAMS. THEY’VE BEEN REELING FOR THIS AWESOME ASSET MANAGEMENT AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM TO BETTER GRASP ON WHAT THEY HAVE GOING ON. AND THEN INCREASING THEIR RESERVES TO ACCOUNT FOR ECONOMIC FLUCTUATIONS THAT ONE OF THE WAYS WHERE THEY HAVEN’T HAD TO MAKE DRASTIC REDUCTIONS IS BY UTILIZING SOME OF THEIR RESERVES. ON TO MINIMIZE AND STRETCH OUT THE PACE OF REDUCTIONS OVER FIVE YEARS AND THEN THEY’VE ALSO BEEN PAYING DOWN THEIR OUTSTANDING OBLIGATIONS FOR PAST ACQUISITIONS. IN THAT LAST POINT KATIE WAS IN THE COLD WIND AND WAS PRESENTED TO US A FEW WEEKS AGO THAT THE JUST USING DOLLARS RATHER THAN PERCENTAGES THAT THE UM. REDUCTION IN DOLLARS COMING IN FROM THE DEDICATED TAX. REDUCED FROM ABOUT ACTUALLY FOR ABOUT THIRTY MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO ABOUT TWENTY ONE DOLLARS AND TWENTY ONE YEARS ABOUT NINE MILLION DOLLARS REDUCTION. OF US SEVEN MILLION OF THAT NINE MILLION IN HIS DEBT SERVICE AT SCHOOL.IT’S GONE AWAY AS I WRITE THE ONE THAT OPENS THE STAFF THE STAFF ARE HERE SO FAMOUS PEAK THEY CAN CERTAINLY JUMP BUT THAT IS A PIECE OF A HANDS ON.THEY ARE DONE MAKING REDUCTIONS QUITE YET THEY STILL OVER A MILLION OR SO. LEFT TO DO BUT YEAH LARGE PORTION OF IT WAS TO SERVICE SO SO UM THAN THE NET REDUCTION OF SICK THAT SERVICE OUT OF THE EQUATION IT WAS A TWO MILLION.I DID THE FACT THAT THE MISSION BUT THE ACTUAL DOLLAR REDUCTION WAS ABOUT TWO MILLION DOLLARS TO TAKE UP THE DEBT IS AT RIGHT IS HOW COMPOSED AND RATIONAL IN DISH.I BELIEVE THAT’S THE CASE.AM I TOOK THE HIGH WATER AND COOK ON OPEN SPACE THAT IS ROUGHLY THE NUMBERS ARE TALKING ABOUT WE HAVE PAID OFF THOUGH SIX AND SEVEN BOND ISSUES.WE DID ISSUED AND TWENTY FOURTEEN SO HE CAN TO MAKE PAYMENTS ON THAT DEBT SERVICE IN THE CHANGE. FROM THAT NUMBER WOULD BE WHEN WE APPROVED FULLERTON CA PURCHASE AT THE END OF LAST YEAR. THAT INCREASED THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE FOR HALF A MILLION DOLLAR SO JEFFERSON COUNTY DOESN’T HAVE ABOUT THE SHOW HAS AN OFFSETTING REVENUE ON OUR FUN FINANCIAL. BUT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE ABOUT THAT EXTRA HALF MILL AND FROM THE NUMBERS TO BE CLOSER TO TWO AND HALF A MILLION TO SIX WEEKS.SO AGAIN I WANTED TO PROVIDE CONTEXT OF EIGHT POINT SIX TWO THAT’S ABOUT TWENTY ONE MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY WHICH IS WHAT BOB JUST MENTIONED. AND THEY STILL CAN DO THINGS IN OUR MASTER PLAN WE WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THIS IS. NOT THE SKY IS FALLING AGAIN THEY PREPARED FOR A LOT OF THESE REDUCTIONS. BASED ON THEIR MASTER PLAN THEY’RE GOING TO BE ON AGAIN GRADUALLY MAKING REDUCTIONS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS STRATEGICALLY ESPECIALLY AS VACANCIES ARISE. AND THAT THEY CAN IMPLEMENT THEIR FISCALLY CONSTRAINED SCENARIO BY FOCUSING ON THEIR TIER ONE STRATEGIES AND ALSO AGAIN FOCUS SAYING TAKING CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AT THEM AGAIN. ON THE MAINTENANCE VERSUS SOME ACQUISITIONS OF THAT KIND OF PROVIDES CONTEXT ABOUT AND FOR ADDED INCREMENT WHAT WOULD BE ON TOP OF THOSE PRIORITIES. SUITED TO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS POINT WINE POINT ONE FIVE POINT ONE GETS YOU ABOUT THREE POINT FIVE MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY OR THIRTY FIVE MILLION ROUGHLY OVER TEN YEARS. SO REALLY BY HAVING THIS ANCHORMAN INCREASE WITHIN THE OPEN SPACE FUND.YOU CAN ACCELERATE YOUR CHAIR ON STRATEGIES AND INCREASE YOUR ANNUAL CIP BY ABOUT HALF A MILLION. YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE ANY REDUCTIONS AND YOUR HEAD COUNT SO THEY COULD SUSTAIN CURRENT STAFFING LEVELS AND THEN IF YOU RECALL. THE GENERAL FUND CURRENTLY IS SUPPORTING A NEW TWO EMPLOYEES FOR THREE YEARS FIXED TERM TO FOCUS ON. PRAIRIE DOG MANAGEMENT AND SOIL HEALTH SO THEY COULD THEN SHIFT THOSE EMPLOYEES FROM THE GENERAL FUND. INTO THE OPEN SPACE FUND WHICH IS ROUGHLY A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX MILLION DOLLARS THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO POINT ONE FIVE AND ON TOP OF WHAT I JUST SPOKE ABOUT WOULD GET YOU ON SUPPORTING TIER TWO AND THREE STRATEGIES POTENTIALLY. THERE’S ALSO THE POTENTIAL TO BOND AND INCREASE OR CIP BY A MILLION DOLLARS DECREASE THE SUPPORT RESILIENCE EFFORTS AND THEN ALSO FOCUS MORE ON STRATEGIC LAND AND MINERAL RATES ACQUISITIONS. TO GETTING OUT ALL IN MIND AGAIN WANT TO PRESENT PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT AND BECAUSE. WE DO HAVE SEVERAL MASTER PLANS AND STRATEGIC PLANS UNDERWAY BUT ALSO KNOW OF SEVERAL MORE THAT ARE AGAIN BECOMING A MASTER PLANS TYPICALLY LEAD TO IDENTIFYING. SEVERAL LARGE NEEDS WITHIN EACH DEPARTMENT SO WE’RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH THE ONCE A EVERY SCENE.ORMAN AS SCENES SUCH AS THE CASE OF TECHNOLOGY XX ITS INTERNAL FACING BUT ON LIBRARY TECHNOLOGY OPEN SPACE AMOUNT PARKS. CAN GIVE A FLAVOR OF ALL THOSE ITEMS ARE IDENTIFIED THAT NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING. AND THEN PREVIEW LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE COMING AND TWENTY TWENTY AND FINISHING UP IN THE MID TO LATE TWENTY TWENTY ONE WITH UPCOMING MASTER PLANS. TO GET IT’S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT TECHNOLOGY AND WHILE WE DO KNOW THAT DEPARTMENT THIS IS REALLY A CITYWIDE NEEDS WITHIN OUR TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE SO. AGAIN I CAN READ ALL OF THESE NEEDS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE MASTER PLAN AM HAPPY TO ASK OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT WE HAVE ISSUES LIKE CYBER SECURITY HIM.JAIME HAS A VERY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE LIBRARY PLAN THAT CAME IN LAST YEAR WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME DEFICIENCIES WITHIN THE NORTH BOULDER CAPITAL PLAN FOR FUNDING THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.YOU WILL SEE COMING FORWARD IN THE TWENTY TWENTY BUDGET DISCUSSIONS WE ARE PLANNING FOR. NOBLE OPERATING COSTS THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS IDENTIFIED IN THE MASTER PLAN IS UNFUNDED BUT WE HAVE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT THAT IS. A PRIORITY IN A FUNDED EFFORT BEGINNING IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE. YOU JUST HEARD OPEN SPACE PARKS AND TRANSPORTATION SO CANNOT GET TO READ ALL THOSE THINGS ON THERE BUT THERE ARE ALOT OF SEVERAL HIGH PRIORITY. ON A REASONABLE NEEDS WITH AND TAKING CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE OUR EXISTING SYSTEMS. TO MOVING INTO FUTURE MASTER PLAN NEEDS ON THAT ONE OF THE FIRST FEW THAT YOU MAY SEE HERE FIRE RESCUE AND FACILITIES. AGAIN OUTLINED IN THE MEMO THERE’S A GAP BETWEEN WHAT THE FIRE STATION COST WAS FOR CONSTRUCTION THAT THE GENERAL FUND AS CAN BE PICKING UP.WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE’S HIGH NEED FOR RELOCATING FIRE STATION TWO AND FOUR WITHIN FACILITIES.WE KNOW THAT THERE’S DIFFERENT FACILITY MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS JUST FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO WITH OUR OVERALL FACILITIES IN REMOVING SOME FROM THE HIGH HAZARD BUILDING. OR HIGH HAZARD FLOOD ZONE WITHIN POLICE TO ANTICIPATE.IN ADDITION TO THEIR FACILITY NEEDS HAVING A FISCAL OFFICER NEEDS ABOUT TWENTY FIVE THEY ESTIMATE OR THE NEXT FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS BEGIN. A PHASED IMPLEMENTATION BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE’S A HIGH NEED THEIR. PARKS AND RECREATION AND WE’VE LISTED ALL OF THEIR NEEDS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE TWO THOUSAND AND THIRTEEN OR FOURTEEN MASTER PLAN. AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE STUN GUN TO WITHIN THEIR EXISTING ONE AND THEN THEY’RE GOING TO BE UNDERTAKING AND OTHER MASTER PLAN PROCESS ON ACTION THAT. SHE LIED TO BY OTHER NEEDS AND THEN AGAIN INTERNALLY FACING.WE HAVE SOME WE’RE UNDERGOING A CLASS IN COMPENSATION AND START THE AFFAIR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ANTICIPATE THAT THEY’LL BE. ON SOME SEVERAL KINDS AND HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNTS TO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THERE. AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT HEALTHCARE IS ALWAYS KIND OF A LOOMING CONCERN INTO FIGURING OUT WHAT THE PUBLIC’S TAKE. ON HIS TO ALSO MENTION AND ANDREY WHILE A TWENTY TWENTY POTENTIAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING COUNTY BALLOTS AGAIN THIS WAS DISCUSSED THIS YEAR BUT ULTIMATELY NOT MOVE FORWARD SO. THAT BOULDER COUNTY REGIONAL HOUSING PARTNERSHIPS AND TENDS TO PURSUE A BALLOT IN TWENTY TWENTY. UNCLEAR WHETHER A LOOK LAKE. THOM A SALES TAX OR PROPERTY TAX INCREASE BUT THE GOAL IS TO SECURE TWELVE PERCENT. OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IS PERMANENTLY AFFORDABLE BY TWENTY THIRTY FIVE SO THAT’S JUST AMAZING TO CONSIDER AND THE BROADER ON SALES TAX OR TAX CAPACITY CONVERSATION. OR ANYTHING ABOUT AMOUNTS OF THE AMOUNTS THAT WITHIN THAT WERE RELEASED THE SURVEY HAD DIFFERENT YEARS AND FOR THE MOST UNDER HER DIRECTION HE POINTED TOWARDS THE TWELVE PERCENT GOAL.I CALLED UP FOR US AS WE MOVE ON TO OTHER GUEST NEEDS. THAT I THINK WE’RE AWARE OF THAT MAY BE COMING DOWN THE ROAD HERE OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO ON THAT IN CINEMAS ONE WAS. ALPINE BALSAM AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF WHATEVER CITY FACILITIES WILL HAVE THEIR WAY TO GET SOME NEW NUMBERS AT THE END OF AUGUST BUT THAT THAT’S THAT’S COLLECTED TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.NUMBER RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE HOW TO FUND. YET WE CAN CUT THAT KIND OF UNDER THE CATEGORY OF HIGH HAZARD BUILDING THE MOVIE I SAW AT LEAST GETTING CAUGHT OUT SO YES CAUGHT OUT.THIS IS REALLY STINKIN BIG NUMBER RIGHT.OK IN THE OTHER THING THAT WE TALK ABOUT LATER THIS FALL IS. A CONSERVATION EASEMENT LONG’S GARDEN IN SOMETHING THAT WE’VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT DOING AND I KNOW ABOUT THAT TONIGHT BUT THAT SOME OTHER JUST. APPREHENSIVE AS WE THINK BIG PICTURE OF IT TO ME SAID WE MIGHT TALK ABOUT IT TODAY.OH OKAYSO WHY ARE WE SEEING ALL OF THESE NEEDS A CONSISTENT PRESSURES INCLUDING INCREASING DEMAND SO I OREDI MENTION OF ITS BASES THAT HAITIAN. COFFEE RESERVATIONS ALSO A YEAR OVER YEAR OF INCREASED EIGHT PERCENT WHEN OTHERS COST ESCALATION SO CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE CONTINUALLY OUTPACED OR CPI. AND ALSO WE KNOW THAT WE’VE MADE POLICY CHOICES THAT ARE MORE PRICEY AND THINGS LIKE LIVING WAGE RATE THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND IT DOES COST ADDITIONAL DOLLARS. AND THEN WE JUST HAVE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE SO OUR YOUNGEST RECREATION CENTER.I THINK IS TWENTY FIVE YEARS OLD THERE IN SOME SERIOUS NEED OF SOME UPDATING TO KEEP RELEVANT WITH OUR EXTERNAL COMPETITORS.SIR CHALLENGES REALLY BALANCING PRIORITIES WITH AVAILABLE FUNDING AND WE’RE GOING TO JUMP INTO SETTING THE STAGE FOR TWENTY TWENTY VERY BRIEFLY AND THEN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. FOR TWENTY TWENTY OR TWENTY NINETEEN BUDGET.YOU KNOW WE TALKED A LOT LAST YEAR SPECIFICALLY AROUND THE GENERAL FUND AND BALANCING OUR ONGOING REVENUES WITH OUR ONGOING EXPENSES.WE DID HAVE A DRAW FROM FUND BALANCE FOR A ONE TIME EXPENSES WHICH I WILL TOUCH ON TIME IN THE NEXT SLIDE. FOR TWENTY TWENTY WHAT YOU’RE GOING TO SEE IS REALLY FOCUSED HOLISTIC LEE OBVIOUSLY I AM ENSURING OUR. ONGOING REVENUES AND EXPENSES ARE IN ALIGNMENT BUT WE DO FEEL LIKE WE’RE IN A BETTER PLACE FOR ONGOING REVENUES WITH THREE CLASSIFICATION OF RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA. AND THEN TWENTY TWENTY BEING A PROPERTY REASSESSMENT HERE BRIEFLY HOW WE BALANCE THE TWENTY NINETEEN BUDGE A TIME FOR REMINDERS.IT WAS ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE GENERAL FUND IN THE BUDGET. WE HAD ONE HUNDRED FIFTY TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUES ARE SALES TAX REVENUES OR PROPERTY CAN DO ALL THE REVENUES THAT WE I. TYPICALLY PUT INTO THE GENERAL FUND BUT WE DID KNOW THAT WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO AGAIN DRAW FROM RESERVES TO FIND THE IMBALANCE. OF THE UTILITY OCCUPATION TAX EXPENSES VERSUS REVENUES JUST BE SPUN HER PALATE WAS WORDED WE SAID THIS ADMIT NOT A BIG DEAL BUT THAT’S. A PIECE OF HOW WE BALANCE THE BUDGET BY DRYING FROM THAT RESERVE.WE ALSO KNEW THAT WE HAD TO KIND OF LARGE ONE TIME ITEMS THAT WERE OCCURRING IN TWENTY NINETEEN THAT WE. PLAN TO DRAW FROM FUND BALANCE CAME OFF THE SANTA FUND LOAN FOR HOPE AND COST AND THE SECOND ONE WAS KIND OF STAY.ALPINE BOWLS SOME PART OF THE HOSTEL DE CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY ORIGINALLY PUT IN THERE AND THEN CRIES MAINTENANCE WHEN WE TOOK OVER THE FACILITY IN APRIL. SO THAT’S REALLY I’M SETTING THE STAGE FOR HOW IT ENTRE NINETEEN BUT HOW WE MOVED INTO TWENTY TWENTIES BASE BUDGET. AGAIN YOU’LL SEE THE HUNTER FIFTY TUTOR HUNDRED FIFTY EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS SHOW UP. AND THIS IS WHAT OUR PRELIMINARY SOURCES ARE LOOKING LIKE I WILL BRIEFLY PREVIEW THAT AT ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY MILLION AND HE USES ARE DOWN SLIGHTLY SO AGAIN. REVENUES INCREASING TWO POINT TWO MILLION DOLLARS EXPENSES AND DECREASING ONE POINT ONE MILLION DOLLARS SO AS. THE EXECUTIVE BUDGET TEAM AND DEPARTMENTS WERE GOING INTO THEIR BUDGET PREPARATION REALLY FOCUS ON THE AVAILABLE FUNDING FOR ONGOING OPERATING COSTS AT THREE POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS. SHOW PODGE AS A BACKUP SO I PUT INTO THAT REVENUE CHANGE ON ONE WITH SALES AND USE TAX INCREASING BY THREE POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS. AND THIS WAS A PAR OF REVISIONS THAT WE’VE MADE TO THE TWENTY NINETEEN BUDGET AND THEN ALSO BUILDING. OFF OF THE TWENTY TWENTY BUDGET INCREASE OFF THE AIR AND THEN JUST RE EVALUATE OUR CONSTRUCTION NEW SPACES THAT BUILDS UP TO AN ADDITIONAL THREE POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS.AND AGAIN WE KNOW THAT THIS IS AN ASSESSMENT YEAR WHICH TYPICALLY PROJECTS FIVE PERCENT WITHIN OUR FUN FINANCIAL WERE ANTICIPATING SOME ARE AROUND FIFTEEN PERCENT.SO BASED ON THE ORIGINAL PROJECTION BRING IN A ONE POINT EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS WE DO SEE THAT BY REVISING THE ASSESSMENT. UP THAT YOU BRING IN ADDITIONAL TWO POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS. AND THEN I THINK WE MUST TOGETHER WHERE THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER REVENUE SOURCES THAT I WANT TO GO INTO EXCRUCIATING DETAIL EXPLAINING WHAT THE VARIANCES ARE BUT. ALL THOSE COMBINED INCLUDING RADAR AND ACCOMMODATIONS TAX AND AN ALL OVER FEES FOR SERVICE. NETTED ABOUT TWO MILLION DOLLARS ADDITIONAL THROWS VARIOUS SOURCES SO THAT’S HOW HE CAME TO OUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY POINT FOUR MILLION DOLLAR REVENUE SOURCE. TO HAVE TO PAY BACK THE EFFECT WE BORROW FROM THE UTILITY OCCUPATION TAX RESERVE THAT WE VENTURED TO PAY BACK.YES SO IT’S SAYING I’M WORRIED WE’RE DECREASING OUR RESERVES FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS AND THE UTILITY OCCUPATION TAX REVENUE EXTENDS PAST WHEN THE ANTICIPATED EXPENSES ARE SO IN TWENTY. TWENTY ONE TWENTY TWO IS WHEN THAT REVENUE WILL ESSENTIALLY PAY BACK THE TWENTY PERCENT RESERVE LEVEL THAT WE HAVE OF HIM AND LAST FRIDAY FOR QUESTIONS JUST AS A REMINDER. YESTERDAY THAT THREE POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS.WE DO IN THE GENERAL FILE AND HAVE HIM FOR YEAR TWO POINT SIX MILLION DOLLARS IN OUR GENERAL FUND CAPITAL THAT WE’RE GOING TO ALLOCATE A KEY PRIORITIES. AND THEN WE HAD ABOUT ONE POINT ONE MILLION DOLLARS IN AVAILABLE ONE TIME DOLLARS.IT IS IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT THIS EXCEEDED OUR AVAILABLE. SOURCES THE BUDGET REQUESTS EXCEEDED THAT AND YOU’LL SEE MORE AND SEPTEMBER TEN STUDY SESSION BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK PREVIEW AND ALSO NOT MAKE THIS A BUDGET DISCUSSION FOR TONIGHT.SO TWO QUESTIONS THERE AND DO YOU WISH TO PAY TWO POINT ONE FIVE FOR ANY GIVEN NEED AND IF SO ON.IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW HOW MUCH YOU LIKE DEDICATED TO MANY HUMAN NEED AND FOR HOW LONG IT GETS WORSE.MAYBE SPLITTING THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING SLASH CAPITAL AND NATURE.EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IS GOING TO BE DEDICATED OR ZAKAT WILL GO TO THE GENERAL FUND.SO EXCUSE ME I WILL BE UP TO COUNCIL WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO DEDICATED. THIS CAME UP AT COUNCIL AGENDA COMMITTEE WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT LONG’S GARDEN SO I GUESS WE ARE MENTIONING IT. IS A COST THAT WE CAN NOT PAY FOR UNDER OUR CURRENT. SCENARIO OF OUR BUDGET ARE OUR AVAILABLE FUNDS AND SO AN IDEA MIGHT BE. TO INCLUDE THAT BUT NOT MAKE IT PART OF OPEN SPACE BECAUSE IT’S ACTUALLY NOT AN OPEN SPACE ACQUISITION. AND AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO INCLUDE THAT IN A BALLOT MEASURE BUT YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO SO IT’S UP TO YOU. SO WITHOUT SPECIFYING THE EXACT AMOUNT THAT COULD BE WHAT SOMEONE HE WAS DIRECTED TOWARDS. THE INCORRECTLY THEN IN THE BALLOT LANGUAGE TO SAY FOR SOMETHING UP TO. FOR THE PURCHASE OR CONSERVATION EASEMENT OF LITTLE LONG SCARRED AND WRITE THE LAWYERS WOULD HAVE TO WRITE IT BUT YEAH IF YOU WANT TO DEDICATE IT.IT WOULD HAVE LANGUAGE SIMILAR TO THE GREAT GENERAL FUND OPERATING INCLUDING. MONKS COULD GET INTO WE KNOW A NUMBER FOR THAT WEEK AND I DON’T THINK WE WANT TO SAY THAT OUTLOUD. DISTRICT SOMEBODY DOES AS THEY GO TO AN ASSESSMENT IS OUR RANGE OR NO TO SOMEBODY WHAT TO SPEAK TO IT ON STUFF BUT IT IS AN ACTIVE NEGOTIATION RIGHTS.I THINK BETHANY CAN SPEAK TO ARE WE TO DO AN SS MAN SEVERAL YEARS BACK IT IS SENSED ESTIMATED TO DOUBLE AT LEAST SO I LIKE TO SPEAK FOR THAT.I THINK YOU HAVE ACNE CONS HAVE REAL ESTATE SUPERVISOR FOR OPEN SPACE MOM PACKS AND WE ARE.IT IS AN ACTIVE PROJECT RIGHT NOW ACTIVE NEGOTIATIONS AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH AN APPRAISAL.WE HAVE VERY YOUNG. WE’VE WE’VE BEEN GETTING SOME PRELIMINARY IDEAS OF OF THAT OF WHERE THAT APPRAISAL IS HEADED ON.I WILL SAY A LOT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE TERMS OF THAT EASEMENT LOOK LIKE CALM SHOW UP BUT. MANY OF WHICH ARE WHETHER IT’S PERMITTED TO BE AGRICULTURE OR IT’S REQUIRED TO BE IN SOME SORT OF AGRICULTURAL USE. AND THAT’LL BE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD WHEN ATTORNEY CITY MANAGER’S OFFICE THING SO RANGE WISE I WOULD COME UP PROJECT IT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM FOUR TO ABOUT NINE TO TEN MILLION DOLLARS.SO IS IT SAYS COMER ABOUT FIVE TO NINE TO TEN AG SUES SAYS A CONSERVATION EASEMENT CORRECT ISN’T IT CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL.IF SO THEIR PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE TO CHANGE THE ZONING.I HAVE NEVER HEARD THE APPROACH THAT WOULD BE LEE AND YOU SIR ABOUT THE A THAT WOULD BE A PLAYER IN QUESTION MORE THAN IT WOULD BE FOR OPEN SPACE TRAILS.THE QUESTION IS NOT CHANGING THE ZONING IT’S THIS CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT SMALL MOTEL MAIL OUT AN AGRICULTURAL ZONE WHO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER WE REQUIRE ACTIVE AGRICULTURAL USE. IS SO GOOD IS SEWED THE URN. PROPERTIES DOWN ON IRISH LIKE TWENTY SECONDS IN IRISH SET WAS ALSO ZONED AGRICULTURAL. AND I THINK IS ABOUT SIX ACRES MAYBE SEVEN AND THAT ALLOWED THE CONSTRUCTION OF ONE VERY LARGE HOUSE LIKE SEVENTEEN EIGHTEEN THOUSAND SQUARE FEET COULD THAT HAPPEN ON LONG’S. IF MEMORY SERVES I THINK YOU COULD PAY ME MAYBE TO TWO HOUSES ON LONG’S BUT I’M NOT SURE I HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN SO BUT YES THAT’S THAT’S. THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL WILL BE. DO YOU WANT TO PAY MORE TO SAY IT HAS TO ALWAYS BE USED AS AGRICULTURAL LAND WOULD YOU WANT TO PAY LESS TO PREVENT INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT AFTER REZONING. KATE AND I HAVE THAT DISCUSSION TONIGHT NO NO NO NO NO. THE AYE AYE AYE. LET’S NOT DO THAT BUT WHAT CAN YOU DISTILL AS PROCESS BY WHICH WE WOULD NEED IS A GREAT DISCUSSION HOW WE WILL HAVE. MORE LAWYERS KNOW BETTER THAN ME THERE THEIR WORK AND THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW WHICH IS PROVIDING A LITTLE BIT OF ADVICE ON STRUCTURE. GUESS MY QUESTION TO HANG ON LET’S ANSWER THE TIMELY QUESTION OR THE PROCESS QUESTION UM SO PROCESSES.HOPEFULLY TO GET TO DRAFT NUMBERS TRACKED APPRAISAL. UNDERSTAND BASED ON THE CURRENT TERMS OF HOW WE’VE DRAFTED THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT CALM AS IT IS WHICH IS WITH BASICALLY. THE CITY MANAGER CITY ATTORNEY AND AN SOM COUNCIL’S INPUT AS WELL AS CAMI AND PUT THAT DAY. AND THAT’S THE FEEDBACK WE’VE ALWAYS GOTTEN IS THAT THEY WANT TO SEE LONG’S GARDEN REMAIN LIKE LOOKING LIKE. I WAS A SUBSTANCE LIKE CORRECT WHEN WOULD IT BE COACHED TO US SO THAT TOM SUE APPRAISAL SHOULD BE WRAPPING UP HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE FEW WEEKS.IT IS I THINK PRELIMINARY SET TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF A POTENTIAL ACQUISITION SCHEDULE FOR STUDY SESSION IN OCTOBER A NOW. AND WE JUST SORT OF GRABBED THAT DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RESOLVED THIS ISSUE BEFORE THIS COUNCIL WAS COMPLETED. BUT WE DON’T HAVE THE INFORMATION WHEN WE GET IT YOU’LL GET A CONFIDENTIAL MEMO FROM THE LAWYERS OFFICE WITH REGARD TO INFORMATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED AND THEN CAC WILL HELP TOO.WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER TO PUT ON THE BALLOT BEFORE THE DISH AND ASK HIM TO. SOAP AND SO I MY QUESTION IS YOU KNOW WE WEREN’T ANTICIPATING THIS WERE TRYING TO. LOOK AT A TAX FOR OPEN SPACE SO THIS IS ALL THE SUDDEN JUST STUCK ON HERE AND I THOUGHT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GIVE DIRECTION ON OPEN SPACE.WE DEFINITELY GOING TO DO THAT AND THEN I THINK THIS IS THE SECOND QUESTION ABOUT MONKS GARDEN WILL BOTH SEE AND SO THAT’S WHAT THE RANGE IT IS A MERGED IT WITH.IT IS ON OUR WORK PLAN AND WRITE IT IS INTERESTING WHEN. I CAME TONIGHT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE’RE JUST TALKING ABOUT OPEN SPACE AND I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WE. JUST PUT OUT THAT WE ASK FOR POINT ONE FIVE FOR OPEN SPACE ON THIS YEAR’S. SEDAN THAT’S YOU’RE GETTING YOUR OPINION SHOULD BE ONE POINT I JUST WROTE TO. POINT LINK TYPE IA AND I DON’T KNOW IF HP FOR UP TO TEN YEARS OR TWENTY YEARS AND I DON’T KNOW IF YOU’VE DONE THOSE KIND OF NUMBERS. AND I WOULD DEDICATE IT TO OPEN SPACE.THEY ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS WHOLE ANGST THING WHICH IS THROWING A WRENCH INTO. A MARE BY AND THEN HIS CUPPED HAND. UP TO SING AS WE DID OPEN A CAN OF WORMS ON MONKS CAN I JUST ASK AND SAY I DID MEET WITH SOME NUMBERS FROM FROM THERE. IF WE HAVE THAT MEETING IN OCTOBER IS CANCELLED.HOWEVER IT’S VERY SAD.ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY. MAKE THE DECISION THAT MADE THEIR CONCERN IS THAT IT COUNTS WHICH IS OVER AND HAVING TO START THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN SO. CAN WE HAVE IT STRUCTURED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IF WE HAVE THE ANSWERS FROM THE APPRAISER APPRAISAL ON THE EASEMENT THAT WE CAN.THIS COUNCIL CAN MAKE THE DECISION.THE ANSWER TO THAT IS UNSATISFYING.SO I WILL SAY THAT THAT NIGHT THE COUNCIL COULD SAY WE ABSOLUTELY WANT TO ACQUIRE THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT AND I WILL SAY THAT EVENING.WE DON’T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT AND SOUL.THE COUNCIL COULD SAY WELL WE NEED TO TRIGGER TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FIND THE MONEY. AND THEN WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT THAT WILL GO PAST THE TIME OF THIS COUNCIL. AND SO UNLESS WE HAVE THE MONEY THAT WE CAN APPROPRIATE AND A CONTRACT THAT WE CAN SIGN BEFORE NOVEMBER FIFTH.THE NEXT COUNCIL COULD CHANGE THE DIRECTION IT’S ALL BASED ON FUNDING RIGHT NOW AND SO IF THERE’S WAYS THAT DONATIONS COME IN TO HELP FUND THIS.SO WHAT IF THAT SECTION WHICH WAS A HUGE PROBLEM HERE.IF THE FUNDING COULD BE ANSWERED THIS COUNCIL COULD FINISH THE CORRECT YES.THANK YOU OKAYBOB WAS GASSED QUESTION THAT WAS NOT ABOUT LONG’S CAR INTO PRE HAVEN’T ADJUSTED LONG.LET’S GO BACK TO OPEN SPACES THAT IS THE PRIMARY HE. WAS BUT HIS QUESTION THAT DOES IMPACT MY MY INPUT ON. AN OPEN SPACE WHILE UM I KNOW THAT WE DON’T HAVE THE NUMBERS OF THE BILLION BILLION YET AND IT WOULD GET THOSE. DOGS BUT THEY ARE TO BIG NUMBERS ARE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS MORE WE CAN FROM THAT.SOO WE’RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT ON SEPTEMBER TENTH.WE DO HAVE A PLAN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.AND IT’S RELATED TO DOLLARS THAT WE WOULD TAKE FROM OUR FACILITIES AND ASSET MANAGEMENT FUN AND DEDICATED TO. FOR A PERIOD OF HER MANY YEARS IT TOOK TO PAY OFF THE FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS. THAT WE HAVE TO BORROW SO WE HAVE TO ULTIMATELY BORROW MONEY AND THEN WE HAVE A SOURCE THAT WE WOULD USE TO PAY IT OFF. BUT THAT’S A NON TAX SOURCES ARE SAYING IT’S A NON TAX SOURCES. BUT IT WOULD ALSO DEPLETE OUR GENERAL FUND CAPITAL BUDGET THAT WE’VE BEEN TRYING TO BUILD UP FOR SOME OTHER ITEMS. TO GET A BIGGER PICTURE BECAUSE AS WE WEIGH OPEN SPACE TAX VERSUS TAX ROLL THESE OTHER THINGS WHICH I KNOW THEY’RE NOT ALL QUITE RIPE YET.I’M JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS A TWO WEEK INCLUDE IN THE MIX THAT THIS IS POTENTIALLY A TAX WHICH WE JUST FORGET ABOUT IT THEY WILL FIGURE IT OUT.WELL THE WAY THAT WE’RE GOING TO BE PROPOSING IT’S NOT A TAX IT WOULD BE A BALLOT MEASURE TO ASK HER DAD RE WRITE AND AND THEN. ANOTHER THING TO PUT IN YOUR HEAD JUST THERE’S LOT OF JUGGLING BALLS IS THAT IN A COUPLE YEARS THE POINTS RIO. COMMUNITY CULTURE AND SAFETY TAX WHICH IS FOCUSED ON CAPITAL IS GOING TO GO AWAY AND COUNCIL COULD MAKE A DECISION AT THAT TIME. THAT WE SHOULD ASK THE VOTERS TO RE UP THAT AND USE IT FOR GENERAL FUND CAPITAL WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE TAKING THE MONEY FROM TO DO THE PAVILION BUT. WE STILL HAVE THREE OF TRANSPORTATION LIBRARY EVERYTHING YOU SAW EVERYTHING ELSE IS STILL ON THE TABLE FOR MODA.WE DON’T HAVE MONEY FREE THOSE THINGS AND THOSE WOULD ALL INVOLVE INCREMENTAL TAX.YEAH THEY COULD WELL INVOLVE INCREMENTAL CUTS WILL BE A GUESS RIGHT.I DON’T KNOW WHERE WE CAN GIVEN THE LIST WAS GREAT.SOO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT THIS VERY HELPFUL.WE WERE GONE FOR THE OPEN SPACE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS WE’RE NOT QUITE DONE BUT WE’VE GOT A LOT ALONG WITH HER AND SO WE’VE SEEN. SOME OF THESE ADDITIONAL NEEDS IN THE OPEN SPACE DEPARTMENT SAID I SUPPORT HAVING AN INCREMENTAL INCREASE THAT TAX. THAT ROLE FOR MAINTENANCE KNEES. ET-CETERA AND PLUS WE POLLED ON THIS IN OUR SURVEY AND WE FOUND OVER NINETY PERCENT SUPPORT FROM OUR COMMUNITY FOR SOME FORM OF OPEN SPACE TAX. BUT WE’RE WE’RE ALSO SEEING IN REALLY LARGE OTHER CAPITAL NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND I’M NOT REALLY. MANY DIFFERENT KINDS INCLUDING SOME THAT ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY THINGS LIKE OUR. VISIONS YOUR EFFORTS IN TRANSPORTATION AND FIRE AND POLICE ISSUES. I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE GO FOR POINT ONE FIVE PERCENT SALES TAX TO THAT WOULD REPLACE THE ONE THAT’S EXPIRING AND TO KEEP OUR SALES TAX.EVEN OUR OVERALL RATE EVEN. DEVOTE POINT ONE PERCENT OF IT TO OPEN SPACE AND GIVE US AN INCREMENTAL POINT FIVE PERCENT TO THE GENERAL FUND TO SUPPORT ALL OF THE VARIOUS OTHER NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY. THAT’S UP FOR A WHILE YET A THIRD OPINION.UM MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO WHERE IT’S JUST WHAT TO. WHAT LISA SUGGESTED BUT I’M CONCERNED ABOUT IT I MEAN I JUST FEEL A LITTLE DISCONNECTED BECAUSE WE’VE GOT TO MEET AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION OF LIBRARY POLICE AND FIRE AS AARON SAID.SO MOST OF ALL HEALTH AND SAFETY SO YOU KNOW MOI OPEN SPACE IS GREAT AND GOOD AND IMPORTANT IN WHAT DEFINES COMMUNITY.WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES AND I FEEL LIKE IF WE DIDN’T OPEN SPACE TAX THIS YEAR. WE MAYBE SHOULD IGNORE WAD WE MAY BE FINDING THAT WE’RE GETTING OUR. COMMUNITY’S TAX CAPACITY THAT WE DON’T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. AND SO THE CONCERN ABOUT DOING SOMETHING THIS YEAR WHETHER IT’S. LISA’S PROPOSAL OR ERIN’S PROPOSAL AND THEN WAKING UP NEXT YEAR AND SAYING GOSH IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD A TAX FOR TRANSPORTATION OF A LIBRARY OR FOR. HOUSING US OR THESE OTHER NEEDS AND WE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH HEADROOM.MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO DEFER. THE QUESTION OPEN SPACE TAX UNTIL NEXT YEAR WE’LL HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE HOLISTIC DISCUSSION ABOUT ALL THESE KNEES. RATHER THAN DOING THIS PIECEMEAL BECAUSE THEY DO THIS PIECEMEAL AT SOME POINT I’M GOING TO RUN OUT OF HEADROOM AND WE MAY REGRET. MAYBE MAYBE BOARDS FOR COPS THAT WE CAN BUY OR SOMETHING THAT’S REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT.I’M MAKING A POINT BUT MY POINT IS THAT RATHER THAN PICKING ONE THING NOW BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO BE IN FRONT OF US. AND FOR ALL THE STOPS IT WILL TAKE CARE OF LATER THINK WE SHOULD TAKE EVERYTHING AT ONCE AND SET OUR PRIORITIES. RATHER THAN JUST PICKING THIS BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO BE THE MOST WELL FORMED NUMBER TWO WITH A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM A JUMP IN AND THAT IS A SHOE A CAM.WE ARE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THING WE ACTUALLY SAID DON’T GO THIS YEAR GO NEXT YEAR SO WE CREATED THAT WE’VE BEEN HAVING LONG DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A STATEWIDE CONVERSATION IT’S A REGIONAL CONVERSATION AND THEN IT’S ALSO BOWLED A CONVERSATION AND I. THINK WE’RE MOVING TOWARD TRANSPORTATION MAINTENANCE FEE BUT THAT’S NOT RIGHT THIS YEAR SO I THINK MY SENSES WERE GOING TO DISCUSS SALES NEXT YEAR AND THAT’S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF BANDWIDTH.WE KNOW THEY’RE COMING TO TALK ABOUT A FUN TIME.I THINK THE LIBRARY DISTRICT OR NOT IS ANOTHER ARE ANOTHER BIG DISCUSSION WE DECLINE TO DO THAT THIS YEAR. THAT’S HAPPENING NEXT YEAR SO I THINK THERE’S A FULL PLATE NEXT YEAR AND NONE OF IT SETS A PRICE OR TINA I DO FEEL LIKE. WE JUST WENT TO THIS BIG OPEN SPACE MASTER PLAN PROCESS WHEN OWNERS WILL NEED TO KNOW IT’S A PRIORITY AND I SEE. HIM IN THE WE NEED TO INCREASE OUR FUNDING ON. FOR OPEN SPACE WE KNOW WE NEED TO. KNOW WE NEED TO AND IT IS A PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND HE COMES BACK IN MANY WAYS. IN TERMS OF QUALITY OF LIFE FOR US FOR PEOPLE THAT VISIT US FOR PEOPLE THAT COME HERE AND SPEND MONEY WE KNOW THAT AND COME TO AN IMPORTANT ASSET.SO I GUESS I WOULD BOTH WENT ONE FOR OPEN SPACE AND I WOULD GO AHEAD WITH THE POINT FIRE THINK THERE’S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR CONTINUING AT THAT RATE.UM I I THINK ACQUIRING LONG’S GARDEN IS A PRIORITY AND OPEN LOWER NUMBER OF THE HONEST. AND GIVE OURSELVES A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY LATE PUTTING IT IN GENERAL FUND OPERATING BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE’S SOME OTHER NEEDS THERE THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIKE.I’M DEPENDING ON HOW LONG THIS GOES FOR IT IF HE CAN BE IN PLACE FOR THAT.I GUESS THAT’S WHY I’M HEADED NOW THINK IT’S SHINY OBJECT I THINK IT’S MORE AFTER THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO DO THIS YEAR AND WE KNOW WE’VE GOT SOME DISCUSSIONS FOR NEXT YEAR. ARTIE TINA THAT’S WHEN WE WENT UP BEFORE WE GO AROUND AGAIN. MARION AND WAS STAMPED ON THE SAME AREA IN THE LEASE. WELL I MEAN I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH HERE ABOUT THE NEEDS THAT ARE DEVELOPING AN OPEN SPACE IMAGE PRETTY CLEAR THAT INCREASED VISITATION. HAS CREATED THINGS LIKE THE MESA TRAIL BEING ANTI WHITE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE YOU KNOW I AM GETTING WORSE AND ON THE WRONG DIRECTION.WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING FOR OPEN SPACE I MEAN IT JUST HAD A DECREASE OF POINT ONE ONE. POINT ONE FIVE AND IT’S FACING A DECREASE OF POINT ONE TWO IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE AND SO WE’RE TALKING ABOUT A SERIOUS AMOUNT OF CHANGE NOW.INDEED OPEN SPACE DEPARTMENT WAS COMING IT WAS ALL TALKED ABOUT A MILE I ANTICIPATED. BUT I DON’T DARE OR BET THE LEVEL OF VISITATION INCREASE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATED BOTH. POWER AND THEN THAT’S ON TOP OF THE FLOODGATES TO WRITE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT THIRTY FIVE PERCENT INCREASE. WAS TO FLOOD WHICH WE GOT SOME REIMBURSEMENT FOR BUT NOT ALL. AND WE HAD TO PAY QUITE A BIT OUT OF OPEN SPACE FUNDING TO REPAIR DAMAGE DONE BY THIS LAW ON OPEN SPACE. IS ALSO SEEN THE REPORT OF THE BACKLOG WE KNOW VERY WELL CAUSE WE’VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLAN. BUT I COULDN’T SUPPORT LESS THAN ONE I WOULD PROBABLY PREFER IT BE POINT ONE FIVE I DO APPRECIATE THE CONCERN WITH THE HEADROOM. AND I DO APPRECIATE US NEEDING TO THINK AHEAD ABOUT SOME OF THE BIG PROJECTS THAT WE’VE PUT ON OUR PLATE ON ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ARE BALSAM BOB JUST COMING BACK TO SUBJECT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP IS SHOULD WE BE SELLING OFF SOME PORTION OF THAT FOR MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT.WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE TO US. IT WOULD JUST BE GOOD TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT NUMBER IN OUR HEAD RATTLING AROUND WITH ALL THE OTHER BIG SCARY NUMBERS SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT BITE AT POLLARD. THERE WILL BE SOME INCOME THAT THE CITY. WILL HAVE TO DONATE LAND FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT WHATEVER MIGHT BE MARKET RATE IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WILL GET PAID BACK. AT SOME POINT WOULD BE SOMETHING ELSE I WOULD ASK SO I WILL CLOSE HERE AND SAY THE LOWER SEC YEARS APART ONE AND I WOULD PROBABLY PREFER POINT ONE FIVE FOR OPEN SPACE.WE APPRECIATE THAT CONCERN FOR OPEN SPACE BUT UM. WE JUST SAW THIS LIST OF ALL OF THESE NEEDS WE HAVE. AND YOU KNOW THERE ARE EQUIVALENTS OF WIDE MESA TRAILS IN ALL OF THESE OTHER CATEGORIES AND SO THE QUESTION IS IS WHERE DO WE WANT TO PUT THAT EFFORT.SO THAT’S THAT’S ONE THING IS ALL OF THOSE UNFUNDED NEEDS THAT WE HAVE THAT REALLY NEED ATTENTION TOO.UM WELL SO ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT PATH AND THEN UM THE OTHER THING IS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING TAX.I FEAR THAT WE IF WE GO WITH OPEN SPACE.THE THING THAT WE ALL TALK ABOUT THAT WE NEED MORE OF HOW CONSTANTLY I MEAN WE JUST SPENT AN HOUR AND HALF TALKING ABOUT HOME A MIDDLE INCOME. ASSISTANCE PROGRAM HAVING TO DO WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE WANT TO PUT THIS TAX WHICH IS LIKELY CAN TO SABOTAGE ANY CHANCE OF HAVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TEXT SO I DON’T THINK I CAN SUPPORT.I MEAN I LOVE BOTH OPEN SPACE AND I I APPRECIATE WHAT WE’VE JUST GONE THROUGH ON THE MASTER PLAN BUT UM YEAH HIKE RIGHT I CAN ALSO COUNT OH MOM. IT’S OKAY LET’S KEEP GOING AROUND.NEXT I THINK ERM SUZANNE YOU SAID IT VERY WELL AND I THINK. WE HAVE DECREASED THE OPEN SPACE AND WE DIDN’T INTEND. OR WE WERE AWARE OF THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH AND I THINK IN VISITATION AND I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN. WHAT WE’VE BOUGHT AND WHICH IF I AM FISHING FOR THE OPEN SPACE TAX.I THINK IN TERMS OF LIST LAUNDRY LIST. OF SETS HERE FOR OVER TWENTY HOMERS TWENTY FOUR YEARS AND THE LAUNDRY LISTS CAN ALWAYS COME OUT EVERY YEAR AND I CAN SAY EVERY YEAR THE BUDGET NEEDS ARE. MORE THAN WHAT WE CAN ALWAYS DO SO I TINK.SAM SAID BARRY WELL AH SO THAT WE HAVE IT BURIED LINED UP IN TERMS OF OREGON SUZANNE OF WHERE. WHAT FENCE OR CAN IT GO WHERE AND WHAT TAXES ARE INTO THIS UPDATED PLAN AND SO I THINK YOU KNOW AND BRINGING OUT A LAUNDRY LIST.THIS YEAR’S THE SAME AS LAST YEAR’S THE SAME AS PREVIOUS YEARS AND IT’S NOT HELPFUL. IT’S GOOD TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE NEED TO FILL BUT I THINK WE JUST KEEP IT AND UM. AND UH WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OPEN SPACE I THINK THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TAX THAT OF REGION REGIONAL TAX AND WE’LL SEE HOW THAT GOES IT SEEMS THAT. WE’VE BEEN DOING HOUSING IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY THAN WE’VE BEEN. DOING OPEN SPACE AND SO WE EXACT AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS ARE FEASTS OUT OF DEVELOPMENT AND THAT THAT WOULD GENERALLY DONE SO AND WE. ALL SUPPORT THOUGH POINT ONE FIVE AM FOR OPEN SPACE AND I’M DOING IT BECAUSE I THINK. WE JUST DECLARED A CRIME EMERGENCY TODAY AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS IS A THIRTY THOUSAND FOOT PICTURE.THIS IS OUR OVERARCHING MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR A THINKING ENEMY IS TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT AND TO PROTECT THE OPEN SPACE AND THE ECOSYSTEM TO SURVIVE AROUND US.I UNDERSTAND WHAT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AGAIN THAT TO ME PERSONALLY IS MORE MICRO LEVEL. AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AS HUMANITY AND SO TO CARE FOR WHAT WE HAVE AN AS GAME BURKE STATED ONE POINT WHICH I THOUGHT WAS INCREDIBLY. I DON’T KNOW IS IT JUST REALLY STRUCK ME FROM. THE ACQUISITIONS THAT STILL REMAIN ARE SMALL PIECES OF THE PUZZLE AND HE SAYS INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT IS AN ACQUISITION IT’S ABOUT CARING FOR AS WHOLE. AND SO BY ATTACHING A SMALL LITTLE PUZZLE PIECES.IT’S REALLY CARING FOR AND CONNECTING TO THE ONES THAT WE NEED TO REALLY REVITALIZE THE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM THERE SO. I JUST AGAIN SEEING AS WE’VE MADE CLIMATE SUCH A HUGE THING RECENTLY AND BECAUSE OF OUR. LIVING HERE AND WHAT WE’RE DOING OUR EARTH I THINK THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN AND WHAT WE’VE INVESTED IN FOR SO LONG.WELL I WAS REALLY ENCOURAGED WHEN DAN SPOKE. TO US THE LAST TIME WE WERE DISCUSSING BALLOT ISSUES OR NEEDS. AND HE TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY’VE BEEN PREPARING FOR THIS AND HOW THEY LIVED STARTED CUTTING THINGS BACK INCLUDING THEIR CAPITAL NEEDS SUCH AS FOR A NEW CAMPUS. WHICH DOES NOT SEEM LIKE AND NEED SO MUCH AS THEY WANT IN TERMS OF WHICH IS NOW OFF THE TABLE FOR OPEN SPACE DOLLARS AND I’M. NEVERTHELESS I THINK GIVEN THE INFORMATION IN THERE STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEY THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT FOR OPEN SPACE.I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THAT ONE PERCENT AND I REALLY AM REMINDED OF BOULDER’S FIRST PENNY OF TAX. I’M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT TRANSPORTATION WITHIN THE CITY AND OUR COMMITMENT TO. VISION ZERO ZERO VISION WHICH EVER SAFE STREETS AND I’M. PUTTING SOME RESOURCES INTO WHAT REALLY ARE TO TEAR ANYONE WHO IS AROUND THE CITY KNOWS THAT WE HAVE DETERIORATING ROADWAYS AND SAFE PLACES. FOR ALL KINDS OF VEHICLES AND I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THAT EXTRA POINT FIVE GOING TO NOT POINT FIVE BUT IT’S ONE AND ONE POINT FIVE GOING TO TRANSPORTATION. NEEDS BUT SO THAT’S JUST ANOTHER DAY TO COMMENT ON MY PART BUT I WOULD GO BASICALLY WITH THE ONE PERCENT FOR OPEN SPACE.I WORRY ABOUT MONEY IS GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND I ALSO WORRY ABOUT AS LISA WAS TALKING ABOUT A LAUNDRY LIST. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NEEDS AND WANTS. AND I SEE A LOT OF ONCE IN SEVEN OF THE AREA’S MASTER PLANS THAT WE’VE BEEN SEEING. AND WE CAN’T BE EVERYTHING TO EVERYONE WHICH IT SEEMS SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE IN TERMS OF A LOT OF OUR NECESSARY SERVICES LIKE FIRE AND POLICE.THE REASON THOSE ARE HAVE THIS NEED IS BECAUSE OF GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY. AND IT’S JUST GOING TO GET WORSE AND THERE’S PROBABLY GOING TO BE MORE GOING THERE AND LESS GOING TO THE AMENITIES THAT WE IN THE FUTURE PREDICTION BY CASSANDRA. SO THIS KIND WHERE I AM ON THIS ALL WE GET QUITE THE SPREAD.SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. AND IPOD AS I WALK TO YOUR SKILLET POINT ONE FIVE JUST FOR OPEN SPACE POINT ONE FIVE. OPEN SPACE POINT ONE FILE OPENS A LITTLE BIT ON THE COLLEGIATE TWO ZEROS THAT POINT TO POINT ONE’S PLUS. GENERAL AT PAINTING AND YOUR POINT ONE BUT NOPE POINT OH FIVE FOR GENERAL OPERATING EACH OTHER FOR GENERAL OPERATING BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR TRANSPORTATION AND VISION ZERO NEEDS. SO WE WOULDN’T HAVE OF H A HEARING ON BALLOT MEASURES COMING UP. HELP ME AGAIN WHEN IS A GOOD. FIRST READING WHAT THAT RATE IS AUGUST SIX I CAN READ AND CAUSES SAID TWENTY OF TWENTY YARDS TWENTY F RIGHT IT’LL BE ON RIGHT DURING OPEN COMMENT ON AUGUST SIX.YEAH THAT’S RIGHT THEY’RE STILL AN OPEN COMMENT PERIOD OK BECAUSE WE’RE STARTING LATE BECAUSE OF NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. AT HER WITH LOTS OF THEIR INPUT IS AUGUST TWENTIETH AND SEVEN BUT EVEN LET US KNOW IN BETWEEN. GUESTS AND CAN WE NARROW THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR OURSELVES WE HAVE. TALKED ABOUT IS PUTTING ON THE BALLOT BUT LOW DOES GOOD CHANCE I GUESS OF PASSAGE WE PUT ON BALLOTS WE SHOULD BE AWARE THAT WE HAVE ONE TWO THREE. SIX OF US THAT WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON FOR OPEN SPACE AND THE AMOUNT AND WHETHER WE HAVE SOME MORE FOR ANOTHER THING IS LESS CLEAR.I WAS DISMAYED THAT I WANTED I HADN’T QUITE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE RANKING WAS SIX SIX OF US ARE.YES WANT TO PUT SOMETHING UP FOR A TASTE SO HOW ABOUT. POINT ONE TWO FOR OPEN SPACE AND TWENTY THREE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE WILL SEE YOUR POINT ONE TWO AND SEVEN. THE CHANGING THE NUMBERS HERE IS EASY RIGHT IT’S NOT LIKE WE HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT AHEAD OF AUGUST TWENTY THREE. NO WE WE DO IS PUT TOGETHER THREE BALLOT MEASURES. AND INTRODUCE THEM ALL ON FIRST READING. AND YOU WOULD HAVE A HEARING AND DECIDE WHICH ONE TO PASS. IN THAT WE CAN GET INPUT THROUGH EMAILS AT A TIME AND THAT THE HEARING AND THOSE THREE YEARS. THAT’S A MANAGEABLE NUMBER RIGHT TO DO IT SO WE CAN UM CAN YOU JUST SPECIFY WHICH YOU THINK THE THREE ARE WELL SO I WOULD SAY THAT THE ZERO WOLF.MAYBE FOR THE VERY SOON SO. I CAN TELL YOU THE THREE I’VE GOT YET BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE TO DO SO POINT ONE FIVE FOR ALL FOR OPEN SPACE JUST RE POINT ONE FIVE NOTHING ELSE. POINT ONE NO FOR OPEN SPACE IN POINT ZERO FOUR FIVE FOR GENERAL FUND TEN POINT ONE FOR OPEN SPACE POINT ZERO FIVE FOR TRANSPORTATION.THOSE ARE THE THREE WICKETS WHILE I ALMOST SLUGGED TWENTY FIVE FOR TRANSPORTATION MAKING THAT CLEAR SO. YOU DON’T DECIDE ANYTHING TONIGHT BECAUSE SELECTION AND WILL CARRY ALL THREE FORWARD AND YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECISION A FEW MORE INPUT.I JUST WANT A HOUSE ABOUT TEN FISH BECAUSE I DO THINK IT’S HUGE NEED. IT’S BIGGER THAN THAT AND MAYBE WHETHER WE STEAL OUR OWN FIRE IF WE WANTED TO OR TRANSPORTATION MAINTENANCE FEE RIGHT.THAT’S THE ONE THING ABOUT GOING A LITTLE BIT THERE DOESN’T GET US WHERE WE HAVE TO GO AND YET SORRY WOULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN FOR SOME REASON I’M TOTALLY OF THE TRANSPORTATION MAINTENANCE FEE.WHAT IS THAT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED THE COUPLE MONTHS AGO AND IT IS THE IDEA OF APPLYING OF CHARGING A FEE BASED EITHER ON SQUARE FOOTAGE OR FRONT EACH.YOU KNOW WHAT THE NINE ZERO WITH A HEADACHE.THIS WAS THE DAY A MILLION CUTS DISCUSSION BUT I DO REMEMBER THIS NOW I MEAN AT LEAST. IT IS AVAILABLE SEVEN WOMEN ONLY AND I THINK IN TWO THOUSAND AND NINETEEN JANE REFRESH MY MEMORY IN TWO THOUSAND AND NINETEEN. POINT ONE FIVE THAT IS NOW GOING TO OPEN SPACE IS GOING TO RUN FOR AND GO INTO TRANSPORTATION IS SET CORRECTLY.YES THAT’S RIGHT SO TRANSPORTATION IS GETTING AND THAT’S JUST BACK FILLING. SNACKS IT’S NOT MY MONEY FOR DISCRETION BECAUSE HE HAD A TEMPORARY HAPPY ABIT OF TEMPORARY TAX AND TWENTY THIRTEEN. TO GET THEM TO TWENTY NINE NINETEEN A M AND GUESS WHO IS WITH TRANSLATIONS GETTING NO EXTRA BRIGHT.BUT THERE HAS BEEN TEN YEARS JUST FOR THE PERIOD ON THAT POINT ONE TWO ADDITIONAL COMES FROM OPEN SPACE WINDOWS INTO THE GENERAL FUND TRANSPORTATION.YEP SO IT’S IN OUR OPEN SPACE WILL SING ITS LARGE POINT THREE THREE CUT BACK TWICE BY TWENTY TWENTY NINE.SO ONE THING WE HAVEN’T TALKED ABOUT IS THE LENGTH OF TIME FOR THE NEXT AND SO I DON’T END. TOMMY AT FOR ANY THREE OPTIONS HE WAS THERE ANYTHING PRESUMED IN THIS. TEN OR TWENTY FIFTEEN SOUL WHEN I CUT THE THREE SCENARIOS WE PAY THAT TEN YEARS DISCS THAT SPANS THE LENGTH OF THE MASTER PLAN BUT AGAIN IT COULD BE ANY. SUCH WAY AND IT IS EASY TO MULTIPLY THAT AXEL IS USUALLY WITH AN TWENTY YEAR INCREMENTS SO I THINK WE’VE SEEN A LOT OVER THE YEARS. OKAY I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT. IF WE CAPTURED THE THREE WE WANT TO SEE AND WE THINK THEY ARE ALL VIABLE CAUSE IT’S THIS. ONE MAKE SURE THAT THEY’RE ALL IN PLAY OF THE WAYS WE HAVE EVERYBODY WEIGH IN AND THEN OR NOT THE INTENTION OF CHOOSING ONE.IT’S WORTH NOTING BUT DOES OST THREE FIORE AND END WITH THEIR FEET ON THE SHOW AIRING ON YOUR OPTION OF TWENTY ONE AND END POINT FIVE FOR GENERAL IT’S NOT WORSE. YOU WOULDN’T RESTRICT HOW THAT WOULD BE YOU SAID THAT HE BE USED FOR. THAT POINT NO FIGHT COULD BE USED FOR LIBRARY COULD BE USED FOR ACTS IT WOULD BE UNRESTRICTED RIGHT YEAH YEAH. AND I AND I SAID THE VETERANS FISH BUT I DO FEEL LIKE UNRESTRICTED WOULD BE. OKAY SINCE I WAS IN THAT I THINK WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT WE WANTED TO GO ALONG SO PARDON IF WE INTEND TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT I WOULD. I WOULD SPECIFY THAT AS INCLUDING THEM AS ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WOULD FINE FALL UNDER IT FEATURES IF WE TAKE FOR THAT ONE UP FOR THAT OPTION. AND ME SATAN WANT TO POINT OUT POTENTIAL YOU’LL SEE MORE OF PEOPLE SICK STAY AT THE TIME QUESTION. FUND SERVICES SUCH AS LIBRARIES FIRE POLICE PARKS RECREATION WE DO MAKE A MAN PAST INSTANCES FAIRLY BROAD IF IT DOES GO TO GENERAL FUND PURPOSES. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE OPTION YOU CAN LOOK. RIGHT BUT THE A I THINK WHAT I’M SAYING MY OPTION IT WOULD BE GENERAL OPERATING SORRY GENERAL FUND CAPITAL INCLUDING AGAIN IF WE DECIDE I THINK WE WANT TO NAME IT. LONG SCORED IF WE WANNA GO THERE.I THINK IT’S WORTH NAMING A PREMIER PROJECT. THAT’S WHAT IT WOULD GO TO WRITE IN I WOULD INCLUDE I WOULDN’T INCLUDE THE LAUNDRY JUST I WOULDN’T BE SPECIFIC BECAUSE WE HAVE SPECIFIC NEEDS. IN TWENTY TWENTY ONE SIDE INCLUDE LIBRARY IN THERE AND I DON’T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS. OK THAT’S HOW WE SAY THAT FOR THE WEEK AND MAKE FINAL DETERMINATION I SUPPORT THOSE WHO FOUND DETERMINATION AT THAT OBVIOUS BUT I DO THINK WOULD WE.IF NOTHING ELSE AND I DON’T WANT THIS PRESUPPOSES ANYTHING BUT I GUESS IF WE THINK WE MAY GO THERE THEN WE MIGHT HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT LONG SCORED AND SOONER THAN OCTOBER.I’M JUST GOING TO FALL AT THERE SO THAT THE SINGER. OR WRITE WELL THAN TO GET IT AREN’T THE APPRAISALS WHEN ARE THOSE TWO AM WE WERE TOLD LIKE A COUPLE WEEKS OR. IN THE INTEREST OF HOPE THEY’RE. OK SO WHAT IF PEOPLE PROCESS WAS NODDING THAT WE WOULD LEAST ONE OF THEM SOMEHOW TO HAVE A MORE THOROUGH DISCUSSION IN MORE TIME THE ISLAND KNOW THE PARAMETERS.OK AND WE’LL LET THE BOYS FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY CAN TELL THIS PUBLICLY AND WHAT NOT.HEY I BET HOW LONG TEN YEARS.SORRY SORRY TONY KAYE.YOU DO FIRST AND SECOND READING THE WORK I’M AT STAKE IS GETTING ESTIMATES THAT OVER FIFTY SO WE DON’T HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS LEFT. SO I COULD DO SIX VERSIONS THE DC TEN AND TWENTY.IT’S NOT JUST TYPE AND TWENTY FOR EACH VERSION I WOULDN’T WANT TO DECIDE THAT RIGHT NOW I’M OFF TO. YOU AS YOU CAN ALWAYS PASS ON EMERGENCY AT THE END WITH A CHANGE SO IT’S NOT LIKE IT’S THE END OF THE WORLD IF YOU. DON’T LIKE TO HAVE THE OPTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU SO YOU CAN JUST TELL US TO GO FORWARD WITH HIS EAR.THUS THE COUNT SO I THOUGHT WE DID GOOD PROCESS IN FIJI.

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